"Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers"

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There is a bumper crop of Trump books, but one caught my eye: "Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers" by John Dean and Bob Altemeyer. Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, wrote a pre-Trump book that I found insightful, "The Authoritarians" (that you can download for free).

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DrConspiracy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:29 pm There is a bumper crop of Trump books, but one caught my eye: "Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers" by John Dean and Bob Altemeyer. Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, wrote a pre-Trump book that I found insightful, "The Authoritarians" (that you can download for free).

I'll leave my impression when I finish it.
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I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?
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SuzieC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:26 pm I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?
Yep. He has written several books on authoritarians, at least one with Altemeyer. Well worth the reads.
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I’ve mentioned this before:

John Dean holds a special place in my heart. When I was at FireDogLake, we read his book ‘Conservatives Without a Conscience’ and he came online to do a book salon with us. What started out as an hour-long discussion turned into 2.5, until he absolutely had to go. We weren’t done, though.

We kept submitting questions after he left and he answered them all later that night. In all he spent about 5 hours with us dirty fucking hippies and our great questions. Emptywheel was there, as I remember.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:36 pm I’ve mentioned this before:

John Dean holds a special place in my heart. When I was at FireDogLake, we read his book ‘Conservatives Without a Conscience’ and he came online to do a book salon with us. What started out as an hour-long discussion turned into 2.5, until he absolutely had to go. We weren’t done, though.

We kept submitting questions after he left and he answered them all later that night. In all he spent about 5 hours with us dirty fucking hippies and our great questions. Emptywheel was there, as I remember.
Very cool!

I've read Conservatives Without a Conscience over and over.
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Boy, was he right. He said they’d keep coming and here they are.
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SuzieC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:26 pm I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?
Yes, it's that John Dean.
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This is the SECOND EDITION of the book with post coup material. August 25, 2020.
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