Trump's Classified Docs Theft: Mar-A-Lago, FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness - Spy Hard

Dr. Ken · #4027

More pictures coming out about the way the documents were kept. I'm curious about the weird picture of trump

#4028

The weird picture of tfg is actually two different pictures, his stupid face on top of another picture.

RTH10260 · #4029

Seems the Monday hearing did not go well.

So bad that MTN Ben Meiselas is losing his cool too

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RTH10260 · #4030

Sealed notes shed light on Trump's alleged efforts to hide classified documents
Judge Aileen Cannon is considering tossing out the notes as evidence.

ByKatherine Faulders and Peter Charalambous ABCNews logo
Wednesday, June 26, 2024 4:04AM

Donald Trump privately expressed concerns that turning over potentially classified documents in his possession after a May 2022 subpoena could result in criminal charges while repeatedly engaging in what prosecutors have described as an effort to enlist his lawyers to lie and destroy documents for his benefit, according to transcripts of audio notes reviewed by ABC News.

Prosecutors allege that rather than comply with the subpoena, Trump opted to hide dozens of classified documents from his own lawyers, and federal agents eventually seized 102 classified documents -- including 17 top secret documents -- after they executed a search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022.

The notes, which ABC News first reported on last year, are at the center of an ongoing legal battle in the former president's federal classified documents case, where prosecutors have used the detailed notes about Trump's behavior and statements as key evidence to demonstrate that the former president attempted to obstruct justice by hiding documents from investigators.

Aileen Cannon, the judge overseeing the case, is hearing arguments today on Trump's effort to limit prosecutors' use of the notes and to have the entire case dismissed based on the role of the notes in the government's case.

Two months before agents searched Mar-a-Lago, Trump's former lead attorney Evan Corcoran's notes -- which prosecutors have used to bolster their case against the former president -- describe that Trump repeatedly blamed his legal troubles on his "political enemies," was reluctant to allow the review of boxes that prosecutors say contained dozens of classified documents, and engaged in conduct that prosecutors believe was an effort to "corrupt" his attorneys by concealing Trump's alleged retention of classified documents.

"He raised a question as to, if we gave them additional documents now, would they, would they, the Department of Justice, come back and say well, why did you withhold them and try to use that as a basis for criminal liability or to make him look bad in the press," according to Corcoran's notes about what Trump asked his attorneys in May 2022 after prosecutors subpoenaed the former president to turn over any classified documents in his possession, records reviewed by ABC News say.

"Well look isn't it better if there are no documents?" Trump also asked his attorneys after raising concerns about prosecutors "opening up new fronts against him," according to Corcoran's notes.

A spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment to ABC News. A spokesperson with The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

https://abc7ny.com/post/donald-trump-ex ... /14998623/

RTH10260 · #4031

Prosecutors reject Trump’s bid to toss documents case due to ‘haphazard storage’
Newly revealed photos show Trump’s ‘cluttered’ collection of personal keepsakes mixed with classified documents

Hugo Lowell in Fort Pierce, Florida
Tue 25 Jun 2024 21.48 CEST

Special counsel prosecutors scoffed at Donald Trump’s claim that the classified documents case should be tossed because the order of documents in the boxes was slightly changed, arguing in a Monday night court filing it did not matter since the contents of the boxes were already so haphazardly stored.

“Trump personally chose to keep documents containing some of the nation’s most highly guarded secrets in cardboard boxes along with a collection of other personally chosen keepsakes of various sizes and shapes from his presidency” prosecutors wrote.

“At the end of his presidency, he took his cluttered collection of keepsakes to Mar-a-Lago, his personal residence and social club,” prosecutors described, adding: “After they landed in stacks in the storage room, several boxes fell and splayed their contents on the floor.”

The 33-page filing submitted by prosecutors was partly a defense of the Federal Bureau of Investigation agents who retrieved 101 classified documents from the Mar-a-Lago club in August 2022 and their concession that some were recorded slightly out of order, and partly to ridicule Trump’s legal arguments.

It also gave prosecutors an opportunity to make public previously unseen photographs of how the FBI found the classified documents, commingled with white-and-black striped golf shirts, a hardcopy of a New York Times story about his dealings with Deutsche Bank, cases of Diet Coke, and red Maga hats.

