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Kendra wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:40 pm
I mean, um, Roger Stone's own track record is so good?
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But, but, but....trump told me, after the first election, Bolsanaro won bigly - thanks to trump's support and promotion. I'm so confused.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Volkonski wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:03 am
“As of 9 a.m. local time Monday (8 a.m. E.S.T.), 13 hours after the race was called, Mr. Bolsonaro and his three politician sons, who are prolific users of social media, had not commented publicly since election results were announced.”
I'm sure it is because Bolsonaro is working hard on his concession speech. No? Hey, stop laughing! Stop Laughing!!
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Euronews had short interviews with Bolnasareo supporters, who were pretty eloquent and upset but they all accepted the results.

So the fact there is nothing from the man himself is kinda telling.
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If he's trying to scare people ...


... he's doing a great job. Hell, I'm scared, and I'm not going anywhere near Brazil in, y'know, ever.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Foggy wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:31 pm He's gonna show Trump how to do a coup. With shooting, I suspect.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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interesting - the US could learn from them ;)

Electronic Voting - CaseStudies
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Brazil is an example of a country with a thriving electronic voting system. In 2000, it became the first country to have elections completely by an electronic voting system and has since remained at the forefront of the electronic voting movement.

Electronic Voting Machines for Brazilian elections were developed and first tested in the 1996 elections in Santa Catarina. Thereafter it was used in national elections in 1998, when it then became the only voting method for the 2000, 2002, 2004, and the most recent 2006 elections.

Through these election cycles, the voting system has changed – most notably in the operation system running on the machines. This effort to constantly build upon and improve the voting system is likely part of the reason for its strong success. In Brazil, the research and development of electronic voting systems is funded by the Brazilian Supreme Electoral Court (TSE), which is also currently testing ways to improve the system, such as by using a digital screens and printing systems. These improvements likely have been a significant source of voter satisfaction, and will continue to emphasize the government’s commitment to a fair and effective system in the future.

Interestingly, the code for the software on the Electronic Voting Machines has not been released to the public, despite the call for freely available source code in many electronic voting circles. Just as in the majority of systems in place in the United States and France, companies are protecting this information, refusing to release it to the public under the protection of intellectual property rights.

As with any electronic system, security issues with Brazil’s voting systems are largely focused on the issue of voter verifiability. Pedro A. D. Rezende, from the Department. of Computer Science at the University of Brasilia has said that, “the most important democracy of our times is now debating the convenience and possible effects of legal measures enforcing voter verifiability in electronic systems” and that “Brazil is, indeed, ahead of its time.”

Brazil, it seems, has many positive factors working together to create a durable and trusted system for government and voters, alike. Although no election is ever without some controversy, Brazil has also maintained a relatively trouble-free experience with its electronic voting approach and serves as a good model for other similar countries looking to fully integrate these systems.
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Bolsonaro supporters try to storm police HQ in ‘January 6-style’ rampage

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... le-rampage

Fanatical supporters of Brazil’s outgoing president, Jair Bolsonaro, have torched cars and buses and tried to storm the federal police headquarters in the country’s capital in what one commentator called a botched attempt to spark a January 6-style turmoil.

The violence erupted on Monday evening after the leftwing politician who defeated Bolsonaro in October’s historic election – former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva – had his victory officially ratified by Brazil’s electoral court.

Extremists, many wearing the yellow Brazil shirts that symbolise the president’s far-right movement, confronting security forces outside a federal police headquarters. Police used stun grenades and teargas to disperse the crowd.
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maybe Trump can shack him up in a room next to the nuclear secrets
Outgoing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro will leave for Florida today, accompanied by several military generals. One of his aids tells journalist Rodrigo Rangel that the outgoing president has purchased a 1-way ticket. First Lady Michelle has decided to remain in Brazil. +
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Kendra wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:12 pm
maybe Trump can shack him up in a room next to the nuclear secrets
Outgoing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro will leave for Florida today, accompanied by several military generals. One of his aids tells journalist Rodrigo Rangel that the outgoing president has purchased a 1-way ticket. First Lady Michelle has decided to remain in Brazil. +
he's leaving Brazil w/GENERALS on a ONE-WAY flight? I don't like the sound of that - especially since he more than likely will be hanging w/Taxes Cheat.
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He and his generals are just taking the money and running..

