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Commanding Officer
LIEUTENANT COLONEL STUART P. SCHELLER
LtCol Stuart P. Scheller graduated from the University of Cincinnati with a bachelors in accounting. He began Officer Candidate School in January 2005. After completing Officer Candidate School, The Basic School, and Infantry Officer Course, he checked into 1st Battalion, 8th Marines in December 2005.

After checking into 1st Battalion, 8th Marines, and assuming the duty of platoon commander, LtCol Scheller conducted a deployment on the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit. He participated in the Non-Combatant Evacuation of American citizens out of Beirut during the 2006 Israeli/Lebanese conflict. Then the following year, he was assigned the role of Alpha Company Executive Officer and deployed to Ramadi, Iraq. Of note, during that time the infantry companies moved to a four infantry platoon construct, so LtCol Scheller, in addition to his Company Executive Officer duties, was also the Fire Support leader, and also served in this capacity during a Mojave Viper and the Ramadi deployment.

Paul McLeary @paulmcleary
Update on LtCol Scheller situation: USMC says tonight they’re “taking appropriate action to ensure the safety and well-being of LtCol Scheller and his family” indicating concern over his mental health
7:32 PM · Aug 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:26 am This is really, really sad to me. He has 2+ years before he can retire. He needs to be out; I can’t imagine the Marine Corps keeping him around. On the other hand, I could see them warehousing him somewhere for those two or three years or offering him a medical retirement if he agrees to go now-ish.

What I suspect is going to happen is he’s going to put his resignation paperwork and, and the higher ups are going to sit on it, they’re going to make him see a counselor, they’re not going to act on it right away. Because they are not going to want to see him throw his retirement away. But if he keeps posting shit like this, they’ll be less sympathetic.

All this being said, the point is that Scheller isn’t an anomaly. This is a persistent problem that has been allowed to continue within the armed forces. Many marines are voicing support for Scheller. The networks are already in place for escalation, this is a powder keg

filly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:05 am

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:26 am This is really, really sad to me. He has 2+ years before he can retire. He needs to be out; I can’t imagine the Marine Corps keeping him around. On the other hand, I could see them warehousing him somewhere for those two or three years or offering him a medical retirement if he agrees to go now-ish.

What I suspect is going to happen is he’s going to put his resignation paperwork and, and the higher ups are going to sit on it, they’re going to make him see a counselor, they’re not going to act on it right away. Because they are not going to want to see him throw his retirement away. But if he keeps posting shit like this, they’ll be less sympathetic.

Does the military have some equivalent to a 5150? His threats seem more dangerous than a response putting him in outpatient counseling would seem to dictate.

filly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:05 am Does the military have some equivalent to a 5150? His threats seem more dangerous than a response putting him in outpatient counseling would seem to dictate.

filly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:44 am Thanks. I would think that if he makes good on his threats and kills a bunch of people in the process, it is worth jumping those hoops.

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:59 am

filly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:44 am Thanks. I would think that if he makes good on his threats and kills a bunch of people in the process, it is worth jumping those hoops.

I don’t disagree. I’m only saying that there are hoops. Naval Justice School was a long time ago, so I don’t recall specifically what they were. I’m sure the Marines are jumping through them.

Domenico wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:43 am

filly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:05 am Does the military have some equivalent to a 5150? His threats seem more dangerous than a response putting him in outpatient counseling would seem to dictate.

Section 8? Is that a real thing or is that just on M*A*S*H?

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:26 am This is really, really sad to me. He has 2+ years before he can retire. He needs to be out; I can’t imagine the Marine Corps keeping him around. On the other hand, I could see them warehousing him somewhere for those two or three years or offering him a medical retirement if he agrees to go now-ish.

What I suspect is going to happen is he’s going to put his resignation paperwork and, and the higher ups are going to sit on it, they’re going to make him see a counselor, they’re not going to act on it right away. Because they are not going to want to see him throw his retirement away. But if he keeps posting shit like this, they’ll be less sympathetic.

orlylicious wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:10 pm

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:26 am This is really, really sad to me. He has 2+ years before he can retire. He needs to be out; I can’t imagine the Marine Corps keeping him around. On the other hand, I could see them warehousing him somewhere for those two or three years or offering him a medical retirement if he agrees to go now-ish.

What I suspect is going to happen is he’s going to put his resignation paperwork and, and the higher ups are going to sit on it, they’re going to make him see a counselor, they’re not going to act on it right away. Because they are not going to want to see him throw his retirement away. But if he keeps posting shit like this, they’ll be less sympathetic.

Maybenaut, totally agree how sad this is. In the video he discusses the warehousing idea and said he's rejecting that. He said he won't be mothballed quietly for a few years. He doesn't want his "several million dollar" pension or benefits. RWNJ Twitter are clueless that not expressing political opinions is not a new policy, they just rush to black and white, good or bad, and can't wait for any opportunity to rage. Now everybody has seen they can make a fortune on GoFundMe or GiveSendGo, this business of rewarding bad behavior really needs to be dealt with by Congress, there shouldn't be a profit motive for this. Hope the Marines take control of this quickly and get him help, but we saw what happened to Terry Lakin.

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:52 pm Can I ask upon what evidence we are assuming this is a mental health thing, rather than an extremist beliefs thing?

Nidal Hassan was not mentally ill, he was an Islamic extremist. Without any evidence to the contrary, I'm thinking the same thing about this guy. And, frankly, I'm really tired of veterans of a certain skin color voicing extreme views or behaving inappropriately (the recent veteran attacking airport personnel comes to mind) and immediately being excused because of mental illness or PTSD.

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:02 pm

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:52 pm Can I ask upon what evidence we are assuming this is a mental health thing, rather than an extremist beliefs thing?

Nidal Hassan was not mentally ill, he was an Islamic extremist. Without any evidence to the contrary, I'm thinking the same thing about this guy. And, frankly, I'm really tired of veterans of a certain skin color voicing extreme views or behaving inappropriately (the recent veteran attacking airport personnel comes to mind) and immediately being excused because of mental illness or PTSD.

I don’t necessarily think it *is* a mental health thing. But this kind of behavior is *exceptionally unusual* for a Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines. It may well be that they guy is just an asshole who wants to throw his career away. But I can pretty much guarantee that the Marine Corps is going to find out one way or the other whether he’s just a dick or whether there’s something else going on before they put him out.