In doing so, prosecutors pressed their argument that it could not possibly matter that a number of documents, after being sent back to the FBI Washington field office from Mar-a-Lago, fell out of order compared to when they were initially found.

“The boxes contained all manner of items, including, for example, papers of varying sizes, from folded large-format items to tiny notes; clothing; picture frames; shoes; magazines; newspapers; newspaper clippings; correspondence; greeting cards; binders; and Christmas ornaments,” the filing said.

“The notion that the precise ordering of materials within these boxes possessed any exculpatory value that would be apparent to the Filter Team when they opened the boxes is absurd,” it added.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... ments-case

Chilidog · #4032

I'm willing to bet that the regulations detailing the storage requirements use the word "shall" quite a lot.

And it's not as if he couldn't afford to build a proper system..

Trump is just a cheap ass property developer

Hawk Tueh on him

Ben-Prime · #4033

It does give an additional sub-definition to the word 'chutzpah', though:

"If it please this Honorable Court, I should be excused from facing charges for improper retention of these documents because of the improper way I stored these documents."

#4034

Everything old is new again.
https://x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/18 ... 8686409171

Mueller, She Wrote @MuellerSheWrote wrote: NEW: Cannon doesn't care that the DC District Court already ruled that Corcoran's notes were subject to the crime fraud exception of attorney client privilege. She wants to have her own mini-trial about it.
Hugo Lowell @hugolowell wrote: NEW: Judge Cannon will grant TRUMP an evidentiary hearing to potentially suppress key obstruction evidence in the classified docs case

Cannon will decide AFRESH the extent the crime-fraud exception applies to ex-Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran's notes https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 55.0_1.pdf

Resume18 · #4035

Eff her.

Flatpoint High · #4036

Resume18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:29 pmEff her.

to quote Anybodys in West Side Story: Awww, who'd wanna?

RTH10260 · #4037

I guess IFF she approves the exclusion then we will have an opinion by the 11th Appellate judges?

#4038

this is take one thousand at the gag order

#4039

One thing is for sure. Cannon is becoming quite the expert at wasting time.

RTH10260 · #4040

Question: was mentally declassifying top secret government documents a protected presidential activity

Flatpoint High · #4041

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:37 pm Question: was mentally declassifying top secret government documents a protected presidential activity

Only Uri Geller knows

RTH10260 · #4042

Who would not know better about bending laws than the guy who bends spoons^(*)

^(*) applies only to metal cutlery - wodden ſpoons are a protected species

sugar magnolia · #4043

Flatpoint High wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:32 pm
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:37 pm Question: was mentally declassifying top secret government documents a protected presidential activity
Only Uri Geller knows

Off Topic

My great-uncle was an expert on Uri Geller. When we cleaned out his house after he died, there were rooms and rooms of writings and research on Geller. I also have an aunt who is an expert on Bronies and literally travels all over the world giving seminars on the psychology of it.

Flatpoint High · #4044

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:08 pm
Flatpoint High wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:32 pm
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:37 pm Question: was mentally declassifying top secret government documents a protected presidential activity
Only Uri Geller knows

Off Topic
My great-uncle was an expert on Uri Geller. When we cleaned out his house after he died, there were rooms and rooms of writings and research on Geller. I also have an aunt who is an expert on Bronies and literally travels all over the world giving seminars on the psychology of it.

That is awesome.

#4045

Of course he does.

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney wrote: JUST IN: Trump urges Judge Cannon to rely on Justice Thomas' concurrence in the immunity ruling to determine that Jack Smith's appointment/funding is unconstitutional. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 63.0_2.pdf

bob · #4046

Slim Cognito · #4047

Because of course she fucking did.

Resume18 · #4048

Could it be more obvious?

sugar magnolia · #4049

Resume18 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:52 pm Could it be more obvious?

I guess she could jump up from the bench next time he's in her courtroom and run over and kiss him, while stuffing money in his pocket with one hand and shoving the other down his pants. Other than that, probably not.

Ben-Prime · #4050

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:02 pm
Resume18 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:52 pm Could it be more obvious?
I guess she could jump up from the bench next time he's in her courtroom and run over and kiss him, while stuffing money in his pocket with one hand and shoving the other down his pants. Other than that, probably not.

We call that the Thomas-Boebert Style of Government Officiatin'.