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Somebody (I forgot who and I'm too lazy to look it up) asked a question about a female pope in the Religious Humor thread.

Suranis answered and I'm focusing on the bits in her answer I'm interested in:
Lets look at the question with some seriousness

Well firstly, there is pretty much zero chance that the College of Cardinals is going to elect someone that is not one of them. BUT there is no technical reason under canon law why they couldn't, and Commoners have been elected Pope before. Not for hundreds of years. but only Italians were elected Pope for hundreds of Years before John Paul II as well

And there is no reason why, under canon law, why that commoner cannot be a Woman. Or a Nun. Do they count as women to certain people? Answers on the back of a $10 note to...
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No, if you want a female Pope you need to start doing things like nominating worthy candidates to the Cardinals. It's a political process, and you have to do it politically. Don't expect them to nominate a Woman over other worthy candidates just because its a Woman. Present worthy candidates. Credit the fact the people involved are intelligent and that this is a serious matter, and behave like its serious. Then people will listen seriously.
OK, so according to you, there is no technical reason a Woman cannot be the Pope.

Except that the Pope is not 'just' the 'Head of State' of the Vatican State and the head of the Church, the Pope is first of all the 'Bishop of Rome' And don't Bishops have to be Priests? Yes. Yes they do. A Bishop is a 'kind' of priest. (Just as not all dogs are dachshunds but all dachshunds are dogs; so too not all Priests are Bishops, but all Bishops are Priests).

According to Andrew Boyd: Professor of Ecumenism and Interreligious Dialogue at the Pontifical Beda College, Rome in reply to a question on Quora
To be elected bishop of Rome, you have to be:
  1. Male
  2. At least 35 years of age
  3. A fully initiated Catholic in good standing
Those are the only canonical, non-negotiable requirements. Other canonical requirements for bishops include:[1]
  1. At least five years experience as a presbyter
  2. A doctorate in theology or canon law, or similar subject
  3. A good reputation
Many of these have exceptions either built into the law or in practice, however. “Good reputation” is too subjective to be meaningful. Even the current pope, as well as many bishops, does not have a doctorate.
...
If he is not yet a bishop (whether he is deacon, priest, or lay) he will be ordained bishop immediately after election.[3] So, to be elected pope, one need not be a cardinal nor even ordained, but to be pope, in fact, one cannot be simply a priest (a presbyter), but must be a bishop.
To sum up my thoughts, the Pope is a Bishop. Since women cannot be Priests, women cannot be Bishops and ipso facto cannot be the Bishop of Rome.

To quote Dr. Boyd again: (another Quora post that I can't figure out how to link)
In various questions, a lot of misunderstanding of the office, title, and various roles of the pope is displayed. I hope this summary of a longer article I’m working on will clarify a bit:

The pope is bishop of Rome.

All other titles and offices are derivative of that one fact:
So yes, things have changed over the years, (like the minimum age, non-cardinals have been elected (600 years ago), non-Bishop(500 years ago); laymen (200 years ago and was ordained immediately) but according to CURRENT canonical law, the Pope CANNOT be female.
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it's sufficient when the names are known at the Pearly Gates :twisted:
Massachusetts diocese publishes nameless clergy abuse report

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Mon, February 6, 2023 at 10:38 PM GMT+1

A Roman Catholic Diocese that covers central Massachusetts has published a new report about clergy sexual abuse of minors between 1950 and 2022, but unlike similar reports released by many other dioceses, the report did not include the names of the priests who were found to have committed abuse.

In the report made public Friday, Bishop Robert McManus of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Worcester said he felt releasing the names “will not accurately reflect the various concerns and outcomes.”

McManus said that in addition to reporting every allegation to law enforcement, the diocese publishes information on its website about every priest who has been placed on leave due to a credible report of abuse or who has been removed from clerical duties.

