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Our moron Indiana senator complaining about the price while at the pump getting gas for his apparently invisible car. The replies in the twitter thread are not polite.
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Jo 🌻 @JoJoFromJerz wrote: HOLY SHIT. Shell has reported profits of $9.5 billion for the third quarter compared to $4.1 billion in the same quarter last year.

But tell me more about how high gas prices are Joe Biden’s fault, won’t you.

FFS.
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Just an FYI -

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I filled up with gas at Costco yesterday and paid $2.96/gallon. :dance:
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Haha..
Biden was flexing and showing the Democratic Party could evade a Red Wave without low gas prices and NOW he reaches to the Gas Price Dial (where the Diet Coke Button used to be) and lowers pump prices. Audacious…!
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https://twitter.com/whcos/status/1603865800804536320
Ronald Klain @WHCOS wrote: By selling oil from the SPR at $96/barrel, we helped reduce the price of gas when it was at its highest.

Now, by refilling the SPR at today's much lower prices, we turn a profit for the taxpayers.
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Once again, something the RWNJs screamed "fiscally irresponsible!!1!" about earns the treasury a profit.
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Got gas for $2.83 this morning. Thanks Biden!
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Yeah, $3.03 around here. Pretty fair.
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$2.59 fill up yesterday. $2.49 if I'd gone to Kroger and used my points.
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Dropped below $3 in my neck of the woods a couple of days after I filled up Dr. Vicklund's car for $3.15. Only the fourth fill-up this year, not expecting another until next year.
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Lowest prices here are about $2.50.
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C'mon, I remember $.29 a gallon. :lol:
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$2.83 at my nearby Costco.
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U.S. oil refiners restoring lost output, some outages to run into January

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U.S. oil refiners on Tuesday were working feverishly to resume operations at a dozen facilities knocked offline by a holiday deep freeze, a recovery that in some cases will stretch into January.

An Arctic blast sent temperatures well below freezing and led to power, instrumentation and steam losses at facilities along the U.S. Gulf Coast. The affected plants process about 3.58 million barrels of oil per day, delivering about 20% of U.S. motor fuels.

Refiners had been running near full capacity with strong prices for diesel and other fuels. Retail gasoline prices ticked up along the Gulf Coast this week, but nationwide prices have not been affected by the temporary outages.

Most of the affected plants suffered minor damage. Temperatures fell as low as 17 Fahrenheit (minus 8 Celsius) along the Gulf Coast - freezing some instruments and overwhelming steam and co-generation units at several facilities, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Late last week.

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Sounds like a cursed refinery. Or a poorly managed one. From last year.
2 WORKERS INJURED IN EXXONMOBIL BAYTOWN REFINERY FIRE FILE $10 MILLION LAWSUIT
Tuesday, December 28, 2021

The lawsuit also appears to be giving a glimpse into what happened the day of the fire. Here's what we know.
BAYTOWN, Texas (KTRK) -- Two of the employees injured in a massive fire at ExxonMobil's Baytown refinery on Dec. 23 want $10 million from the company.

The lawsuit claims employees were working to stop a pipe leak.

It says one worker hit the pipe with a wrench, creating a spark, which ignited a flammable gas called Naphthalene.

In total, four workers were hurt.

The two men who filed the lawsuit claim they were forced to jump 20 feet to safety and suffered spinal and head injuries.

The lawsuit claims ExxonMobil did not take appropriate precautions to protect employee safety and did not provide proper safety equipment.
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As far as the recent freeze goes just about every refinery and petrochemical plant along the Houston Ship Channel flared since their systems were not designed for such cold weather nor will they be. Too expensive for events that occur rarely.

In my experience ExxonMobil provides the finest safety equipment available.

Why were they trying to stop a leak at the location of the leak? They should have evacuated. The flow of flammable material should have been stopped at a safe upstream location. Then once the material dissipated the leak would be fixed. That is how I was trained by EM. In case of a leak or fire evacuate immediately. When safe, then report it.
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Gas prices could reach $4 by April — 'maybe sooner': Analyst

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Wed, January 25, 2023 at 8:34 PM GMT+1

Get ready for gas prices to rise again going into spring. A gallon of driving fuel could go back above $4, according to GasBuddy petroleum analyst Patrick De Haan.

"It's a question of when, not if. I think something like that could happen by potentially April, maybe sooner," said De Haan.

"I think motorists are going to start getting squeezed more so in late February. The next three weeks could be a bit of a mixed bag," he said.

De Haan points to planned breaks in production at refineries as part of the reason for a rise in prices.

"We have a pretty heavy amount of refinery turnarounds that is going to start here in the next couple of weeks. That is going to lead to a diminished amount of gasoline supply," he said.

"With China reopening you can’t underscore it enough," he said.

"The U.S. economy — when we reopened saw a level of pent up demand," added De Haan. "The same would apply in China. That is likely to chart our course for the next 3-6 weeks."

The national average of retail gasoline is at $3.41 per gallon, compared to $3.10 a month ago, according to AAA.




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Driving 100 Miles in an EV Is Now More Expensive Than in an ICE

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Thu, January 26, 2023 at 1:00 AM GMT+1

No longer needing to buy gasoline is one of the most convincing selling points for potential electric vehicle customers. It’s easy to conclude that owning an EV and recharging at home is cheaper than using a car powered by an internal combustion engine. The conclusion is correct if a driver switches powertrains between luxury vehicles, like going from a Porsche Macan to an electric Porsche Taycan.

However, a recent report from the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) found that fueling costs from mid-priced ICE-powered vehicles are lower than similarly priced electric vehicles. Combustion drivers pay about $11.29 per 100 miles on the road. EV drivers who charge up at home spend about $11.60 per 100 miles. The price difference is more dramatic for those who mainly recharge at stations. Frequent charging station users pay $14.40 per 100 miles.



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Of course, they include the cost of the charger for the EV, but not the cost of oil changes or other maintenance. An annual $35 oil change would wipe out the difference.
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:41 pm Of course, they include the cost of the charger for the EV, but not the cost of oil changes or other maintenance. An annual $35 oil change would wipe out the difference.
Yep. And what is the life span of the batteries in an EV? What is the replacement cost when it comes to that? I've never had to replace a gas tank on a car.
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neonzx wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:01 pm
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:41 pm Of course, they include the cost of the charger for the EV, but not the cost of oil changes or other maintenance. An annual $35 oil change would wipe out the difference.
Yep. And what is the life span of the batteries in an EV? What is the replacement cost when it comes to that? I've never had to replace a gas tank on a car.
I've had to replace two gas tanks in cars, but that was from driving like an idiot over dirt roads in low slung speed machines.

But yeah, it would be interesting to see a full, say five year cost analysis. Also, most people around here have solar, so they are paying nothing (or next to nothing) for the energy to charge their EVs.
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neonzx wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:01 pm
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:41 pm Of course, they include the cost of the charger for the EV, but not the cost of oil changes or other maintenance. An annual $35 oil change would wipe out the difference.
Yep. And what is the life span of the batteries in an EV? What is the replacement cost when it comes to that? I've never had to replace a gas tank on a car.
A better comparison would be replacing the engine, which is at least the same or higher than the cost of a new battery.
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