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Foggy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:44 pm I'm not happy, but ...

Joe Biden apparently made his own decision.

He was forced out. The media fixation wasn't ending, and the donors were all yippee-ky-yay.

A nasty bout with COVID may have been the final push, but while he may have made his own decision, his choices were (a), (a), or (a).

But he did make the final, gracious announcement, choosing his time and place, not waiting till the final moment.

And, of course:

Who wrote that?

neeneko wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:44 pm I am actually kinda surprised they did it so soon, though maybe just in time. With trump making such a big deal about his nomination and assassination attempt, this kinda move is a great way to wrench the media spotlight back from him. I imagine strategists were trying to work out when would be the most devastating time to do it.

Thinking about it. As painful as it was temporarily for some Dem voters (whom I hope are now recovering and energized)...
Dropping the Biden letter mid day Sunday. clotheslined the Trump team. They are scrambling.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:17 pm

But he did make the final, gracious announcement, choosing his time and place, not waiting till the final moment.

Yeah, but I'm going to be forever pissed that he went from the party nominee with most convinced he could beat Trump to "dementia" and "loser" despite proving after the debate he was fine.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:19 pm Who wrote that?

Where's the THANK YOU!

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:20 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:19 pm Who wrote that?

Where's the THANK YOU!

And the MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN 2024!!!

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:41 pm

bob wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:36 pm

Resume18 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:29 pm

I worry about the opposite.

Yeah, while this may encourage some additional votes, I tend to agree there will be overall fewer Democratic voters.

I'll take the over on that. I think there will be more; I think this will fire up the Dem electorate.

But--only if the fucking Dem party doesn't fuck it by trying to go around Kamala and splitting the party in half.

I totally agree. The majority of Americans did not want a Trump/Biden rematch, they want something different. For many reasons, including that one, I had hoped Biden would not run again. He was 77 in 2020 and he took the job of POTUS seriously enough to have been one of the most consequential presidents of my life. And it aged him horribly, as any serious person is aged by that kind of responsibility. Americans are ready for a new generation and someone youthful to run for President. I love Joe Biden with all my heart and he saved us in 2020. I believe Harris can energize Democrats, especially with Biden's blessing. Young people love her, and I don't mean just the college age who are not reliable voters, but young as in under 50. And women will go for her, I believe. She's a more effective communicator than she's given credit for.

Ya, that's what they said about the youthful (Under 50) Obama, and "the left" crucified him for 8 years. Se also Bill Clinton, 46 when he became President.

neeneko wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:44 pm I am actually kinda surprised they did it so soon, though maybe just in time. With trump making such a big deal about his nomination and assassination attempt, this kinda move is a great way to wrench the media spotlight back from him. I imagine strategists were trying to work out when would be the most devastating time to do it.

This. They knocked the RNC right off the news. No doubt to me that's why the impeached felon is so angry. That's all he cares about, the publicity. I've been trying not to write about him unless it's something important (or bad for him); that's my little way to reduce his mentions because you know his Google Trends report is the first thing he sees with his covfefe. (Of course, he reads The Fogbow right after the Trends report )

Luke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:30 amThey knocked the RNC right off the news. No doubt to me that's why the impeached felon is so angry. That's all he cares about, the publicity.

I tend to concur. The foreseeable news cycle is going to be pre-Democratic-convention jockeying (well, pre-convention-virtual-vote jockeying), people vocally supporting Harris as the nominee, the fresh veepstakes, etc.

And I expect a fresh round of articles explaining that, yes, Harris is eligible.

I think Kamala will engage the under 40 voters - woman, mixed heritage, she can dance, etc. Two old white guys running is so last century.

bob wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:17 pm And, of course:
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1815169070066458661

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski
Poor guy is very emotional tonight.
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1:36 AM · Jul 22, 2024

Will the Democrats also get extra campaign money when #45 gets put off the campaign trail

ps. NADT

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:20 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:17 pm

But he did make the final, gracious announcement, choosing his time and place, not waiting till the final moment.

Yeah, but I'm going to be forever pissed that he went from the party nominee with most convinced he could beat Trump to "dementia" and "loser" despite proving after the debate he was fine.

exactly I have wanted Biden since the first time he ran. He was sincere and truly put country over self. EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:22 am I think Kamala will engage the under 40 voters - woman, mixed heritage, she can dance, etc. Two old white guys running is so last century.

Also, she has the quick wit and legal training to really jam back Trump's lies. I see he's already asking that the debate ground rules be changed if he has to debate HER.

Heh.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:20 pm Yeah, but I'm going to be forever pissed that he went from the party nominee with most convinced he could beat Trump to "dementia" and "loser" despite proving after the debate he was fine.

That's something I think we'll never know all the details. But I went through something in 2022 that I have been thinking about today.

In early and mid-2022, I was doing great physically. I was working out at the fitness club 4x a week. I had a blast boogie boarding that summer, in fairly rough surf at Sunset Beach. I was riding high, 69 years old and strong like burro.

In the autumn, suddenly my shoulders both gave out and I started physical therapy, and by March 2023 I had my first of many shoulder and knee replacement surgeries. My shoulders fell apart awful damn quickly, if'n you ask me.

And maybe that happened to Joe, too also. We've seen him lucid and we've seen him not-so-lucid. Maybe he has a form of dementia and it suddenly accelerated. We will probably never know.

But I think he's a fighter, and if he was lucid 24/7 and able to perform consistently at a high level, he wouldn't have quit.

And this is the Fogbow.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

Why does everyone assume dementia is involved? Because the Republicans and media kept saying it. Sleep deprivation can make you appear addled. Ask me how I know. No, don’t.

Yeah, I shouldn't say dementia. I'm not even his doctor.

Pelosi is a great strategist. My guess is that she and other Democratic leaders saw something in Biden’s actions which concerned them. Based on that, and the knowledge that we MUST beat Trump and that the press and Trump are hyper-focused on Biden’s every misstatement, they came to the conclusion that replacing Biden at this point of time made the most sense.

ESPECIALLY after Trump chose Vance. Brilliant timing!

I really really don't see anything mentally wrong with Biden. So I dint buy anything involving Dementia, that really is the media putting words in peoples mouths.

Its possible that something broke physically with him though. At that age the smallest thing can cause a cascade effect.

Or his bucket of fucks could just about be empty, and he knew it. So, he stepped aside.

bill_g wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:28 pm Or his bucket of fucks could just about be empty, and he knew it. So, he stepped aside.

Ya, seeing the bunch of weather vane assholes he is pushing himself for turn on him cant have been easy to see.

bill_g wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:28 pm Or his bucket of fucks could just about be empty, and he knew it. So, he stepped aside.

I think a big part of that is having caught COVID again for the third time in four years...

At his age that shit is deadly....