It is what Donnie would have done - if fewer Americans excused his attempted coup.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-30/ ... /101816232

Brazil's Supreme Court bans guns from capital before Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's inauguration as police investigate coup attempt


Brazil's Supreme Court has banned registered gun-owners from carrying firearms in the federal district until after the inauguration of President-elect Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, in reaction to recent episodes of political violence.

Key points:
President-elect Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's team requested a firearms ban be enacted
Authorities are cracking down on a committed minority of Jair Bolsonaro's supporters
Brazilian police say they foiled a bomb plot in the capital city on Christmas Eve

The decision came as police said they had carried out nationwide raids as they investigated an alleged coup attempt during riots by supporters of defeated far-right President Jair Bolsonaro.

Police said at least two people have already been arrested.

Justice Alexandre de Moraes temporarily suspended licences permitting hunters, marksmen and collectors to carry guns, firearms and ammunition in the region of the capital city Brasilia.

The measure will be in place from Wednesday evening local time until January 2, the day after Mr Lula's inauguration, according to Justice Moraes's decision, which was reviewed by Reuters.

Tensions remain high in the South American country after the most fraught election in a generation, in which leftist Lula narrowly defeated far-right incumbent Jair Bolsonaro.
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:think: is this the reason why former president Bolsanaro was leaving the country with general in tow?
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Bolsonaro has now left Brazil and is in Orlando.
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He looks like he's waving to a crowd. Camera shows a couple dozen or so.
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:splat:

So, is he going to ask for amnesty?
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The New York Times :verified:
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Brazil inaugurates its new president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, on Sunday. The departing far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, has taken refuge in Orlando as he faces various investigations from his time in his office.
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AndyinPA wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:57 pm :splat:

So, is he going to ask for amnesty?
"Jair Bolsanaro, you've just applied for Amnesty! What are you going to do now?"

"I'm going to Disney World!"

I mean, he is in Orlando.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... -bolsonaro
Jair Bolsonaro’s wrecking of the Amazon made him a global outcast – but his acts of desecration were not limited to the rainforest.

A report by the Brazilian broadcaster GloboNews suggests that even the official presidential residence – a 1950s masterpiece by the architect Oscar Niemeyer – was defiled by the far-right politician during his four years in power.

One of the network’s leading political correspondents, Natuza Nery, took a tour of the Palácio da Alvorada (Palace of Dawn) on Thursday with Brazil’s new first lady, Rosângela Lula da Silva, and was unimpressed with what she saw.

“The overall state of the building, which is Brasília’s most iconic … is not good … and will require many repairs,” reported Nery, who was shown torn carpets and sofas, leaky ceilings, broken windows and jacaranda floorboards, and works of art damaged by the sun.

Photographs of the rundown palace more resembled images of dilapidated student accommodation than a listed building designed by one of the world’s most celebrated modernist architects.

A tapestry by Emiliano Di Cavalcanti, one of Brazil’s most celebrated 20th-century artists, had been damaged after being moved from the library and hung in the sun. “Unfortunately, it will have to be restored,” the first lady said.
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Supporters of Brazil's former president Jair Bolsonaro broke through a blockade set up by security forces and invaded ministries and the Congress building in Brazil on Sunday.

Video footage obtained by Reuters from Bolsonaro-related groups and video from local broadcasters show protesters storming the presidential palace in the capital Brasília.

Protesters also invaded the parking lot of the Planalto Palace, according to CNN Brasil. Brazil's president Luiz Inacio Lula Silva is currently on an official trip in Sao Paulo state.

The group crossed a police barrier and climbed the ramp that gives access to the roof of the Chamber of Deputies and Senate buildings.
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