“Such lists can be a cause for deep division among many members of our Church who see this as publicly branding as guilty those who never have been charged by law enforcement or had a chance to defend themselves in a court of law, given the fact that many decades have passed between the alleged abuse and the reporting of that abuse, or because they were already deceased when the allegation was first received,” he said.

The new report updates a 2004 report that covered 1950 until 2004. It found there were 209 allegations of priest sexual abuse over the 72-year period. Of those, 173 were found to be credible, 28 were unsubstantiated and eight were false or withdrawn.

Boston Attorney Mitchell Garabedian, who has worked on many priest abuse cases for decades, called the report a “a self-serving document” by a diocese that “has allowed the wholesale sexual abuse of children for decades.”

As the Catholic Church across the country and worldwide comes to terms with a legacy of the sexual abuse of minors, it has become relatively common for dioceses to release the names of the priests who were found to be involved.

According to the Massachusetts-based organization BishopAccountability.org, which describes itself as a watchdog group that pushes for transparency in priest sex abuse, 160 dioceses and 29 religious orders across the country have released lists. As of Friday, the group listed 14 dioceses that had not published lists of accused priests. The list included Worcester.

BishopAccountability.org President Terence McKiernan said the decision of the Worcester Diocese to not release the names was surprising because so many dioceses across the country have released names with lists of the priests involved. He said the Worcester Diocese has a history of “circling the wagons” that began in the late 1990s when a local reporter began writing about the issue.

“They just have never changed their tune, basically,” he said.

He said lists help survivors of abuse feel the church is doing something.

“When you don’t have a list these days, you’re saying you don’t care. And that’s a very hurtful thing for survivors,” he said. “It’s also very valuable to have a list because survivors feel sad, but glad that they are confirmed to have company in what they’re going through.”





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RICHMOND, Va. (WSET) — In a strongly worded letter, Virginia Attorney General Jason Miyares, joined by 19 other attorneys general, sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland condemning the release of a leaked anti-Catholic internal memorandum created by the FBI Richmond field office.

The memo, which became public on February 8, targets Catholics as potential threats due to their religious beliefs and is a cause for concern among the attorneys general.

The memo, which distinguishes between acceptable and unacceptable Catholic beliefs and practices, seams to suggest that Catholics who prefer a traditional Latin mass and pre-Vatican II teachings are "radical-traditionalists" who could be "racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists." The document further implies that the FBI should develop "sources with access" in "places of worship," suggesting that the FBI may begin recruiting Catholics to spy on their fellow worshippers.
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That's really bad.
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Is that unfair? My recollection is that the old rites people in France under (iirc) an Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre were an unpleasant bunch with neo-fascist leanings. I might be mistaken; church politics in France in the 1980s is not my specialist subject.

Of course that does not make any individual guilty by association, but it might mean that the group collectively is worth watching more carefully.

As for the Old Believers in the Russian Orthodox Church… no, let's not go there.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Clergy sex abuse suits could bankrupt San Diego diocese

Sat, February 11, 2023 at 2:32 AM GMT+1

SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego said Friday it may declare bankruptcy in the coming months as it faces “staggering" legal costs in dealing with some 400 lawsuits alleging priests and others sexually abused children.

In a letter that was expected to be shared with parishioners this weekend, Bishop Robert McElroy said the cases were filed after California lifted a statute of limitations on childhood sexual abuse claims.

Assembly Bill 218, which was signed into law in 2019, allows alleged victims to sue up until age 40. Also, beginning in 2020, it opened a three-year window for filing lawsuits without age limitations.

Most of the alleged abuse cited in the suits took place 50 to 75 years ago, and the earliest claim dates to 1945, Kevin Eckery, communications director for the diocese, said at a Friday news conference, KNSD-TV reported.

Eckery predicted that it would cost the diocese $550 million to settle the cases, none of which have gone to trial.

In his letter, the bishop said none of the suits involve allegations against any currently serving priest.

“This reflects the reality that the Church has taken enormous steps to root out the sexual abuse of minors in its life and to promote the protection of minors," McElroy wrote.

