TESLA cars and other Musk industrial endeveaours (but no longer Elons personal stuff)

[poplove]

Just saw this...

GEICO is Terminating Insurance Coverage of Tesla Cybertrucks, Says “This Type of Vehicle Doesn't Meet Our Underwriting Guidelines”

Article lists several rather amazing problems with cybertrucks.

I Googled the issue when I saw a tweet about it, but this was the only news source I could find. I'd like to see if another news source reports it and if it really is an issue.

I saw some tweets and googled it as well. From what I've seen is there was a post on an EV forum that a cybertruck owner got a letter from Geico saying they they were not renewing. Not sure if it's the same guy, but here's his story. He has eight cars on his policy.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cybertruc ... 114.0.html

[Suranis]

Just saw this...

GEICO is Terminating Insurance Coverage of Tesla Cybertrucks, Says “This Type of Vehicle Doesn't Meet Our Underwriting Guidelines”

Article lists several rather amazing problems with cybertrucks.

I Googled the issue when I saw a tweet about it, but this was the only news source I could find. I'd like to see if another news source reports it and if it really is an issue.

Theres a couple of confirming sources, but it seems very low level news so far. Maybe People don't want to talk about this?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cybertruc ... 114.0.html

This references this website.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/fo ... hat.24927/

Yes it's true, I have been trying to get this across everyone's attention for months.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...e-on-geico-insurance-in-ny.22488/#post-413713



This issue needs more attention before other car insurances follow suit.

I've been trying to bring this to the attention of Tesla but have not been successful. It's very troubling. This used to be an issue in NY, now it seems to be happening in other states too. First Geico will provide you with insurance for the Cybertruck, then cancel in 2 weeks. In states without Tesla insurance, like NY, this causes a serious issue in that other car insurances either A) refuse to insure the Cybertruck or B) charge an EXORBITANT monthly fee.

What is happening with Geico is very inconsistent. Some customers are being told that the Cybertruck is a "restricted vehicle" and cannot be insured leading them to be dropped, while others are renewing their insurance without any issues. Some people, especially in NY seem to be immune to this issue, while others are getting dropped from Geico policy for having a Cybertruck.

It's truly puzzling and inconsistent. It feel like there is something we are missing here.

I'm have been trying to figure out what is triggering this non-renewal for certain people, but not others, but have not been successful. I am being ghosted by all the people and representatives from companies involved.

Tesla recently hired Allen Laben MBA who was a high-level Geico executive with the goal of easing Tesla’s car insurance concerns. I think he would be the prime person that can resolve this issue or least provide further information.

I’ve sent him a LinkedIn invite; however, I have not been successful yet in making contact with him to bring this issue to light.

There's a few more replies, some having Geico problems some having none.

So... unconfirmed, I guess. But I think its fair to conclude that there seems to be problems

Another post from July is entitled "GEICO quoted me $2700 for 6 months insurance premium" which seems very high.

[RTH10260]

Another post from July is entitled "GEICO quoted me $2700 for 6 months insurance premium" which seems very high.

The article linked above mentions repair costs for the Cybertruck beeing above normal, and the frequency of issues too.

Wait and see how other insurance companies are handling this critter.

[neonzx]

I have GEICO for my auto insurance.

But, I don't have eight vehicles on my personal policy. EIGHT

There is no law that an insurance company must insure someone's vehicle. The guy can take out a bond for liability on the CyberDump and pay for the Dump if it is damaged out of his own pocket.

Dude needs to stop whining.

[pipistrelle]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cybertruc ... 114.0.html

[RTH10260]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cybertruc ... 114.0.html

I note that the article specifically mentions multi-car policies, eg this vehicle seems to skew the insurance mathematics on fleet policies. It looks like GEICO may retain single policies where they can quickly adjust rates as needed while they collect experience with this metall box and the specifics as to how it differs from regular vehicles. Do they have expertise in insuring military units with civilian use, like MRAPs operated by SWAT teams?

[Dr. Ken]

[Dr. Ken]

[pipistrelle]

[Dave from down under]

Elon was reined in by Brazil

Well past Time for other nations to act..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-08/ ... /104399160

[RTH10260]

Tesla Cybertruck ‘too big and sharp’ for European roads, say campaigners
Questions raised about registration in Czech Republic of one of first models to reach continent

Ajit Niranjan
Tue 8 Oct 2024 12.00 CEST

Tesla’s Cybertruck is too big and sharp for European roads, transport campaigners have warned, as questions are raised about the registration of one of the first of the electric pickup trucks to hit the continent.

There had been confusion about whether the Cybertruck could be driven in Europe, owing to strict road safety rules that ban sharp edges and require speed limiters on vehicles that weigh more than 3.5 tonnes when full. Tesla’s manual lists the angular steel vehicle as having a gross vehicle weight of 4 tonnes. (The equivalent of a standard family car, such as a Ford Focus, is 1.9 tonnes.)

A handful of Cybertrucks have already been spotted on European streets this year, causing safety fears among campaigners. In a letter to the European Commission and to authorities in the Czech Republic, where the registration of one Cybertruck has raised questions about the rules, campaign groups called for Cybertrucks registered in the EU to be removed from public roads.

