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A lot of trouble and change just so that dingbats stop getting strung up for LIKE-ing offensive content.
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and Elmo has blocked and 'zero'd' out apples posts.
castigat ridendo mores.
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So Musk's stated reason for hiding who likes what is, essentially, anonymous speech. (Translation: So people can upvote edgelord trash without repercussions.)
But this article suggests a more base motivation: So data scrapers can't learn how much of the site's engagements are just 'bots.
But this article suggests a more base motivation: So data scrapers can't learn how much of the site's engagements are just 'bots.
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Wasn't he all about transparency on the bot issue when he was looking to buy the site to begin with? It's like he's never sincere about anything. How could we have not seen this before?bob wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:55 pm So Musk's stated reason for hiding who likes what is, essentially, anonymous speech. (Translation: So people can upvote edgelord trash without repercussions.)
But this article suggests a more base motivation: So data scrapers can't learn how much of the site's engagements are just 'bots.
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But the sunshine aye shall light the sky,
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
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A few (bad, NSFW) words on the state of Twitter.
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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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Interesting you posted that. The last post I read before this one had a tweet that I clicked through to see and then made the mistake of actually reading a few of the comments on that tweet. Not too many down the scroll was the meme with a photo of Pres Biden that says "Sorry Jack, I have to do what Obama tells me to, or he'll make me suck Michelle's dick again." So yeah, they can hit the 'like' all they want and not be called on it and still be a raging inflamed asshole. Also, the meme was posted by a guy who claims to be a single dad raising a daughter "in the middle of America." Unfortunately, I clicked on his profile out of morbid curiosity to see how low he could go, and wasn't disappointed. His very first post at the top of his feed is asking people to help him get his stats back up because they suffered while he spent some time-out in jail. I pity his daughter and fervently hope she doesn't become another Loomer, but I have my doubts if she'll be able to escape it.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:55 pm A few (bad, NSFW) words on the state of Twitter.► Show Spoiler► Show Spoiler
Of course, it's my fault because I broke the cardinal rule of internetiquette and actually read the comments. My bad.
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Imagine that. The trolls are crawling out of the woodwork.
Elon Musk @elonmusk wrote: Massive increase in likes after they were made private!
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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Because when Musky like most right-libertarians talk about the free marketplace of ideas, he doesn't mean the 'free and INFORMED marketplace', he means the black-box free marketplace. The one where you don't get to see how it's all made and your choices are to eat the shit or walk away.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:31 pm Imagine that. The trolls are crawling out of the woodwork.
Elon Musk @elonmusk wrote: Massive increase in likes after they were made private!
But the sunshine aye shall light the sky,
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
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I check the DJT stock price most days.
After its debut in late March it rose quickly from the mid 30s to a high of about 66, then slid just as quickly, bottoming out at about 22 in mid April. Then it bounced back into the 50s for most of May.
So about two weeks ago it started to slide. Just a few points a day, but by early June it was in the 40, and has been descending to the 30s this past week.
Today it closed at 31, then dropped a quick 8 pts in after hours trading. Back up to 27.
I enjoy this. Small blessings.
After its debut in late March it rose quickly from the mid 30s to a high of about 66, then slid just as quickly, bottoming out at about 22 in mid April. Then it bounced back into the 50s for most of May.
So about two weeks ago it started to slide. Just a few points a day, but by early June it was in the 40, and has been descending to the 30s this past week.
Today it closed at 31, then dropped a quick 8 pts in after hours trading. Back up to 27.
I enjoy this. Small blessings.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntobey/ ... rong-time/
In about two weeks, Trump Media has fallen over 35%. That drop has lit up negative issues. Furthermore, the third quarter's three critical challenges are coming.
The March peak of $80 is history. After the large decline and partial rebound, all three $50 breakout attempts failed, leading to the current price decline. Each technical breakdown opened up a move to lower prices. Add up the technical negatives and the picture darkens...
Three critical issues are coming, and only a strong, widespread, positive action plan by Trump Media can prevent further weakness.
The first issue is near: The registration of all outstanding shares not yet registered. The amount is three times the currently registered shares: 133 million vs. 44 million, equaling a total of 177 million.
The SEC review is at work, and Trump Media just filed amendment #3 to the original, April 15 S-1 submission. Importantly, when the SEC gives final approval, it will not mean all the shares could be sold. Most of the newly registered shares are restricted by lock-up provisions, meaning they will not be salable until September 25 (six months following the March 25 merger date). All shareholders being free to sell is the third issue in the quarter.