Even so, the diocese is facing “staggering" legal costs and most of its assets were used to settle previous allegations with a $198 million payout in 2007, McElroy wrote.

“Even with insurance, the diocese will not be able to pay out similar sums now," the letter said. “This challenge is compounded by the fact that a bill has now been introduced into the Legislature that seeks to eliminate the statute of limitations entirely, leaving the diocese vulnerable to potential lawsuits forever."




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Sam the Centipede wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:15 pm Of course that does not make any individual guilty by association, but it might mean that the group collectively is worth watching more carefully.
Perhaps they are more worth watching, but the problems I have are with the FBI deciding what are acceptable and unacceptable practices for any faith, and asking people to spy on fellow worshippers *in church*. Signs that someone might be a risk are going to be observable outside the church as well, and asking someone to report on a friend's or acquaintance's general (as opposed to specifically religious) behavior is ok.

Also, saying that
Catholics who prefer a traditional Latin mass and pre-Vatican II teachings are "radical-traditionalists" who could be "racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists."
is a pretty sweeping statement. There are likely a lot of older Catholics who may prefer the old ways for reasons that have nothing to do with any kind of extremism.

Of course, part of my concern stems from how easily the FBI could target my faith in a similar way, suggesting that Heathens who consider themselves "Odinists" or "Wotanists" could be "racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists" because a lot of the violent, fascist, white supremacist Heathen groups do focus on Odin. There are a lot of Inclusive Heathens, however, who also consider themselves Odinists. The FBI would be better served by seeking to find out who have white supremacist tattoos or engage in nakedly racist behavior in public, own several weapons, often speak in violent terms and so on - all things that can be observed without taking their professed religious beliefs into account.

Didn't we learn anything from the fallout of the NYPD targeting Muslims and trying to get eyes into the mosques following 9/11?

‘Who Else Is Spying on Me?’ Muslim Americans Bring the Fight Against Surveillance to the Supreme Court
Post-9/11 surveillance has left a generation of Muslim Americans in a shadow of distrust and fear
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Super Bowl 2023: Who’s behind those ‘He Gets Us’ ads about Jesus?

Television, internet, and billboard ads encouraging people to take a deeper look at Jesus have been running across the U.S. since March, thanks to the nondenominational Christian campaign He Gets Us.

With a $100 million price tag, including $20 million spent on two Super Bowl spots, He Gets Us is an initiative of the Servant Foundation. The foundation is managed by the Kansas-based foundation and donor-advised fund The Signatry.

“Funding for He Gets Us comes from a diverse group of individuals and entities with a common goal of sharing Jesus’ story authentically,” Jason Vanderground, spokesperson for He Gets Us, told CNA Dec. 2.

The specific donors are tough to discover. In March, Christianity Today reported that the funds came from “a small group of wealthy anonymous families.”

The Signatry was founded in the year 2000 by Bill High, a Kansas lawyer turned philanthropic adviser. The fund has received more than $4 billion in contributions and has helped make more than $3 billion in charitable grants, its website says.

According to its website, The Signatry funds “discipleship and outreach efforts, Bible translations, cultural care, church plants, anti-human-trafficking missions, student ministries, poverty alleviation, clean water initiatives, and so much more.”

The He Gets Us website describes its campaign as “a movement to reintroduce people to the Jesus of the Bible and his confounding love and forgiveness. We believe his words, example, and life have relevance in our lives today and offer hope for a better future.”

The organization says it is not a political organization of any kind and has no church or denominational affiliation.

“We simply want everyone to understand the authentic Jesus as he’s depicted in the Bible — the Jesus of radical forgiveness, compassion, and love,” its website says.
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Well, that is a Super Bowl ad I will not be watching.

