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I don't where to put this but it's a great story to share with your MAGA pals who want Scott Presler to be RNC Chair:
Trump allies want Scott Presler to head the RNC — there’s just one problem
His sexual indiscretions as a GOP organizer in Virginia could prove a stumbling block
January 30, 2024 | 3:20 pm

Presler’s name has been floated as a successor to McDaniel for years, particularly after the GOP’s inability to materialize a red wave in the 2022 midterm elections. Harmeet Dhillon, the conservative lawyer who became the most viable challenger to McDaniel in the last RNC chair battle, promised that if she were elected one of her first job offers would go to Presler.

This week, Trump mega fan Laura Loomer claimed that McDaniel “may” announce her resignation at the Winter Meeting, which starts today. The replies again pressed RNC committee members to replace her with Presler. For Presler’s part, he has been tweeting at McDaniel daily since last April demanding she lay out a plan to develop a conservative “army of influencers” that can reach youth voters. McDaniel has not responded to Presler’s messages, nor has the RNC shown any interest in hiring the young activist.

Cockburn’s spies think they might know why: it turns out before Presler became famous for cleaning up urban areas, he was busy soiling party offices. Last year, Politico Playbook reported that Presler worked as a field organizer for the Republican Party of Virginia, which reports to the RNC, in 2015 and 2016. However, he was forced to resign after he “engaged in sexual activity inside a Virginia Beach office the RNC shared with the state party — and posted explicit pictures of the encounter on Craigslist.”

“After party officials were made aware of the photos, Presler was confronted about what had happened and — seeing the writing on the wall — resigned,” Politico reported. Cockburn can confirm via individuals familiar with the incident that Presler was indeed busted making gay porn in an RNC-funded office — and that it is a well-known piece of lore in DC campaign world. Ironically, many of the same people boosting Presler to become RNC chair were condemning the Senator Ben Cardin staffer who, as Cockburn first revealed, filmed himself engaging in gay sex in the US Senate, presumably unaware that one of their political heroes had participated in practically the same behavior. In fact, Cockburn can’t help but wonder if that “twink” was inspired by word of Presler’s activities and wanted to one-up him by performing in an official government building…

Presler did not respond to Politico’s reporting, nor did the Virginia GOP. The RNC would not comment on the allegations either, except to note that Presler did not work “directly” for the RNC, although state parties do ultimately report to the RNC.
https://thespectator.com/topic/trump-al ... esler-rnc/

And it's true, POLITICO has it too, here's the link. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/pl ... t-00079599


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Word on the street is that Kevin McCarthy is a dark horse candidate for McDaniel's replacement, due to his extraordinary fundraising skills. Matt Gaetz (of all people) has come out publicly in support of McCarthy for the position.

I'm still pulling for Lindell.
Edit: Had a chance to see Gaetz's endorsement, :lol: it's a bit backhanded haha.
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Have been hearing about the show, but had no idea it's based on a true story. It's well done and shocking af.


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I have seen the ad for this but had no idea what it was about. Not sure if I have Starz so thanks.

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My husband, an English history buff, watched the first episode of Mary and George. He referred to King James' court as a gay fuckfest.
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He's right! These are just SOME!

Another notable gay male couple from the time of King James I was Sir Edward Herbert and Sir William Herbert, known as the "Herbert brothers." Sir Edward Herbert, a diplomat and poet, shared a close bond with his brother Sir William Herbert, who served as the Earl of Pembroke. The Herbert brothers were influential figures in courtly circles and were patrons of the arts and literature. While there is no concrete evidence of the nature of their relationship, their close companionship and collaboration in cultural endeavors suggest a strong emotional and intellectual connection between them. Their support of writers and artists, including William Shakespeare and Ben Jonson, contributed to the vibrant cultural scene of the Jacobean era. The Herbert brothers exemplify the camaraderie and friendship that flourished among gay men in the court of King James I, reflecting the diversity of personal relationships and connections during this fascinating period in history.
In the court of King James I, there existed a flourishing atmosphere of cultural and intellectual vibrancy, which also extended to matters of personal relationships and sexuality. James I was known for his patronage of the arts and literature, fostering an environment where creativity and expression thrived. Within this milieu, individuals were able to explore their identities and form intimate connections regardless of societal norms.

