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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:31 pm
by raison de arizona
All In with Chris Hayes @allinwithchris wrote: @chrislhayes on how a typo highlights just how wrong the Supreme Court was for overturning the Chevron precedent.

“Going forward when we are trying to figure out, say, how to implement an environmental regulation about clean air, that decision will not be made by the experts whose job it is to understand the issues, but rather by someone like Neil Gorsuch, who doesn’t know the difference between laughing gas and smog.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:35 pm
by New Turtle
raison de arizona wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:31 pm
All In with Chris Hayes @allinwithchris wrote: @chrislhayes on how a typo highlights just how wrong the Supreme Court was for overturning the Chevron precedent.

“Going forward when we are trying to figure out, say, how to implement an environmental regulation about clean air, that decision will not be made by the experts whose job it is to understand the issues, but rather by someone like Neil Gorsuch, who doesn’t know the difference between laughing gas and smog.
This reminds me of Chernobyl, where the decision makers got their positions by being friends with the Politburo.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:15 pm
by jcolvin2
All In with Chris Hayes @allinwithchris wrote: @chrislhayes on how a typo highlights just how wrong the Supreme Court was for overturning the Chevron precedent.

“Going forward when we are trying to figure out, say, how to implement an environmental regulation about clean air, that decision will not be made by the experts whose job it is to understand the issues, but rather by someone like Neil Gorsuch, who doesn’t know the difference between laughing gas and smog.
The two are hard to tell apart: both make certain energy interests happy.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:18 pm
by p0rtia
raison de arizona wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:07 pm If these power crazy maniacs decide that tfg should have immunity, Biden should lock up each and every one of them and throw away the key. He'll be immune too. Start over. Appoint new justices, don't bother with senate confirmation, and move on from this horrible chapter in history.

Because with such a decision, nothing will matter anymore.
Effectively, the fucks on SCOTUS have already given him practical immunity. The rest is scribbling.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:21 pm
by bob
All In with Chris Hayes @allinwithchris wrote: @chrislhayes on how a typo highlights just how wrong the Supreme Court was for overturning the Chevron precedent.

“Going forward when we are trying to figure out, say, how to implement an environmental regulation about clean air, that decision will not be made by the experts whose job it is to understand the issues, but rather by someone like Neil Gorsuch, who doesn’t know the difference between laughing gas and smog.
GMTA.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:42 pm
by pipistrelle
These decisions could incentivize voters to swing the House. I hope. At least those who haven't been dropped from the rolls.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:28 pm
by p0rtia
pipistrelle wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:42 pm These decisions could incentivize voters to swing the House. I hope. At least those who haven't been dropped from the rolls.
Outside of my family, you guys, and two or three friends, no one I talk to has any clue what SCOTUS does. My perfectly reasonable massage therapist can't understand why Biden "let" Roe fall; had no idea that SCOTUS was invovled.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:30 pm
by raison de arizona
tfg is shouting from the rooftops that he is responsible for the fall of R v. W but no one listens.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:11 am
by Dr. Ken

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:19 am
by p0rtia
Proving, as Elie Mystal pointed out, that Roberts was full of shit Friday when he said that Chevron d8dn't affect previous cases.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:20 am
by raison de arizona
Hey there, don't sell him short.

Roberts is full of shit EVERYDAY.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:24 am
by raison de arizona
Dr. Ken wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:11 am
Jackson provides a roadmap to Congress to fix this mess. As if we had a functioning one.
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/2 ... 8_1b82.pdf

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:30 am
by Dr. Ken

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:40 am
by p0rtia
Devil in the details.

MSNBC initial report that communications between potus and staff/officials cannot be used at trial, because presumption of immunity.

Which is not a thing.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:48 am
by p0rtia
Welcome to the monarchy.

RIP USA 1776 to 2024.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:54 am
by Dr. Ken
Reading into this they did shut down trump argument that the only way to prosecute was through successful impeachment and removal

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:59 am
by raison de arizona
https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1807786376643137924
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 wrote: READ: Justice Sotomayor's warning in her dissent:

"When [the president] uses his official powers in any way, under the majority's reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy's Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune. Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority's message today. Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law."

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:01 am
by raison de arizona
Biden needs to order Seal Team 6 to take the conservative justices into custody and transfer them to Guantanamo. Forever.
https://x.com/steve_vladeck/status/1807784801874616463
Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck wrote: Sotomayor: "With fear for our democracy, I dissent."

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:02 am
by p0rtia
I am oddly angry with the various lefty legal talking heads who predicted that Roberts would rise to the task and give Chutkan the go-ahead.

It's an interesting psychological reaction, to be most angry at those nearest to one's own opinions, when one feels those nearest have let one down.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:03 am
by raison de arizona
This would work too. Also.
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:19 am
by raison de arizona
Mark Joseph Stern @mjs_DC wrote: Today's decision is about as big a win for Trump as he could have possibly wanted for expected. The conservative supermajority creates a sweeping new kind of "presidential immunity" that will insulate MANY of his allegedly criminal acts from indictment or prosecution. Just huge.

Justice Sotomayor's dissent is one of the most terrified and terrifying pieces of judicial writing I've ever encountered—she lists the criminal acts that presidents can now take with immunity and says "the president is now a king above the law." https://supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:20 am
by p0rtia
If the president does it, then it's not illegal.

Everything old is new again.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:32 am
by raison de arizona
I'm joining the chorus of voices calling on God Emperor Biden to openly assassinate the conservative Supreme Court Justices, as an official act to protect the country. Of course.
https://x.com/emptywheel/status/1807784181373567254
emptywheel (chicklet) @emptywheel wrote: GREAT NEWS! Roberts DID authorize Joe Biden to sent SEAL TEAM SIX after Alito, as an official act.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:33 am
by raison de arizona
p0rtia wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:20 am If the president does it, then it's not illegal.

Everything old is new again.
https://x.com/vermontgmg/status/1807791450521813260
Garrett M. Graff @vermontgmg wrote: I wrote a history of Watergate that was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize last year. And let me tell you: When Nixon said “if the president does it, it’s not illegal,” no one believed that was true.

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:35 am
by Rolodex
It will come down to judging whether or not any presidential act is in his official capacity or not. And THAT ruling will come down to whatever court it's in. So if Project 2025 become an official presidential doctrine, then all the horrors contained therein will be legal act of the president.

Can Biden appoint "acting" Supreme court justices, like Trump did with cabinet members? No need for senate confirmation.