And that takes us back to the number two issue: The August earnings release covering Trump Media's second quarter through June 30. For the first quarter, the company simply issued a press release and the SEC 10-Q report. That approach for the second quarter would be dangerously inadequate with September's 133 million newly registered shares suddenly becoming salable by a variety of shareholders, many of whom received the shares in lieu of cash. Likely they will want to sell, particularly if management doesn’t explain the benefits of staying invested.
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X Re-Joins Pro-Censorship Advertisers’ Alliance
Didi Rankovic
July 2, 2024
Given how X has gone out of its way to reveal the depth and breadth of online censorship via the Twitter Files, this makes for an awkward reunion: the company has decided to rejoin the Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM).
It’s a pro-censorship, World Economic Forum-affiliated advertisers’ group, that achieves its objectives through the “brand safety” route (i.e., the censorship “brand” here would be demonetization). And last summer, it was scrutinized by the US Congress.
GARM is one of those outfits whose roots are very entangled (comes in handy when somebody tries to probe your activities, though) – and the chronology is not insignificant either: formed in 2019 as a World Federation of Advertisers (WFA) initiative, partnered with the Association of National Advertisers (ANA).
Then came another “partnership” – that with WEF (World Economic Forum), specifically, its Shaping the Future of Media, Entertainment, and Sport project – a “flagship” one.
In May 2023, the US House Judiciary Committee wanted to know what exactly was happening here, and whether “brand safety” as a concept, as exercised by these entities, could be linked to censorship of online speech.
So the Committee subpoenaed the World Federation of Advertisers (and GARM), asking for records that might show whether these groups “coordinated efforts to demonetize and censor disfavored speech online.”
Committee Chairman Jim Jordan was at the time concerned that this conduct might have run afoul of US antitrust laws.
For X, despite the strides the platform has made toward protecting users’ speech since the Twitter takeover, the GARM relationship is most likely simply about (ad) money – and one of the several efforts to make the platform profitable at last.
Those who were hoping for a “free speech absolutism” on a platform like this might be disappointed, the Congress might investigate some more; but ultimately, the move represents a “realpolitik-style” compromise.
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If you're interested in more Twitter followers, BlackKnight has been helping folks get to at least 1000 followers. A lot of big accounts are joining in -- I've followed a hundred or so accounts that replied to the post that are below 1000. Everybody deserves to get their thoughts and ideas out there:
I Smoked DJT The President Of Certified Pedophiles @BlackKnight10k
The media isn't going to save us so we have to do it ourselves. Come help me build Biden's army.
If you're voting for Joe Biden and you have less than 1000 followers, we're going to get you to 1k. If you have 1k, we're going to get you to 5k, and if you have 5k, we're going to get you to 10k.
Here's how:
• retweet this (super super important)
• reply with #NoDemUnder1K
• Elon has disabled viewing "likes" so tap "reposts" (as pictured)
• follow everyone who reposts this
• tap the # and follow those accounts as well
• follow each other back (super important)
Make it easy for others to want to follow you back by:
• adding a profile pic, even if it isn't a pic of you
• putting pro-Democratic/pro-democracy identifiers in your bio
The maximum number of people you can follow in a day is <400. You can get to 1k in less than a week, 5k in less than 3 weeks, and 10k in less than 6 weeks if you put the time and effort in and there's literally 10,000 loyal Biden voters RIGHT HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FIND THEM. IVE DONE THE HARD PART FOR YOU.
And once you have an audience and feel that people want to listen to what you have to say, you will find your own voice and you can do the work that the media won't do and save our democracy.
You don't have to be a passive player in this. You're not at the mercy of whatever the news coverage dictates. You can stop them from shaping the narrative. You can stop them from ignoring us. You can dictate whether we live free or die under a dictatorship. You just have to do the work.
But at least you don't have to do it alone.
#NoDemUnder1K
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"It actually doesn't take much to be considered a difficult woman. That's why there are so many of us."
--Jane Goodall
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X (i.e. Twitter, i.e. Musk) has brought a lawsuit against advertisers.
Link to the lawsuit - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... 7-x-v-garm
Gift links to articles in The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal about the lawsuit -
X, Owned by Elon Musk, Brings Antitrust Suit Accusing Advertisers of a Boycott
Elon Musk’s X Sues Advertising Coalition Over ‘Massive’ Boycott
Link to the lawsuit - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... 7-x-v-garm
Gift links to articles in The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal about the lawsuit -
X, Owned by Elon Musk, Brings Antitrust Suit Accusing Advertisers of a Boycott
Elon Musk’s X Sues Advertising Coalition Over ‘Massive’ Boycott
Tim Walz’ Golden Rule: Mind your own damn business!