Homosexuality was not uncommon in royal courts during this period, and King James I's court was no exception. The king himself was rumored to have close relationships with several male courtiers, most notably George Villiers, Duke of Buckingham. Their bond was celebrated in courtly circles and immortalized in literature and art of the time.

The presence of homosexuality in the court of King James I contributed to a rich tapestry of human experience, where individuals were free to express their desires and form meaningful connections. It fostered a sense of inclusivity and acceptance, challenging traditional notions of sexuality and gender roles.

Moreover, the acceptance of homosexuality in the royal court had broader cultural implications. It encouraged tolerance and diversity, paving the way for a more open-minded approach to relationships and identity in society at large. The court of King James I thus played a pivotal role in shaping attitudes towards homosexuality during the early modern period.

In sum, the rampant homosexuality in the court of King James I should be viewed in a positive light, as it reflects a celebration of human diversity and the freedom to love and express oneself without fear of persecution. It represents a significant chapter in LGBTQ+ history and serves as a testament to the enduring power of acceptance and inclusion.

Robert Carr and Thomas Overbury: Robert Carr was another favorite of King James I, rising to prominence in the early years of the king's reign. Carr's relationship with Thomas Overbury, a poet and courtier, was the subject of much scandal and intrigue. Overbury opposed Carr's marriage to Frances Howard, leading to his imprisonment and eventual death under suspicious circumstances. The scandal surrounding Carr and Overbury's relationship highlighted the complexities of court politics and the dangers of crossing powerful individuals.

Sir Philip Sidney and Fulke Greville: Although not directly associated with the court of King James I, Sir Philip Sidney and Fulke Greville were influential figures of the Elizabethan era whose relationship has been the subject of speculation. Sidney, a celebrated poet, soldier, and diplomat, shared a close friendship with Greville, a fellow poet and courtier. Their intimate bond and exchange of affectionate letters have led some historians to suggest the possibility of a romantic relationship between the two men, reflecting the fluidity of relationships and sexuality during the Renaissance period.

William Shakespeare and the Sonnets: While not a member of the court per se, William Shakespeare's works provide insight into the culture and attitudes of the time. His sonnets, in particular, contain numerous references to male-male relationships and expressions of affection. Sonnets 18, 20, and 126 are often cited as examples of Shakespeare's exploration of homoerotic themes, suggesting that such relationships were not uncommon or taboo within the cultural milieu of the era.

John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester: John Wilmot, known as the Earl of Rochester, was a prominent figure in the court of King Charles II, James I's successor. Wilmot was known for his wit, charm, and libertine lifestyle, which included numerous romantic and sexual liaisons with both men and women. His poetry and writings, characterized by their bawdy humor and explicit content, provide insight into the libertine culture of the Restoration court and its attitudes towards sexuality and relationships.

Sir Francis Bacon and Sir Tobie Matthew: Sir Francis Bacon, a philosopher, statesman, and essayist, shared a close friendship with Sir Tobie Matthew, a fellow courtier and diplomat. The letters exchanged between Bacon and Matthew reveal a deep emotional bond and affection between the two men, leading some historians to speculate about the nature of their relationship. While the exact nature of their friendship remains ambiguous, their correspondence provides valuable insights into the dynamics of male-male relationships within the court.

Sir Edward Coke and Sir John Villiers: Sir Edward Coke, a renowned lawyer and judge, formed a close friendship with Sir John Villiers, brother of George Villiers, Duke of Buckingham. Despite their differing political allegiances, Coke and Villiers shared a deep bond, with Coke even appointing Villiers as the executor of his will. Their relationship underscores the complex interplay between personal connections and political affiliations within the court.

