INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v Donald Trump - Judge Tanya Chutkan - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith

[W. Kevin Vicklund]

I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

[RVInit]

I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

So, did they actually drop any actual charges or just some of the evidence to back up those charges? That's what I'm confused about.

[p0rtia]

I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

So, did they actually drop any actual charges or just some of the evidence to back up those charges? That's what I'm confused about.

Same number of charges, but they took out evidence that MAGA SCOTUS said they couldn't use (notably communications with federal employees/DOJ and the Georgia phone call [because for sick reasons this is unconstitutionally considered to be part of his official duties]).

Then they added argument, for example, clarifying that fuckhead was acting in an unofficial way for whatever is left in. Also saying that Pence communications can stay in because he was acting as pres of Senate during those convos or whatever.

[RVInit]

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

So, did they actually drop any actual charges or just some of the evidence to back up those charges? That's what I'm confused about.

Same number of charges, but they took out evidence that MAGA SCOTUS said they couldn't use (notably communications with federal employees/DOJ and the Georgia phone call [because for sick reasons this is unconstitutionally considered to be part of his official duties]).

Then they added argument, for example, clarifying that fuckhead was acting in an unofficial way for whatever is left in. Also saying that Pence communications can stay in because he was acting as pres of Senate during those convos or whatever.

Thanks for clarifying, p0rtia! Well, at least he's facing the same charges/potential penalties. I can live with that.

As if there is any choice about it.

[RTH10260]

Superceding indictment
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status ... 4825843033

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
BREAKING: A grand jury has returned a superseding indictment against Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. retaining the same four core charges against him for trying to subvert the election.
10:01 PM · Aug 27, 2024

Edit: Question: how does this case proceed? Does this invalidate the prior jury trial, does it need to be done all over again? Or can Judge Chutkin reuse the findings of the jury trial and evidence and just adjust the conviction based on the modified charges?

[Dave from down under]

This one hasn't gone to trial
the superseded indictments was to remove a hurdle created by the by SCOTUS so that it could go to trial.

[RTH10260]

ooopsie - can no longer keep my cases separated

[p0rtia]

Heard during discussion of Jack Smith / Chutkan Jan 6 superseding indictment (Joy Reid sitting for Nicolle Wallace) on MSNBC:

“The American legal system has failed.
Trump has found a way to play the system, and has been abetted by SCOTUS. … The American system is an F compared to how we fare compared to other western democracies.” - Andrew Weissman Aug 30 2024

“The president can tell his department of justice to engage in a sham investigation, and he is immune. (Core presidential function). Clearly the Immunity ruling was just tailored to the situation we have now.” - Weissman

“The Judicial system has failed. The criminal system, that is; the civil system has done much better. SCOTUS butchered the Constitution when it comes to the Immunity decision. … How we fix this problem is by elections. So the importance [is] the court date [because voters need to know what’s going on]. It is incredibly important that the date hold. - Maya Wiley

[bob]

Executive summary: Even under a best case scenario, there will be no trial this year.

The defendant's counterproposal requests serial litigation that will bake in so much delay.