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notorial dissent wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:13 am On the other side of it, I hope the DOJ is doing a thorough colonoscopy of their finances and backers, that I think is where the entertainment value will be. They would have done Ernst Rohm proud.
Yes.

Rhodes worked with Richard Mack and Sam Bushman for over a decade, all regularly enjoying each other's company on Bushman’s show - including post 1/6. Recall the influence of the Sagebrush Reb/Smith Network on Mack & Bushman over the decades.

Bushman has been defending Rhodes, he and Mack discussing yesterday. Today, with Evangelical White Nationalist Edwards (Bushman produces Edward's show).

It seems Jan 6 & the Oathkeepers, to this subset, will be just a setback.

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AndyinPA wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:26 am
Oath Keepers planning to violently subvert the 2020 election stockpiled 30 days of supplies and a cache of rifles and ammunition just outside of Washington D.C., prosecutors alleged in a late-night court filing.

….”
30 days of supplies? WTAF? Were they going to camp in the rotunda?
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Did they remember french vanilla creamer this time?
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This may have been posted before, but Jessica Watkins has been charged with seditious conspiracy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp
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:popcorn: This just gets juicier and juicier. :popcorn:
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inisant is precious. I love literal spelling. It gives insight into their local pronunciation (vernacular).
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Spelling too I guess. ;)

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The second time I corrected Hubby when he pronounced "demur" "demure", I had to defuse and diffuse his irritation. :biggrin:
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FLASH: Judge orders accused Jan 6 seditious conspirator Edward Vallejo jailed until trial.. and transported to Washington DC for detention here

Different federal court and judge will hold detention hearing Monday for Vallejo's co-defendant Stewart Rhodes
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It’s odd to me, especially post-Vegas, that hotel staff don’t call things like bringing in massive amounts of stuff to attention of management, from which it should go to corporate or the franchise owner.
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They probably didn't bring it through the front entrance. In a hotel like that, there would be at least one back door out of sight. And since the hotels have fewer staff and pretty much don't go into rooms unless asked because of Covid protocols, their chances of sneaking things in were probably better than usual. Keeping it unseen for 30 days seems like a reach, though.
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He destroyed texts. Spent a bunch of moolah. Offered to reimburse others for their expenses.

Twitter thread. The filing is *linked, too.



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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... d=msedgntp
Two YouTube channels linked to the far-right extremist group Oath Keepers have been deactivated by the website, the Google subsidiary told Axios. It wasn't exactly due to the content of their videos, however, but because some of the group's members were charged with seditious conspiracy over their role in the January 6th, 2021 US Capitol breach. One of the deactivated channels was named "Oath Keepers" and had fewer than 45,000 subscribers, while the other belonged to group leader Stewart Rhodes and had fewer than 20 subscribers. Rhodes (pictured above) was arrested for his role in the attack and was one of the members who were charged.

YouTube spokesperson Ivy Choi told Axios that the channels broke the platform's creator responsibility guidelines. According to those guidelines, YouTube may terminate a channel if there's "significant evidence presented in a court of law against a creator for a very egregious crime" and that channel's "YouTube comment is closely related to the crime." YouTube said that the termination "follows evidence presented in federal indictments against the Oath Keepers and the charges against them and their role in the Jan. 6 attacks."

According to the Justice Department, the Oath Keepers discussed their plans to seize the Capitol building using encrypted messaging apps and social networks. The group has long used online platforms to disseminate information, including COVID-19 conspiracy theories with QAnon hashtags and threats of violence. Twitter banned the group back in 2020 for violating its policies on violent extremist groups. In addition to removing two channels, YouTube will no longer allow the Oath Keepers to create, use or own any other channel. Further, it will remove re-uploads of its old videos and will even delete new channels that try to reuse content from the deleted accounts.
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NEW: Court has scheduled Tuesday 11am hearing in the sweeping & distinctively high-level case of the accused OathKeeper Jan 6 seditious conspirators
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I missed this from yesterday's hearing.


NEW: the AUSA mentions texts sent by Vallejo that have not been cited previously:

1) during Jan 6, while in VA, he texted "we have taken the Capitol"
2) around the same time, he sent a text to someone in Arizona: "have you taken the Arizona capitol yet, slacker?
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Kendra wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:45 am I missed this from yesterday's hearing.


NEW: the AUSA mentions texts sent by Vallejo that have not been cited previously:

1) during Jan 6, while in VA, he texted "we have taken the Capitol"...
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Look at his prisoner number.
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TODAY: Detention hearing in high-level Jan 6 case of accused OathKeepers leader Stewart Rhodes, who is among the group charged with seditious conspiracy

Feds will argue "Rhodes set in motion his co-conspirators attack on the Capito
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pipistrelle wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:29 pm Look at his prisoner number.
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Scott MacFarlane wrote: US Justice Dept argued Stewart Rhodes "hatched and led a plot to oppose by force the execution of the laws governing the transfer of presidential power in the United States—including an attack on the Congress"

Judge says she'll need a day or two to rule on pretrial detention
Rob Legare @RobLegare wrote: Via @cbs11jack: Texas judge says she will rule in next 24-48 hrs if Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes should be detained pending trial.

He faces Jan 6 charges, including seditious conspiracy.

Gov wants him jailed, but Rhodes argued he can stay with his cousin during release.
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MORE: During hearing Rhodes’ atty told judge that Rhodes was cooperating with Jan. 6th Congressional Cmte & was set to testify Feb. 2nd. Prosecutors argued Rhodes a danger & flight risk. His attys disagreed, saying if such a danger why wasn’t he arrested til this month?
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His attys disagreed, saying if such a danger why wasn’t he arrested til this month?
I wonder if there's been a change of circumstances before his arrest and after that might have increased his likelihood to flee? :think:

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Stewie stays in custody until his trial.
In the order it says he is in a personal relationship with that Kellye SoRelle nut who is now supposedly in charge of the Oaf Keepers.
Opinion and order: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/62 ... -v-rhodes/
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Some interesting nuggets at this thread:

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