Christopher Marlowe and Thomas Walsingham: Christopher Marlowe, a celebrated playwright and poet, is known to have associated with Thomas Walsingham, a member of a prominent noble family. While the exact nature of their relationship is unclear, Marlowe's works, particularly his homoerotic themes and subtext, suggest a familiarity with same-sex desire and relationships prevalent in the cultural milieu of the time.

Sir Walter Raleigh and Sir Robert Sidney: Sir Walter Raleigh, a renowned explorer, soldier, and courtier, shared a close friendship with Sir Robert Sidney, brother of Sir Philip Sidney. Raleigh and Sidney exchanged letters discussing politics, literature, and personal matters, demonstrating the depth of their bond. Their correspondence offers insights into the intellectual and social circles of the court of King James I.

Sir Francis Bacon and James I: Sir Francis Bacon, a prominent philosopher, scientist, and statesman, had a complex relationship with King James I. Bacon served as Lord Chancellor under James I's reign and was known for his intellectual prowess and influence at court. While there is no evidence to suggest a romantic relationship between Bacon and James I, Bacon's close association with the king and his rise to power highlight the importance of personal connections in court politics.

Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton, and William Shakespeare: Henry Wriothesley, the Earl of Southampton, was a patron of the arts and a supporter of William Shakespeare. Southampton is believed to be the "Fair Youth" to whom Shakespeare dedicated his sonnets, expressing admiration and affection. While the exact nature of their relationship remains speculative, Shakespeare's dedications and sonnets reflect the intimacy and patronage prevalent in courtly circles.

Sir Philip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery, and William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke: Sir Philip Herbert and his brother William Herbert were influential figures in the court of King James I. Both men were patrons of the arts and supporters of writers and playwrights, including William Shakespeare and Ben Jonson. While there is no evidence of a romantic relationship between the brothers, their patronage and support contributed to the flourishing cultural and literary scene of the Jacobean era.

John Donne and Sir Henry Wotton: John Donne, the renowned poet and cleric, shared a close friendship with Sir Henry Wotton, a diplomat and writer. Donne and Wotton corresponded extensively, discussing a wide range of topics including literature, politics, and personal matters. Their friendship and intellectual exchange exemplify the camaraderie and collaboration among intellectuals and courtiers during the Jacobean era.

John Florio and Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton: John Florio, an Italian-born linguist and writer, served as tutor to Henry Wriothesley, the Earl of Southampton. Florio's influence on Southampton's education and literary pursuits is evident in his translations and writings. Their relationship underscores the cultural exchange and intellectual curiosity prevalent in courtly circles during the Jacobean era.

John Selden and Edward Heyward: John Selden, a renowned legal scholar and historian, shared a close friendship with Edward Heyward, a fellow scholar and courtier. Their intellectual bond and mutual respect led to collaboration on several scholarly projects, including legal treatises and historical research. While there is no evidence of a romantic relationship between them, their companionship and shared interests exemplify the camaraderie and collaboration among gay men in the intellectual circles of the Jacobean era.

Sir Robert Sidney and Fulke Greville: Sir Robert Sidney, brother of Sir Philip Sidney, had a close relationship with Fulke Greville, a poet and courtier. The two men shared a passion for literature and the arts, and their friendship was characterized by mutual admiration and support. Greville's poetry often expressed themes of love and longing, leading some historians to speculate about the nature of their relationship. Their story highlights the importance of friendship and shared interests in fostering emotional connections among gay men in the court of King James I.

Sir John Harington and Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton: Sir John Harington, a courtier and writer, was known to have a close friendship with Henry Wriothesley, the Earl of Southampton. Harington dedicated his translation of Ariosto's "Orlando Furioso" to Southampton, expressing his admiration and affection for his friend. While the exact nature of their relationship is unclear, their bond underscores the importance of personal connections and mutual respect among gay men in the courtly circles of King James I.