And I have no horse in this race, but I'm rooting for the KC Chiefs to lose... just because I can't stand how Patrick Mahomes gives all glory and grace to doG for his career sucess. Sorry, but even if doG is real, I doubt she has much interest in a stupid sport designed to hurt players. :twisted:

I won't be watching the game, but will catch the commercials on YouTube. (not the catholic stuff). The commercials are really the only interesting things worth watching.
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neonzx wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:26 am Well, that is a Super Bowl ad I will not be watching.

And I have no horse in this race, but I'm rooting for the KC Chiefs to lose... just because I can't stand how Patrick Mahomes gives all glory and grace to doG for his career sucess. Sorry, but even if doG is real, I doubt she has much interest in a stupid sport designed to hurt players. :twisted:

I won't be watching the game, but will catch the commercials on YouTube. (not the catholic stuff). The commercials are really the only interesting things worth watching.
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PCC cancels Grammy Award-winning King's Singers concert due to ‘lifestyle concerns'

Brandon Girod and Brittany Misencik, Pensacola News Journal
Tue, February 14, 2023 at 5:50 PM GMT+1

The King’s Singers, a Grammy Award-winning British a capella vocal ensemble, announced Monday that their planned concert at Pensacola Christian College was abruptly canceled two hours before the show due to “lifestyle” concerns.

In a statement posted on their website, the group stated that the Feb. 11 concert was due to “concerns related to the sexuality of members of our group.”

“We have performed at Pensacola Christian College before and we entered into the engagement in the knowledge that this is a fundamentalist Christian Institution. Our belief is that our music can build a common language that allows people with different views and perspectives to come together.”

Pensacola Christian College provided a more in-depth justification for the cancelation in a social media post on Monday, stating that the college cannot “knowingly” endorse anything that violates Scripture.

The college’s explanation referenced how the religious liberal arts institution is founded and guided by the Bible, as the reflected in the college’s Articles of Faith, leading to the dilemma.

“PCC canceled a concert with The King’s Singers upon learning that one of the artists openly maintained a lifestyle that contradicts Scripture,” the statement said. “The highly talented musicians were treated with dignity and respect when informed of the cancellation. The artists stated their understand and acceptance of the change and were given full remuneration.

The ensemble has previously performed at PCC without issue.

According to the group, this is the first time in its 55-year history that they canceled for reasons beyond bad weather, the COVID-19 pandemic or war.




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The PCC said:
Pensacola Christian College … is a fundamentalist Christian Institution.
I like the way that "fundamentalist" is a euphemism for "not".

I'm no bible scholar, but I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't preach "be prejudiced, be judgmental, shun who differ from you, spread hate and be hypocritical".
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:34 am
I'm no bible scholar, but I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't preach "be prejudiced, be judgmental, shun who differ from you, spread hate and be hypocritical".
But Republican Jesus does...
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Indeed, that is the magic of some religious beliefs. When a young person, it confused me how religious adherents couldn't see the absurdity in the inconsistency of beliefs between followers of the same deity, why they didn't wonder why they couldn't agree, unless they were horrible enough to assume the involvement of an additional malign deity (that their better deity was apparently impotent against). Why wouldn't a god pass the same message to all its followers?

Then came the realisation that religions are always about in-groups and out-groups, and the important human urge – even need – to feel part of a group. In-groups often define themselves by irrelevant or silly details that contrast with their out-groups: how one dresses: head covered or not?, how one makes religious signs: which fingers does one hold up or curl when making the sign of the cross? details of doctrine: is the host consubstantial or transubstantial at a eucharist (rejecting the most plausible interpretation, that it's symbolic).

And we see that in the quasi-religion of Trumpism (blessed be his orangeness, may his mushroom stay strong): followers screaming about stolen elections etc. even though most (especially the professional politicians) surely know that this is a falsehood. The minority who speak up against the stolen elections nonsense are cast into the wilderness, they have failed that in-group test.

The followers of Republican Jesus are just as Christian as followers of Catholic Jesus, Orthodox Jesus, Quaker Jesus, Amish Jesus, etc. Each takes what they wish and declares it righteous. The good people take the love and peace, the bad people take the shunning and smiting.

