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I wouldn't get my hope up. November is five months away. People forget, and Abbott will be sure to pull a few rabbits out of his hat between now and then.

Now, if there is a significant power outage from ERCOT in September . . . .
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humblescribe wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:10 pm I wouldn't get my hope up. November is five months away. People forget, and Abbott will be sure to pull a few rabbits out of his hat between now and then.

Now, if there is a significant power outage from ERCOT in September . . . .
...or another mass shooting of school children.
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humblescribe wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:10 pm I wouldn't get my hope up. November is five months away. People forget, and Abbott will be sure to pull a few rabbits out of his hat between now and then.

Now, if there is a significant power outage from ERCOT in September . . . .
Or if there is another rural texas school shooting
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You all have a lot more faith than do I. If nineteen dead ten year olds don't move the dial, what are another group of dead children going to do? For that matter, if the twenty dead six year olds in Sandy Hook didn't move the dial, what do you think another group is going to do? Not much. There are a lot of people who believe in the Abbott/Paxton approach to gun violence, and any number of dead children are not going to change their minds.
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Or until a school one of their kids goes to has an incident.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:38 pm Or until a school one of their kids goes to has an incident.
I doubt that will change their view. It will just reinforce their existing ones. Taller fences. Less doors. More guns, why weren't ALL the teachers armed? Issue side arms in place of restroom passes. They aren't going to suddenly decide that mebbe Beto is right.
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Steve Scalise only doubled down after having his insides rearranged.
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:40 pm
Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:38 pm Or until a school one of their kids goes to has an incident.
I doubt that will change their view. It will just reinforce their existing ones. Taller fences. Less doors. More guns, why weren't ALL the teachers armed? Issue side arms in place of restroom passes. They aren't going to suddenly decide that mebbe Beto is right.
Mechanized automatic CIWS in the hallways. Put one of these bad boys at every intersection of hallways and all stair wells.

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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:34 pm You all have a lot more faith than do I. If nineteen dead ten year olds don't move the dial, what are another group of dead children going to do? For that matter, if the twenty dead six year olds in Sandy Hook didn't move the dial, what do you think another group is going to do? Not much. There are a lot of people who believe in the Abbott/Paxton approach to gun violence, and any number of dead children are not going to change their minds.
Moving the dial for a few politicians is much harder than moving the dial for thousands of ordinary people who vote. We're already moving the dial, albeit not nearly far or fast enough. Gun laws are appealing to one-issue voters more and more, and (based on polls and surveys) we outnumber the arm everyone gun nuts
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sugar magnolia wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:19 pm
humblescribe wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:10 pm I wouldn't get my hope up. November is five months away. People forget, and Abbott will be sure to pull a few rabbits out of his hat between now and then.

Now, if there is a significant power outage from ERCOT in September . . . .
...or another mass shooting of school children.
Well, I was trying to avoid a disaster of that magnitude and tragedy. But, yeah, Sugar.
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A major TX power outage is most likely in August.
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:34 pm You all have a lot more faith than do I. If nineteen dead ten year olds don't move the dial, what are another group of dead children going to do?
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Well, consider if it happened at a football game maybe?
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keith wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:20 am
raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:34 pm You all have a lot more faith than do I. If nineteen dead ten year olds don't move the dial, what are another group of dead children going to do?
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Well, consider if it happened at a football game maybe?
Crowd should have been armed. Only thing that could have stopped it. Do away with gun free zones.
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:46 pm Steve Scalise only doubled down after having his insides rearranged.
BUT, he survived and minimized what happened which trauma victims do. I think if it happened to one of his family members he might view it differently.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:15 am
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:46 pm Steve Scalise only doubled down after having his insides rearranged.
BUT, he survived and minimized what happened which trauma victims do. I think if it happened to one of his family members he might view it differently.
I don't. They are true believers, more gunz is always the answer to any shooting. Hardening of so-called targets, more good guys carrying, less gun free zones. Always. "If only someone had been able to take the shooter out..." Not, "If only the shooter had not had a gun."
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:14 pm
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:15 am
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:46 pm Steve Scalise only doubled down after having his insides rearranged.
BUT, he survived and minimized what happened which trauma victims do. I think if it happened to one of his family members he might view it differently.
I don't. They are true believers, more gunz is always the answer to any shooting. Hardening of so-called targets, more good guys carrying, less gun free zones. Always. "If only someone had been able to take the shooter out..." Not, "If only the shooter had not had a gun."
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Yeh. Y'all are right.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:53 pm Yeh. Y'all are right.
Well, in all honesty I really hope and pray that you are right and at least enough of them come to their senses enough to realize that we are the civilized country in the world with this problem to turn the tide. But I don't hold out hope. An example of what we are up against.
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One of the best expressions evah, and maybe on this forum, was how some gun owners are horny for their guns.
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It’s too bad Abbott’s not one of them gun-grabbing’ liberals the right is so askeered of. If he was we could call him GWAbbott.

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Phoenix520 wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:33 pm It’s too bad Abbott’s not one of them gun-grabbing’ liberals the right is so askeered of. If he was we could call him GWAbbott.

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We still can, who said it has to be about guns? He's a Republican, they're known for grabbing something else.... :thumbsup:
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Not quite Abbott, but...

https://www.newsweek.com/texas-secede-u ... um-1717254
Texas Republicans are pushing for a referendum to decide whether the state should secede from the U.S.

The demand for Texans to be allowed to vote on the issue in 2023 was one of many measures adopted in the Texas GOP's party platform following last week's state convention in Houston.

Under a section titled "State Sovereignty," the platform states: "Pursuant to Article 1, Section 1, of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right of local self-government. Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified.

"Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto."
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