Kyle Rittenhouse, previous owner of a Smith & Wesson M&P15

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LM K wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:12 am :snippity:
Rittenhouse isn't doing well.
I thought he seemed weirdly unaffected during the trial. The first sign that he was even remotely concerned was when he was watching the drone video that shows him provoking the crowd. But reality seemed to hit him hard during the state's closing argument. He was seriously affected by the narrative that actually matches video evidence. His defense team also seems to have all the sudden had reality hit them as hard during the state's closing argument. So much so, I think it seriously threw their own closing off.

Two full days of deliberations seems quite a bit given how strong we now know the evidence to be. The longer the jury is out, the better it may be for him. But he's definitely scared since the day of closing arguments.
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Does anyone know the actual number of hours the jury has been deliberating?
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I think it has been 16 hours so far.
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Maybe a hung jury - and a retrial before a different judge - is a good outcome here. :confuzzled:
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Foggy wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:50 am Maybe a hung jury - and a retrial before a different judge - is a good outcome here. :confuzzled:
If a mistrial would the judge have to opportunity to declare the charges dismissed with prejudice based on the defences claims above?
(Before the matter could be put in front of a different justice)
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Oh, great question, Dave! I would like to know the answer to that, too.

I would think that as long as the judge allowed it to go the jury that he has lost the opportunity to declare a mistrial, but I sure as heck don't know that. I'm pulling that out of my "common sense" bag, which may not apply when it comes to the law.
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RVInit wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:22 am Oh, great question, Dave! I would like to know the answer to that, too.

I would think that as long as the judge allowed it to go the jury that he has lost the opportunity to declare a mistrial, but I sure as heck don't know that. I'm pulling that out of my "common sense" bag, which may not apply when it comes to the law.
Standard disclaimer and all that, but I don’t think that’s necessarily true. He has a motion currently pending before him. as long as he still has jurisdiction over the case, I think he can rule on it anytime, potentially even after the verdict, depending on what the verdict is. Rittenhouse is acquitted of all charges, I don’t think the judge can declare a mistrial. But if Rittenhouse is convicted on some or all of the charges, I think the judge probably can declare a mistrial while the case is still before him. But again, I don’t know about Wisconsin
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Oh my.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Allegations.
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filly wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:59 pmAllegations.
I read an article where the police said that the MSNBC producer admitted to them that his superiors told him to follow the jury bus. Don’t know if it’s true; that’s what the article said.
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That is bad. Liberals cannot get away with anything and should already know this is going to cause problems . IOOKIYAR. Only.
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Volkonski wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:07 pm
Who let Darren huff near the courthouse?
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RVInit wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:09 pm That is bad. Liberals cannot get away with anything and should already know this is going to cause problems . IOOKIYAR. Only.
Jeez, that was stupid.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... al-intern/
Kyle Rittenhouse, who could face a lifelong prison sentence if he’s found guilty of homicide after fatally shooting two people during last summer’s protests, might have a job offer from a Republican in Congress if he’s acquitted.

Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida said his office may ask Rittenhouse, 18, to consider working on Capitol Hill.

“Kyle Rittenhouse would probably make a pretty good congressional intern,” Gaetz said during a Wednesday night appearance on Newsmax. “We may reach out to him and see if he’d be interested in helping the country in additional ways.”
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Rittenhouse possesses the perfect combination of immaturity and poor judgment, so yeah Republican congressional intern sounds about right
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If life were a TV show, Rittenhouse going to work for Gaetz would make for a fantastic train wreak of a season.

Though I suspect that if Rittenhouse is indeed acquitted, Gaetz will quietly forget his offer since the appearance of support is beneficial but I can not imagine he would make a good staffer.
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While Nelson is away…
Kyle could play that part..
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If you want to see the notes from the jury, Chicago Tribune's got 'em all at the referenced article:

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andersweinstein wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:45 pm If you want to see the notes from the jury, Chicago Tribune's got 'em all at the referenced article:
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Also some expert advice:

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He's wearing black so he'll immediately be labeled Antifa.

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