Fundamentalists? Yuk.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:24 am Indeed, that is the magic of some religious beliefs. When a young person, it confused me how religious adherents couldn't see the absurdity in the inconsistency of beliefs between followers of the same deity, why they didn't wonder why they couldn't agree, unless they were horrible enough to assume the involvement of an additional malign deity (that their better deity was apparently impotent against). Why wouldn't a god pass the same message to all its followers?

Then came the realisation that religions are always about in-groups and out-groups, and the important human urge – even need – to feel part of a group. In-groups often define themselves by irrelevant or silly details that contrast with their out-groups: how one dresses: head covered or not?, how one makes religious signs: which fingers does one hold up or curl when making the sign of the cross? details of doctrine: is the host consubstantial or transubstantial at a eucharist (rejecting the most plausible interpretation, that it's symbolic).

And we see that in the quasi-religion of Trumpism (blessed be his orangeness, may his mushroom stay strong): followers screaming about stolen elections etc. even though most (especially the professional politicians) surely know that this is a falsehood. The minority who speak up against the stolen elections nonsense are cast into the wilderness, they have failed that in-group test.

The followers of Republican Jesus are just as Christian as followers of Catholic Jesus, Orthodox Jesus, Quaker Jesus, Amish Jesus, etc. Each takes what they wish and declares it righteous. The good people take the love and peace, the bad people take the shunning and smiting.

Fundamentalists? Yuk.
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None of what Republican Jesus seems to be about anything remotely Christ centered. Hell, they all think he was white. Hahahaha!

Republican Jesus would fornicate with Chatty Cathy and is forgiven but condemn a homeless veteran, people on food stamps, or people who turn to drugs and alcohol. Republican Jeebus Crisp would never care about these leeches on society. And I won't even get started on the prosperity so-called doctrine.
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:yeahthat:

Too, also, "Republican Jesus" posited by Frater and the other Jesuses are definitely entries in the Fogbow Dictionary and Snarksaurus. :biggrin:
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:46 am :yeahthat:

Too, also, "Republican Jesus" posited by Frater and the other Jesuses are definitely entries in the Fogbow Dictionary and Snarksaurus. :biggrin:

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neonzx wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:26 am Well, that is a Super Bowl ad I will not be watching.

And I have no horse in this race, but I'm rooting for the KC Chiefs to lose... just because I can't stand how Patrick Mahomes gives all glory and grace to doG for his career sucess. Sorry, but even if doG is real, I doubt she has much interest in a stupid sport designed to hurt players. :twisted:

I won't be watching the game, but will catch the commercials on YouTube. (not the catholic stuff). The commercials are really the only interesting things worth watching.
I will go back and watch it only because I can't take sides unless I watch. I can't have a reasonable opinion if I don't. But I get It Neo.
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On Feb. 8, students at Asbury University gathered for their biweekly chapel service in the 1,500-seat Hughes Auditorium.

They sang. They listened to a sermon. They prayed.

Nearly a week later, many of them are still there.

“This has been an extraordinary time for us,” Asbury University President Kevin Brown said during a gathering on Monday, more than 120 hours into what participants have referred to as a spiritual revival.

The revival has disrupted life and brought national attention to Asbury, an evangelical Christian school in Wilmore, Ky., about a half-hour outside Lexington. Videos of students singing, weeping and praying have been posted on social media, leading to both criticism and praise from onlookers. News of the revival has also drawn students and other visitors to the campus to take part in the ongoing prayer and worship.

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Online accounts of the meetings at Asbury, he said, seem to “fit all the historical signposts of previous revivals.”

“I think a lot of people sense that America and American Christianity have lost its way,” he said. “And they seem to me that they are looking to get back to Jesus in a profound experiential way.”

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and a nonprofit entity that it controlled have been fined $5 million by the Securities and Exchange Commission over accusations that the religious institution failed to properly disclose its investment holdings.

