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Greatgrey wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am Everyone remember when Governor Hot Wheels sent the Texas National Guard to the border & immediately started having issues with the National Butterfly Center?

Well Marianna got one of them in some deep trouble. Seems a guardsman abandoned his weapon & truck, and she took the gun.

The anti-immigrant folks want her locked up, but it looks like she took a lot of precautions & was in contact with authorities the whole time.

The tweets aren’t threaded, you’ll have to visit her Twitter acct to get the whole thing, but here’s how it starts…
Seems to me that if Butterfly Warrior can easily grab a weapon from a soldier's running vehicle, so could an undocumented immigrant (and maybe even a gang banger) but sure, punish her for pointing out bad soldiering. That will surely help keep them dirty overly tanned immigrants away.

This is what happens when you go from concern and anger to hate. Hate can only be satiated by more hate. You no longer remember what you were angry with but only look for more to hate. Liberty and freedom are no more part of your world as hate does not share your mind or soul with anything else.
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We’ll said, Nortland. :clap:
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Butterfly lady is apparently getting a bunch of crap. What a surprise.
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:08 pm
neonzx wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:57 pm Living in South Florida gave me a big education. I'd say around 30% of those I hang with are immigrants and many are not technically legal. No, they are not bringing in the drugs, nor are they shooting your women nor raping your kids. They are decent people and I'm so sick of RW politicians painting them otherwise.
Similar growing up in AZ. Knew many not legal friends and their families. One thing they did NOT do was break the law! The very last thing they wanted to do was get picked up on some broken taillight charge or other nonsense and deported, much less a serious charge. They just wanted to do their thing, provide for their families (both in and outside the US), and stay under the radar.
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Several of my elementary school mates were definitely maintaining a low profile.

Nobody mentioned it - they just kept keeping on. But they didn't go to school field trips and they didn't go to birthdays and such. They probably did go out within their own tight knit community, but they didn't accept schoolmates invitations.
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Exclusive — Tom Homan: If Trump Wins, Many ‘Patriots’ Want to Serve in DHS, ‘Secure This Border,’ ‘Shut It Down Once and For All’

Tom Homan, former acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), said on Friday that he and many other “patriots” are ready and willing to serve in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to secure the southern border if former President Donald Trump runs in and wins the 2024 presidential election.
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An former acting director acting up. Of course he would again have a cushy job in D.C. and not be standing in the burning sands of a AZ desert patroling a rusting fence.
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Revealed: the contentious tool US immigration uses to get your data from tech firms
Documents show Ice has sent Google, Meta and Twitter at least 500 administrative subpoenas for information on their users

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Thu 25 May 2023 11.00 BST

The US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) sent tech giants including Google, Twitter and Meta at least 500 administrative subpoenas demanding sensitive personal information of users, documents reviewed by the Guardian show.

The practice highlights the vast amount of information Ice is trying to obtain without first showing probable cause. Administrative subpoenas are typically not court-certified, which means companies are not legally required to comply or respond until and unless a judge compels them to. The documents showed the firms handing over user information in some cases, although the full extent to which the companies complied is unclear.

It further highlights how broad of a net Ice is casting in its surveillance of migrants.

“When Ice gets subscriber data from Google or from Instagram they can combine that information with billions of other data points on hundreds of millions of US residents that they get access to from other companies,” said Hannah Lucal, data and tech fellow at Just Futures Law, one of the organizations that obtained the documents.

“While perhaps sounding benign or like a legal tool, administrative subpoenas are actually enabling very invasive Ice surveillance, not only of someone that the agency is targeting, but potentially also of anyone who might be communicating with that person on these tech platforms,” Lucal said.

The documents, which detail requests between 2018 and 2021, show most demands were related to the agency’s immigration enforcement efforts. A handful of cases were related to human smuggling and one was part of a murder investigation.

In the vast majority of cases, Ice demanded the companies hand over account information such as a person’s IP address over time and payment details.

In a few cases, the agency went much further, the documents show. In one instance, Ice asked Google for the account details behind a YouTube channel called Migrant Media, which shares resources about migrant issues (There are several channels with that name). In the subpoena, an Ice officer said the agency was seeking the names, addresses, screen names, payment and bill-face information “and any and all IP addresses associated w/ the YouTube page” as part of an ongoing “investigation or inquiry related to the enforcement of US immigration laws”. The subpoena did not provide any additional details on the nature of the inquiry. In another case, Ice asked Facebook for any location information associated with one account. And in yet another, Ice asked Facebook for “all public content photos, videos, wall posts, subscriber information and replies” associated with one user’s account.