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Does he not know how capitalism works?
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In addition to outliving fuckhead, I have added to the list living long enough to see Elmo carried off by the folks in white coats after one of his drug sessions.
This a-hole is a menace (not news, I know; sometimes I just like to say it).
This a-hole is a menace (not news, I know; sometimes I just like to say it).
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This must be how he expresses philanthropy by putting lawyers to work. He's got money to burn. That assumes he actually pays. He may be getting lessons from the OSG about how to handle contractors.
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Someone has to get rid of his government contracts. I'm expected to have a higher level of integrity, marginal as I and my role are.
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As they say, a lawsuit is just a tweet with a filing fee.
Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain
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pipistrelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:29 pm Someone has to get rid of his government contracts. I'm expected to have a higher level of integrity, marginal as I and my role are.
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I am hoping that a Harris/Walz administration will open up the contracts he currently has and get some fresh competition. There is too much power in the hands of this person who has proven that he is a political hack. He sometimes walks things back when he realizes it might hit him in the pocketbook, but we can't count on always having to rely on the bottom line to keep him in line. Time to take that power and spread it around to people who are little more than political hacks.
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--Jane Goodall
--Jane Goodall
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Lol he's suing a group of advertisers because they won't advertise on his bird site.
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An open letter to advertisers
Every day, hundreds of millions of people come to X to be part of the only global, real-time conversation. They come to share their thoughts and hear others. To share their content and see more. To debate and be debated. To entertain and be entertained. To inspire and be inspired. There is no substitute for X.
The power of this community to bring global conversations to life was the reason I was so excited to join X as CEO in June 2023.
After a career in media and advertising, I thought I had seen everything. Then I read the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee’s report entitled “GARM’s (Global Alliance for Responsible Media) Harm” last month. The report disclosed that their investigation had found evidence of an illegal boycott against many companies, including X.
As their report found: "Evidence obtained by the Committee shows that GARM and its members directly organized boycotts and used other indirect tactics to target disfavored platforms, content creators, and news organizations in an effort to demonetize and, in effect, limit certain choices for consumers."
The consequence - perhaps the intent - of this boycott was to seek to deprive X’s users, be they sports fans, gamers, journalists, activists, parents or political and corporate leaders, of the Global Town Square.
To put it simply, people are hurt when the marketplace of ideas is undermined and some viewpoints are not funded over others as part of an illegal boycott.
This behavior is a stain on a great industry, and cannot be allowed to continue.
That is why, today, X has filed an antitrust lawsuit against the Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM), the World Federation of Advertisers (WFA), and GARM members CVS Health, Mars, Orsted and Unilever. This is not a decision we took lightly, but it is a direct consequence of their actions.
The illegal behavior of these organizations and their executives cost X billions of dollars.
Since arriving at X, I made it my mission to continue to build a platform where people, brands and advertisers can thrive in our unique, dynamic and safe environment.
And because of this commitment to our users, even despite the boycott, usage has reached all time highs. Using a Twitter legacy metric, user active minutes, in August 2022, people spent 7.2 billion active minutes on the platform. Today, that number is more than 9 billion, a 25% increase.
The same is true for video - even compared to last year, daily video views are up 45% to 8.2 billion. X is innovating and growing.
We have met and surpassed the requests made by advertisers and groups such as GARM for new tools, both to improve advertiser controls and the effectiveness of our products to drive increased value for our customers.
We have proven our platform provides advertisers a way to showcase their brands and reach their target audiences safely, efficiently and effectively. That’s why I’ve worked in good faith with marketers across the globe to showcase our innovations and allay any concerns with brands whom I’ve partnered with for decades. The unfortunate reality is that despite all our efforts, hundreds of meetings and research to the contrary, many companies chose to dismiss the facts.
To those who broke the law, we say enough is enough. We are compelled to seek justice for the harm that has been done by these and potentially additional defendants, depending what the legal process reveals.
It's also clear that there are likely others who suffered at the hands of this activity. This case is about more than damages - we have to fix a broken ecosystem that allows this illegal activity to occur.
We will continue to innovate and ensure X has a vibrant future while the courts will hold accountable those who engaged in illegal behavior.
To all of you who have been part of the transformative journey we are on, thank you. Rest assured, we will not stop defending our global town square.
Linda
Hic sunt dracones