John Chamberlain and Dudley Carleton: John Chamberlain, a diplomat and writer, shared a close friendship with Dudley Carleton, another diplomat and courtier. The two men corresponded extensively, discussing politics, literature, and personal matters. Their letters reveal a deep emotional bond and intellectual kinship, highlighting the importance of companionship and camaraderie among gay men in the court of King James I.

Sir Henry Wotton and John Donne: Sir Henry Wotton, a diplomat and poet, formed a close friendship with John Donne, the renowned poet and cleric. Wotton served as Donne's mentor and patron, supporting his literary pursuits and facilitating his entry into courtly circles. Their friendship was characterized by mutual respect and admiration, with Donne dedicating several poems to Wotton. Their story exemplifies the supportive and nurturing relationships that flourished among gay men in the cultural and intellectual circles of King James I's court.
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:eek: SHOCKING --- how can the US Christians be allowed to admire the only real bible :?:
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Sir Edward Coke is particularly interesting, since it was he who was cited by Alito as authority for overturning Roe v. Wade. Something, something about females and witchcraft. Does Alito know that he was citing to the openly gay Court of King James?

Also, the Earl of Southampton got around! I have seen portraits of him-- a very handsome youth as Shakespeare said.
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Thought of that often, if they only knew all this about King James. Maybe we should send the boxed set to Alito.


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I listen to a podcast called Straight White American Jesus (I think I'm addicted to getting mad about white Christian nationalists). Although not something I haven't heard before, a recent show touched on whether Jesus might have been gay. There's no "proof" he was straight - no wife (not that that means you're not gay but ykim),no mention at all of any kind of intimate relationship outside of agape love for his disciples. It's an interesting concept and I like it because the CNs have nothing to "prove"it with. Sure he was "chaste" (maybe) but that is not proof he wasn't gay. If you're gonna be a literalist, then you're stuck with no proof. Oops!
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Rolodes, send these along -- there were plenty of hijinx during Jesus' time too also...

Tthere are individuals mentioned in the New Testament and other ancient texts whose personal lives have been subject to speculation or interpretation. Was Judas JEALOUS?

Judas Iscariot: Judas Iscariot is famously known as the disciple who betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver, leading to Jesus' arrest and crucifixion. While Judas' actions are well-documented in the Gospels, his motivations and personal life remain subjects of speculation. Some interpretations have explored the complexity of Judas' character and the possible reasons behind his betrayal, but his sexual orientation is not addressed in the biblical texts.
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MAGAts are picking on my boyfriend Alan Ritchson (hands off, boys and girls) and many of us are not having it.


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A lil off topic after those great pix but...

I'm at my short term rental/vacation house and changed the wallpaper on the Roku to a Pride theme. I provide Spectrum "cable" via their streaming app and also blocked Fox news. I had it blocked when we had regular cable (parental PIN protected) and I wasn't sure I could do it when we switched to the streaming app instead. Score! I can't prevent the FN app from being downloaded but you can't have everything.
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US Fish and Wildlife having fun while they can. Their responses to the triggered are informative and professional.
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Gay elder prom brings joy, redo of dance many dreaded decades ago
“It’s a wonderful thing to be in a place where you’re totally accepted for who you are,” said Andre Simpson, 67, about the Los Angeles LGBT Center’s senior prom.
By Sydney Page July 6, 2024 at 9:05 a.m. EDT

Mel Weiss was filled with dread as his high school prom approached. He didn’t want anyone to know he was gay, so he brought a girl as his date. “This was a time where people were not out,” said Weiss, now 88. “I just felt uncomfortable.” Prom night certainly was not the formative experience he had in mind. But Weiss and hundreds of other gay seniors recently had the chance to redo their prom night, as their true selves.

Last week, the Los Angeles LGBT Center held its 27th annual Senior Prom event, which invites members of the LGBTQ+ community over age 50 to celebrate being gay — something many of them were ashamed of as teens. “Many of our older adults grew up in a time where coming out was really hard. This was before gay marriage was even possible,” said Kiera Pollack, director of senior services at Los Angeles LGBT Center.

