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Yeah, that.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-28/ ... /101811838


The leader of a foiled plot by members of right-wing militia groups to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has been sentenced to 16 years in prison, prosecutors say.

Key points:

A militia group planned to kidnap the governor at her vacation home
They wanted to make her stand "trial" on bogus treason charges and face execution
13 men were arrested in total, their sentences range from two-and-a-half years to 10 years
Adam Fox, 39, was convicted in August by a federal court jury in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

He was found guilty of conspiring to abduct Ms Whitmer, a Democrat, and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction in a scheme prosecutors said was intended to spark a "second American revolution".
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I definitely don't want any of what Vance is smoking.
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More demands from the DOJ for Vance, this time about jailing journalists for having opinions.
GOP senator demands DOJ investigate reporter who wrote about potential Trump dictatorship

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) is demanding the Justice Department open a criminal investigation into Robert Kagan, the Washington Post columnist who wrote an op-ed warning of a potential Donald Trump dictatorship.

According to Fox News, Vance is accusing Kagan of inciting "open rebellion" against the United States, for suggesting in his article, "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending," that Democratic-controlled states might resist federal power under a second Trump term should he move to enact his controversial plans to reshape the federal government to do his bidding.

"Resistance could come from the governors of predominantly Democratic states such as California and New York through a form of nullification," wrote Kagan. "States with Democratic governors and statehouses could refuse to recognize the authority of a tyrannical federal government. That is always an option in our federal system," he added that this sort of standoff is also possible from Republican-controlled states under a second Biden term.

In a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland, Vance claimed that this amounts to inciting insurrection.

"As you know, prosecutors in the Department of Justice have embraced several stunningly broad interpretations of federal law in their bid to ensnare President Trump in criminal wrongdoing," wrote Vance. "For example, prosecutors ... argue that President Trump has conspired to 'threaten' or 'intimidate' one or more persons in their free exercise of the 'right to vote, and to have one’s vote counted.' By that standard, I would like to know whether a supporter of President Trump might be 'intimidate[d]' into foregoing the right to vote after learning that Robert Kagan has encouraged large blue states to rebel against the United States if Trump is elected. If so, I wonder further whether the editors of The Washington Post, having put Kagan’s call to arms in print, might have conspired to suppress the vote."

Columnists enjoy broad-based protection to engage in such hypothetical scenarios by virtue of the First Amendment.

However, Vance's demand to prosecute an opinion columnist comes as allies of Trump are ramping up their threats to curtail press freedom under a second Trump term. Kash Patel, a top security official in the Trump administration, threatened that Trump will "come after" reporters and other "conspirators" in media who "helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections."
https://www.rawstory.com/vance-trump-doj-probe-demand/
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Dave from down under wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:25 am https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-28/ ... /101811838


The leader of a foiled plot by members of right-wing militia groups to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has been sentenced to 16 years in prison, prosecutors say.

Key points:

A militia group planned to kidnap the governor at her vacation home
They wanted to make her stand "trial" on bogus treason charges and face execution
13 men were arrested in total, their sentences range from two-and-a-half years to 10 years
Adam Fox, 39, was convicted in August by a federal court jury in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

He was found guilty of conspiring to abduct Ms Whitmer, a Democrat, and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction in a scheme prosecutors said was intended to spark a "second American revolution".
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That's in Michigan, not Ohio where the despicable Senator Vance resides.
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GOP senator demands DOJ investigate reporter who wrote about potential Trump dictatorship
Truth is an absolute defense.
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Mike Sington @MikeSington wrote: George Stephanopoulos gets fed up with ultra MAGA Republican JD Vance, pulls the plug on him. (Video: ABC)
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Visions of poor lil JD Vance getting slapped around... :thumbsup:
Ohio Legislative Watch @OhioLegisWatch wrote: “Does anyone know who Al Capone is? He’d take a guy like JD and slap him around. Who the hell are you, senator?”

-Donald Trump, taking the opportunity to belittle @JDVance1 at his rally in Dayton
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That's what loyalty to Turnip gets you. JD. He insults you in public and dares you to complain, so he can get a one inch stiffy.
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It's a joke! You libs have no sense of humor! (So the replies go.)
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“Does anyone know who Al Capone is? He’d take a guy like JD and slap him around. Who the hell are you, senator?”
I hesitate to ask, but why is he going after Vance (who isn't even on this year's ballot)? (Brown is the Ohio senator standing for election this year.)

I get that Vance beat Dolan in the 2022 Republican primary (and that Moreno withdrew before the 2022 primary), but what a weird unforced error. Especially considering who endorsed Vance in the primary in 2022.
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bob wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:42 pm
“Does anyone know who Al Capone is? He’d take a guy like JD and slap him around. Who the hell are you, senator?”
I hesitate to ask, but why is he going after Vance (who isn't even on this year's ballot)? (Brown is the Ohio senator standing for election this year.)
He's feeling a little nervous and powerless, so demanding someone grovel when you insult them is just the thing.

Its a loyalty test, basically.
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bob wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:42 pm
“Does anyone know who Al Capone is? He’d take a guy like JD and slap him around. Who the hell are you, senator?”
I hesitate to ask, but why is he going after Vance (who isn't even on this year's ballot)? (Brown is the Ohio senator standing for election this year.)

I get that Vance beat Dolan in the 2022 Republican primary (and that Moreno withdrew before the 2022 primary), but what a weird unforced error. Especially considering who endorsed Vance in the primary in 2022.
Possibly he's forgotten who Vance is and thinks he's the guy running against Moreno.
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And WTF does he keep talking about gangsters like they're some kind of heroes?

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:explode:
Acyn @Acyn wrote: Vance: The Biden Administration policies have benefited billionaires, Trump’s policies benefited working people
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:splat:
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Let's start with that SALT cap. Talk to the working folk on LI about how that affected them. Just to pick an item.
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