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Sequoia32 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:11 pm So did they do DNA testing on Monica's dress?

noblepa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:15 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:02 pm

Sequoia32 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:54 pm I want something, anything to shut him up.

Narrator: But there was nothing, not anything, that could shut him up.

The only thing that will ever shut him up is the Grim Reaper. NADT.

Even if he actually goes to prison, he will find a way to loudly and publicly claim that he is being persecuted and mistreated in prison. Probably via Junior and Eric.

Judge denies Trump’s request for a new trial in E. Jean Carroll case

A federal judge has denied Donald Trump’s request for a new trial in the E. Jean Carroll case – finding the jury who found that the former president sexually abused and defamed Carroll did not reach a “seriously erroneous result.”

“The jury in this case did not reach ‘a seriously erroneous result,” Judge Lewis Kaplan said. “Its verdict is not ‘a miscarriage of justice.’”

Trump had asked for the new trial after the jury awarded magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll $5 million in damages.

“Now that the court has denied Trump’s motion for a new trial or to decrease the amount of the verdict, E Jean Carroll looks forward to receiving the $5 million in damages that the jury awarded her in Carroll II. She also looks forward to continuing to hold Trump accountable for what he did to her at the trial in Carrol I, which is scheduled to begin on January 15, 2024,” said Roberta Kaplan, attorney for Carroll.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:27 am

Judge denies Trump’s request for a new trial in E. Jean Carroll case

A federal judge has denied Donald Trump’s request for a new trial in the E. Jean Carroll case – finding the jury who found that the former president sexually abused and defamed Carroll did not reach a “seriously erroneous result.”

“The jury in this case did not reach ‘a seriously erroneous result,” Judge Lewis Kaplan said. “Its verdict is not ‘a miscarriage of justice.’”

Trump had asked for the new trial after the jury awarded magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll $5 million in damages.

“Now that the court has denied Trump’s motion for a new trial or to decrease the amount of the verdict, E Jean Carroll looks forward to receiving the $5 million in damages that the jury awarded her in Carroll II. She also looks forward to continuing to hold Trump accountable for what he did to her at the trial in Carrol I, which is scheduled to begin on January 15, 2024,” said Roberta Kaplan, attorney for Carroll.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics ... index.html

noblepa wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:37 am IANAL, but has always been my understanding that, at least in a criminal trial, the defendant can't appeal on the grounds that "the jury got it wrong". I realize that this is a civil case, not a criminal one, so maybe the rules are different.

Kyle Cheney wrote:Judge Kaplan rejects Trump's bid to throw out the verdict in the Carroll sexual assault lawsuit — and he says the Carroll jury did, in fact, find Trump raped her, based on the common definition of the word.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:55 pm So does that mean we can call tfg a convicted rapist?

bob wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 4:01 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:55 pm So does that mean we can call tfg a convicted rapist?

No; he was never criminally convicted.

He was "found liable for rape, as the term is commonly used, and not under the narrow definition in New York criminal law." A phrase that flows like a mountain stream.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:55 pm If you look closer you can see it..

Yes it is to correct scale.

Ted Lieu Reads Judge's Ruling Rejecting Fmr. Pres. Trump's Request for New Trial in E. Jean Carroll Case

Rep. Ted Lieu reads a judge's ruling rejecting former President Trump's request for a new trial in the E. Jean Carroll civil defamation case.

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal
Ex-president claimed that writer defamed him when saying he raped her, but judge said term is commonly ‘used and understood’ in context

Martin Pengelly
Mon 7 Aug 2023 21.33 BST

Donald Trump suffered another legal reversal on Monday, losing his counterclaim for defamation against E Jean Carroll, the writer against whom he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and fined $5m, and who continues to pursue a separate defamation case against him.

Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... an-carroll

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
JUST IN: Judge Kaplan grants "partial summary judgment" to Jean CARROLL in her second lawsuit against Donald Trump.

Trial will be limited to determining damages:

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:37 pm Isn't it Finland where fines (such as for speeding) are linked to income? I want to say I saw a $100k+ speeding ticket there once. Perhaps punitive damages should be linked to a percentage of income, as opposed to just a number. $100k would hurt me very badly, but tfg would sneeze at it. Probably.

Volkonski wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:08 pm Well, Trump claims to be rich as Croesus so the damages could be substantial and not impoverish him.