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ICE adjacent. Don’t mess with the butterfly people!
National Butterfly 🦋 @NatButterflies wrote: Today, our executive director confronted & removed 2 @TexasDPS1 Troopers who entered our property unlawfully. They are told that as long as they are "assisting Border Patrol" the 4th Amendment doesn't apply. This is false. #Texas #TXLEGE #MaskedMan
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There's a lot of things that need to change. One specifically? Police brutality.
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Guatemalan detainee assaulted at Florida Ice center seeks justice
Multiple assaults, ‘coercion’ and visa denial for Andres Domingo raises concerns of systemic mistreatment in Ice detention centers

Rita Omokha
Thu 14 Sep 2023 11.00 BST

While detained at Miami’s Krome detention center, Andres Domingo was sexually assaulted multiple times.

An investigation by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) corroborated Domingo’s claims and his legal team said this automatically made the 25-year-old Guatemalan native eligible for a U-visa, according to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services regulation. Given to victims of sex crimes or any crime that leads to mental and psychological suffering or abuse, the U non-immigrant status allows victims to remain in the US. Yet, Domingo’s last request for the visa was denied on 25 August.

Domingo’s experience underscores the concerns surrounding the rising and systemic mistreatment of detainees in US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detention centers. It also raises questions about the effectiveness of the system and the protections it offers to vulnerable individuals in its custody.

On 26 January, Domingo reported he was sexually assaulted three separate times by three different detainees at Krome that month.



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TEXAS LEGISLATURE VOTES TO SEIZE IMMIGRATION AUTHORITY FROM FEDS
A major U.S. Supreme Court case could be on the horizon as the Lone Star State takes international matters into its own hands.


https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-leg ... from-feds/
On Tuesday evening, the Texas House passed Senate Bill 4—a precedent-shattering measure that grants immigration enforcement powers to state and local police, magistrates, and judges—possibly teeing up a major U.S. Supreme Court case down the road.

SB 4 had already passed the state Senate and now heads to the desk of Governor Greg Abbott, who had called for such a bill during the current special legislative session. The GOP-controlled House Tuesday passed the bill along party lines after rejecting two dozen Democratic amendments to clarify or weaken it.

“This legislation, Senate Bill 4, is a loophole; it is a hook thrown with the intent to unravel judicial precedent,” said Representative Victoria Neave Criado, a Dallas Democrat who chairs the Mexican American Legislative Caucus, on the House floor. “[It] is a usurpation of federal power, it is a condemnation of due process, and it is a repudiation of family values and family unity.”

The legislation would make it a misdemeanor crime for noncitizens to improperly enter Texas from a foreign nation—for example, by swimming across the Rio Grande from Mexico. After arrest, the bill empowers magistrates or judges to, with the arrestee’s consent, order the person to return to the nation from which they entered rather than face prosecution. An individual who declines this option faces up to six months in jail, after which they will be subject to an identical order to leave the country and likely be transported by police to the nearest international bridge. Refusing to comply with these self-deportation orders is a separate felony offense.

“[SB 4 is] a sweeping overreach of state authority allowing any law enforcement official to detain individuals and families merely suspected of crossing the border illegally,” said Houston Democratic Representative Armando Walle in a statement. “This legislation makes our communities less safe, codifies racial profiling, and will cost our counties millions in unfunded mandates.”

Throughout committee hearings on the legislation, immigration attorneys repeated in vain that the measure clearly violated the United States Constitution. In 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court reaffirmed in Arizona v. United States that the federal government exclusively controls the field of immigration enforcement. Ever since, that ruling has helped define the guardrails for interactions between police and undocumented immigrants, shielding the latter from state leaders in the throes of xenophobic reaction. Now, at the urging of Abbott and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, the Legislature is launching an attack on that juridical status quo.
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Greg Sargent @ThePlumLineGS wrote: Remarkable: The Trump presidency had zero impact on the number of undocumented immigrants in the US, according to new Pew data.
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The best parts of trump's presidency are the things he didn't do.
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I was just thinking how few new posts there are in this thread now that tfg and his “cruelty is the whole point” policies are gone.
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Trump and his Haters have little concern for actual results. Attacking opponents is considered winning. They want to be seen as tough fighters. It is often not the full-scale attack that wins the war but finding the small strategic movements that can move the needle. Only after years of tossing massive troops over the top and failing to accomplish anything did the Allies and Axis realize that they needed to plan differently. Germany realized the need for smaller focused movements; however, to their detriment, they also realized the need for resources to back up the movements.