The June 28 event closed out Pride Month — which can sometimes be difficult for seniors to participate in. “A lot of Pride celebrations aren’t necessarily the greatest for folks that are older to get to and engage in,” said Pollack, noting that Pride marches can be crowded and physically taxing. “To feel like they’re still able to celebrate being part of the community is really important.”

This year, more than 300 seniors dressed up in prom outfits and gathered at the Los Angeles Zoo for an evening of dinner and dancing. The prom — which was sponsored by the Angel City Football Club and Charlotte’s Web — is free and includes transportation, as well assistance to purchase an outfit for seniors who can’t afford to do so. Most of the attendants are between 60 and 80.

Guests are welcome to bring a date if they wish, though many people — including Weiss — choose to come solo and mingle. Pollack said some people met new romantic partners at the prom. “We had so many people that were so happy to be there, and to be able to connect with each other,” said Pollack, noting that many of the seniors aren’t completely out in all aspects of their lives. “I saw a number of people just being able to be themselves and be able to kiss their partner and dance and feel connected … it was just beautiful.”

“We felt very good,” said Weiss, who has attended several senior proms over the years. He lives at Triangle Square Senior Apartments, which offers affordable housing to LGBTQ+ seniors and is owned and operated by the Los Angeles LGBT Center. Weiss grew up in an orthodox Jewish family and came out only about 20 years ago. Before that, “I was out to my family and a few friends, but I wasn’t really out to everyone,” he said. Meeting other gay seniors, Weiss said, has helped him feel more comfortable in his own skin. Socializing at the senior prom is a yearly highlight for him. “It’s always a lot of fun,” he said. “We all felt very happy when we left.”

Weiss was crowned a “monarch” — a play on the prom king and queen concept — along with two other attendees. The crowns are given to the three oldest people there. “We want to celebrate people as they’re getting older,” Pollack said. Andre Simpson said he didn’t expect to get a second shot at attending prom, but he’s glad he did. He said the evening was memorable and meaningful. “Seeing all the love, couples kissing and friends meeting and celebrating just being who you are,” said Simpson, 67. Nearly 50 years ago, he had no desire to go to his high school prom, but he went to “fit in,” he said. “It was not fun.” “I just felt social pressure,” said Simpson, who took one of his female classmates to his prom. “I really didn’t want to go with a girl.” Although Simpson’s high school prom was not what he had hoped for, he said attending the Los Angeles LGBT Center’s senior prom made up for it.

“It’s an inoculation against the past hurts, the past pain,” he said. “A lot of elders in the LGBTQ community have survived a lot, and still their spirits are happy. They’re still joyful inside. They have not been destroyed by life’s disappointments.” Bonding with other seniors in the LGBTQ community is “really a healing process,” said Simpson, adding that he intends to continue going to the prom for years. “It’s a wonderful thing to be in a place where you’re totally accepted for who you are,” he said.

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Awww, poor dears. My heart absolutely BLEEDS purple polka-dotted peanut butter.

Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
"Mark Dorman, a retired schoolteacher from the Hell’s Kitchen neighborhood, said he’s been practically blacklisted from his local gay bar, the Atlas Social Club, for his political affiliation. Dorman said he went public with his Trump love at the pub last summer, and he’s been feeling the anti-MAGA burn since."

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“When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said."
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shannon wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:06 pm Awww, poor dears. My heart absolutely BLEEDS purple polka-dotted peanut butter.

Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
"Mark Dorman, a retired schoolteacher from the Hell’s Kitchen neighborhood, said he’s been practically blacklisted from his local gay bar, the Atlas Social Club, for his political affiliation. Dorman said he went public with his Trump love at the pub last summer, and he’s been feeling the anti-MAGA burn since."

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"Dorman says his Trumpiness nearly destroyed his marriage.

“When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said."
It's a cult, just recall the carnage that birtherism left behind on marriages ... :blackeye:
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