In an order released Tuesday, the SEC alleged that the church illicitly hid its investments and their management behind multiple shell companies from 1997 to 2019. In doing so, it failed to disclose the size of the church’s equity portfolio to the SEC and the public.

The church was concerned that disclosure of the assets in the name of the nonprofit entity, called Ensign Peak Advisors, which manages the church's investments, would lead to negative consequences in light of the size of the church’s portfolio, the SEC said.

The allegations of the illicit shell company structure first emerged in 2018, when a group formerly called MormonLeaks – now known as the Truth and Transparency Foundation – claimed that year the extent of the church's investments had reached $32 billion.
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Southern Baptists oust Saddleback Church over woman pastor

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Tue, February 21, 2023 at 8:58 PM GMT+1

The Southern Baptist Convention on Tuesday ousted its second-largest congregation — Saddleback Church, the renowned California megachurch founded by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren — for having a woman pastor.

The vote by the convention's Executive Committee culminates growing tension between the nation's largest Protestant denomination — which officially opposes women as pastors — and a congregation whose story has been one of the biggest church-growth successes of modern times.

The committee cited Saddleback's having “a female teaching pastor functioning in the office of pastor," an allusion to Stacie Wood, wife of the current lead pastor of Saddleback, Andy Wood.

But the controversy began in 2021, when Warren ordained three women as pastors, prompting discussions within the denomination about possibly expelling the megachurch.




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‘Woodstock’ for Christians: Revival Draws Thousands to Kentucky Town
Over two weeks, more than 50,000 people descended on a small campus chapel to experience the nation’s first major spiritual revival in decades — one driven by Gen Z.

WILMORE, Ky. — Jennifer Palmer told her boss on Thursday morning that she had to leave work, and drove 11 hours straight from Jacksonville, Fla., to get here.

Jayden Peech, a high school student from a few hours away in Kentucky, came with his mother after listening to a speaker at their church. Valor Christian College in Ohio canceled classes, and almost the entire student body drove down in a bus, with no plans for where they would spend the night.

For two weeks, tens of thousands of people have made a pilgrimage to a tiny Christian college, about 30 minutes south of Lexington, for what some scholars and worshipers describe as the nation’s first major spiritual revival of the 21st century.

Drawn by posts on TikTok and Instagram, plus old-fashioned word of mouth, Christians from across the country poured through a chapel on the campus of Asbury University to pray and sing until the wee hours of the morning, lining up hours before the doors opened and leaving only when volunteers closed the chapel at 1 a.m. to clean it for the next day.
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NYT wrote:In recent years, the idea of revival has become a touchstone for some conservatives, including religious leaders who have advanced false accounts of election fraud and vaccine skepticism, and have claimed America is on the brink of a political and cultural revival.
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Pittsburgh bishop gives congregants special pass to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day, even though it falls on day Catholics aren't allowed to eat meat

Erin Snodgrass,Katherine Tangalakis-Lippert
Sat, February 25, 2023 at 8:23 AM GMT+1
  • Bishop David Zubik told Catholics they can eat meat during St. Patrick's Day this year.
    The holiday falls on a Friday during Lent, when Catholics are meant to avoid meat.
    Zubik suggested congregants consider a different sacrifice if they celebrate with a meaty meal.
A Pittsburgh bishop is allowing his congregants a religious "cheat day" next month when the feast of Saint Patrick falls on a Friday — the day of the week during which Catholics abstain from eating meat during the Lenten season.

Diocese of Pittsburgh Bishop David Zubik announced in a Friday letter that members of his religious community will be dispensed from the typical obligation to forgo meat on Friday, March 17 in honor of St. Patrick's Day.

"It is my hope that those who choose to avail themselves of the dispensation may do so in a spirit that reflects this holy season," Zubik wrote, citing the "great impact" Saint Patrick made on the people of Ireland and his own diocese.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/pittsburgh-b ... 26885.html
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