Despite the lack of actual results, the anti-immigrant world adores the Douglas Haig method. A big wall is only a temporary barrier, and to accomplish big roundups, you have to go for the low-hanging fruit, which are not the dangerous ones we need to stop.

It's funny that for all their screaming about border security, they have yet to pass meaningful immigration legislation or even create much larger funding for enforcement (or any for the wall) despite even having two years of a GOP Congress and President.

I do see two types of "border security" folks in the GOP. These are not mutually exclusive groups, mind your.

1. Those who give lip service but don't want to change anything because they realize the positive economic impact undocumented workers have on some industries and the positive impact of rhetoric on their campaign contributions.

2. True believers who believe success is destroying their adversary, the immigrants. They don't respond to actual metrics of success but the emotion of attacking their adversaries. They respond to the fear of the other entering the country. Group One finds this Group Two useful for their own needs.
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Mainstream local media, not rwnj wack jobs.
Brahm Resnik @brahmresnik wrote: Scene near Lukeville AZ border crossing that was shut down today so @CBP could deal with huge surge of migrants.
Adam Klepp @AdamKleppAZ wrote: There’s hundreds of people who have been here for days and haven’t eaten. Everyone is extremely agitated. The situation feels like it is past the breaking point.
More at link: https://twitter.com/AdamKleppAZ
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So sad. So many immigrants. This does not just affect the immigrants but business owners on both sides of the border, children who cross the border to attend school in Ajo and many, many vacationers who head down to Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco) from Phoenix for the holidays. The little store in Why, The Why Not Travel Store, has stated that they will keep all their employees on and will continue to pay their full wages. What a mess. I really don’t think some our right wing legislators realize all that is involved regarding border issues.
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Lukeville remains shut down.
Adam Klepp @AdamKleppAZ wrote: As seen on TV - Lukeville, AZ (12/04/23)
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Adam Klepp @AdamKleppAZ wrote: Locals from the Mexico have shown up and are trying to sell water, soda, and powerade to the migrants. There is also a group of Mexican women who are bringing food and water for free.
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Hearing all over the airwaves that migrants are getting a backpack filled with goodies, a cell phone, a plane ticket anywhere in the US they want to go, and a $5k Visa gift card. I don't know what the original source of this is, but I find it pretty hard to believe. They are really full court pressing with it though. Here's Sheriff Lamb repeating it.
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raison de arizona wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:31 pm Hearing all over the airwaves that migrants are getting a backpack filled with goodies, a cell phone, a plane ticket anywhere in the US they want to go, and a $5k Visa gift card. I don't know what the original source of this is, but I find it pretty hard to believe. They are really full court pressing with it though. Here's Sheriff Lamb repeating it.
That's straight up bullshittery there...
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Total bs. How do they get away with it.
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We are in bad shape here. We need help. It’s untenable. The Border Czar needs to get her shit together and do something.
Community activist believes closure of Lukeville Port of Entry could result in border town deaths


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Community activist believes closure of Lukeville Port of Entry could result in border town deaths
Dec 6, 2023, 4:25 AM
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PHOENIX — A community activist who works with border towns believes there could be deaths if the Lukeville Port of Entry in Arizona doesn’t reopen soon.

Aaron Cooper, executive director of the International Sonoran Desert Alliance, told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s Gaydos and Chad Show on Tuesday that border town residents who rely on services in both the United States and Mexico could suffer the most.

“If it’s the difference between a 15-minute trip and a 10-hour round trip, I think people very well could die because if you’re trying to get to dialysis, a 10-hour round trip is not really feasible for you,” Cooper said.


Why is the Lukeville Port of Entry closed?

U.S. officials announced plans Friday to close the Lukeville Port of Entry indefinitely so resources could be focused on dealing with a surge of illegal crossings in the area. The closure started Monday.

U.S. officials announced plans Friday to close the Lukeville Port of Entry indefinitely so resources could be focused on dealing with a surge of illegal crossings in the area. The closure started Monday.
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From the First World Problems Department... Many neighbors and friends here in the Phoenix area have condos or other vacation homes in Rocky Point, Mexico. Normally, this would be a 3-3.5 hour drive, but with Lukeville closed, it has turned into a 7+ hour ordeal. People can't get to their vacation homes! The humanity! But yeah, the ripples of this are far reaching.
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