“Very oversized pickup trucks [are] now being increasingly imported and bringing danger to our streets,” said James Nix of the nonprofit Transport & Environment, which co-signed the letter.



https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ampaigners

[Dave from down under]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/ ... /104448322

Elon Musk's X to be reinstated in Brazil after complying with Supreme Court demands

In short:
Brazil's Supreme Court has cleared Elon Musk's X to resume service in the country.
The social media platform was suspended in late August after failing to comply with court orders related to hate speech moderation.
Supreme Court Justice de Moraes had been locked in a months-long feud with Mr Musk.

[Suranis]

Tesla stock lost 10% is its value yesterday after Musk unveiled the "Rybavaughn," in an attempt to pump the stock Or, as everyone else would pronounce it, the Robovan.

This Youtuber is really stuck up his own ass but it's a good representation of the stupidity of the thing. You could just mute the sound after you hear Musk's announcement and how he pronounces Robovan. I really wasn't kidding. A guy in the comments spelled it "Ribeauvun." What spellings can you come up with as Elon pulls a DJT with his stock.

[RTH10260]

Tesla’s value drops $60bn after investors fail to hail self-driving ‘Cybercab’
Analysts criticise lack of detail about the ‘robotaxi’ showcased by CEO Elon Musk

Dan Milmo and agency
Fri 11 Oct 2024 23.34 CEST

Tesla shares fell nearly 9% on Friday, wiping about $60bn (£45bn) from the company’s value, after the long-awaited unveiling of its so-called robotaxi failed to excite investors.

Shares in the electric carmaker tumbled to $217 at market close following an event in Hollywood, where the chief executive, Elon Musk, revealed a much-hyped driverless vehicle. The stock price is down roughly 12% year-to-date.

Musk said the company would start building the fully autonomous “Cybercab” by 2026 at a price of less than $30,000, and showed off a van he claimed was capable of transporting 20 people around town autonomously – which he said would reshape cities by turning car parks into parks.

Before the event, he tweeted: “And all transport will be fully autonomous within 50 years.”

During the showcase, he wrote that car parks would no longer be needed in cities.

However, analysts said the event was short on detail and also expressed disappointment over a lack of specifics about other Tesla projects. Musk has a history of making grand projections about upcoming products and failing to follow through in the timeframe he has set, or at all.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -investors

[p0rtia]

Aww.

[bill_g]

A billion here and a billion there, and pretty soon we'll be talking about some real money.

[johnpcapitalist]

Tesla stock lost 10% is its value yesterday after Musk unveiled the "Rybavaughn," in an attempt to pump the stock Or, as everyone else would pronounce it, the Robovan.

Clearly an attempt to boost sales of the Incel Camino by coming up with an even uglier vehicle.

[Estiveo]

Palate cleanser:

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[Rolodex]

Took my car to the drive through car wash yesterday. I went through and was at the vacuum station when I saw a dumpster truck come out of the wash tunnel. I was surprised that the car wash didn't shut it down. Didn't they say to not take it through a car wash?

[sad-cafe]

Palate cleanser:
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such a fugly what ever it is

[RTH10260]

Palate cleanser:

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That vehicle looks brand new, the tires have never seen any dust off the roads. I wonder if this was a fresh delivery and was clamped cause the owner had not yet been reached

[Estiveo]

Palate cleanser:

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That vehicle looks brand new, the tires have never seen any dust off the roads. I wonder if this was a fresh delivery and was clamped cause the owner had not yet been reached

Doing a little quick detective work, this picture was taken on 33rd St, between Madison Ave & Park Ave South in midtown Manhattan. I wouldn't bet against some advertising executive scofflaw parked while getting sushi having a bootable number of parking violations before the new car smell wears off. (Or defaulting on his alimony/child support)

[northland10]

Palate cleanser:

GZt2am4XYAwoCem.jpeg

That vehicle looks brand new, the tires have never seen any dust off the roads. I wonder if this was a fresh delivery and was clamped cause the owner had not yet been reached

Doing a little quick detective work, this picture was taken on 33rd St, between Madison Ave & Park Ave South in midtown Manhattan. I wouldn't bet against some advertising executive scofflaw parked while getting sushi having a bootable number of parking violations before the new car smell wears off. (Or defaulting on his alimony/child support)

What.. not popping around the corner to get his lashes done?

[RTH10260]

US to probe Tesla’s ‘Full Self-Driving’ system after pedestrian killed in low visibility conditions

By The Associated Press and TOM KRISHER
Published: Oct. 18, 2024 at 2:29 PM CEST|Updated: 2 hours ago

DETROIT (AP) — The U.S. government’s road safety agency is investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday after the company reported four crashes when Teslas encountered sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

The investigation covers roughly 2.4 million Teslas from the 2016 through 2024 model years.

A message was left early Friday seeking comment from Tesla, which has repeatedly said the system cannot drive itself and human drivers must be ready to intervene at all times.



https://www.wagmtv.com/2024/10/18/us-pr ... onditions/

[Sam the Centipede]

Are Tesla cars hitting things because they only use ordinary cameras for scene analysis without the Lidar systems that other manufacturers use?