Ted Cruz - Rafael Edward "Felito" "Ted" Cruz - Flyin', Lyin' TX Tea Turd

[raison de arizona]

I hear Cruz does a podcast.

Ted Cruz: part-time senator, full-time grifter.

[raison de arizona]

Cruz thinks Dems are going to dump Biden for Michelle Obama at their convention.

[AndyinPA]

I don't listen to him talk often. I didn't know he was quite so far round the bend.

[Ben-Prime]

I don't listen to him talk often. I didn't know he was quite so far round the bend.

I still think it's performative for him.

[p0rtia]

[johnpcapitalist]

I don't listen to him talk often. I didn't know he was quite so far round the bend.

I still think it's performative for him.

Trumpism is a cult. And cult leaders abuse their followers. Some followers join because they see an opportunity to gain personal power, even if they don't believe the doctrine. This was certainly true in the case of the lieutenants in the NXIVM sex cult in upstate New York -- they got benefits out of it even though they were abused by the leader. And even if they came in cynically, as the #2 in the group seems to have done, they ultimately become true believers when browbeaten enough.

Recall that Ted Cruz's father is a freelance evangelist who didn't have a congregation of his own, but traveled around preaching fire-and-brimstone sermons as a guest minister. I'd speculate that Ted was fairly isolated and was probably belittled if not actually abused by his father. Even though he has degrees from two Ivy League schools, that emotional context makes it easy for him to cross the line and become a true believer.

So Ted could have started out cynically embracing Trumpism to further his own personal power, but could have crossed the line to become a true believer, more at risk than some people who have indicated that they ridiculed Trump privately like Tucker Carlson. I hope he's merely being the cynical, self-aggrandizing schemer that made people despise him before Trump, but I wouldn't be so sure it's all an act today.

[Ben-Prime]

I don't listen to him talk often. I didn't know he was quite so far round the bend.

I still think it's performative for him.

I hope he's merely being the cynical, self-aggrandizing schemer that made people despise him before Trump, but I wouldn't be so sure it's all an act today.

I guess I just have a hard time believing Felito could believe anything sincerely. I don't discount it entirely, but it's a tough sell for me.

[Suranis]

There's also the problem that if you keep churning out the same never of stuff it gets boring. You have to keep upping the ante to get attention from the outrage culture, so you eventually start saying stuff there is no way you would have said a few years before.

I have no idea if ted believes the shit he is spouting, but also I don't think it makes much of a difference if he does not.

[Gregg]

I don't listen to him talk often. I didn't know he was quite so far round the bend.

He's not, he thinks the fools who listen to his podcast are.

With good reason.

[Gregg]

There's also the problem that if you keep churning out the same never of stuff it gets boring. You have to keep upping the ante to get attention from the outrage culture, so you eventually start saying stuff there is no way you would have said a few years before.

I have no idea if ted believes the shit he is spouting, but also I don't think it makes much of a difference if he does not.

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I have a theory that all cults eventually turn out to have aliens in the end...

But in this case, I have another theory that the Rapture, which is almost completely an American Evangelical thing, is a logical evolution of the Reformation.

The flock, in America where there are faw fewer Catholics in the early 1800s and religion west of the Mississippi kind of grew organically and spread out a bit, had had a few hundred years of vernacualr Bible and they had questions (the reason the Catholics never let them read it in English to begin with, according to other theories).

The flock was getting restless and to keep them involved (and dropping a few bob in the box on the way out) the Pastors needed a plot twist...WHAMMO! Raprture! Jesus is gonna come and whisk you all off the dirty plains to paradise...

[Suranis]

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(the reason the Catholics never let them read it in English to begin with, according to other theories).

Doesn't really pan out considering the amount of English Bibles before the Reformation and the Major Catholic Translation that came out 30 years before most Holy King James Bible. The Catholic Church never actually had a problem with vernacular Bibles, they just insisted on having a Theologian there to ensure the Translation was accurate. Of course when you point that out the same people who were wrong instantly switch to other conspiracies and accusations of censorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_E ... anslations <- List of English Bible Translations.

Fact is, most people at the time couldn't read the Bible in any Language. Sad fact, but true.

[Gregg]

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(the reason the Catholics never let them read it in English to begin with, according to other theories).

Doesn't really pan out considering the amount of English Bibles before the Reformation and the Major Catholic Translation that came out 30 years before most Holy King James Bible. The Catholic Church never actually had a problem with vernacular Bibles, they just insisted on having a Theologian there to ensure the Translation was accurate. Of course when you point that out the same people who were wrong instantly switch to other conspiracies and accusations of censorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_E ... anslations <- List of English Bible Translations.

Fact is, most people at the time couldn't read the Bible in any Language. Sad fact, but true.

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I guess they just liked cooking people found with them in bonfires then.

I get it, entertainment these days is so more diverse, if you can't even catch the American NFL game at Wembly, the only suitable substitute is to go watch them burn the heretics at the stake. Good fun, cheap popcorn, bring your own rotten produce to whip at the guests of honor before they're lashedto the poll and the fags lit.

The Catholic Church, led by a fanatic Cardinal Woolsey and then followed up by the equally fanatic Sir Thomas More, made "English Book Burning" which is when you burn whoever has the book and the book is kind of an appetizer at best, the go to event for the rabble during the Reformation. When the trend fades out because Henry VIII thinks it's a little harsh, well, it was pretty harsh.

When I first read about this stuff in the 6th grade I had never even heard of the Reformation, I was looking for "off with his head" stories from Henry VIII and even better Bloody Mary (who didn't like BBQ, but she was very fond of making heretics a head shorter.
When I learned about Woolsey and More I was terrified. Even moreso because in Cincinnati there is a University, Thomas More College which kind of makes him look good of you don't know the backstory.
These people and these events are the reason I am an atheist.

Whether it matters that it was over the language of the Bible or being ok with an English Bible but only with supervision, to me it was and is all about control. And all the bad things about religion I see TO THIS DAY are rooted in them telling their stories and controlling the interpretations to control the flock.
Modern religions sometime do great good. Often they aren't but they're great grifts and the tax treatment is top drawer. But even the most holy of churches in non-orthodox Christianity all have to trace their roots back to a few centuries minimum of behaving very badly.

[Suranis]

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I guess they just liked cooking people found with them in bonfires then.

They didn't.

If they were doing that, why were they calling Bede "Venerable" when he translated the Gospel of John into Old English in 735AD?

I think you posted something by a Pope in one of the religious threads to "prove" that the church was against Vernaqular translations and I posted that it was actually 3 sentances taken out of a much longer speech, And in out of different Paragraphs in the speech for each sentance. When put back into the speech and into their correct portions it changed the meaning completely. I'm very sorry you got a warped idea of what actually happened from your history lesson, but... no, the Catholic church was never burning people for holding English Translations of the Bible.

This is Wikipedia talking about he historical context of the first total English Translation of the Bible in 1382. I know you will focus on one sentence to "prove" what you said... but you don't know how and why it was challenged, and they weren't burned. And note it talking about english versions of the Psalms used to train Monks, so were they burning monks for holding those?

Look at all the versions and look at all the burning that didn't happen. I know you are going to blame the messenger for pointing out that your history lessons pumped you up full of hatred... but they kinda lied to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wycliffe%27s_Bible

Historical Context

In the early Middle Ages, most Western Christians encountered the scriptures primarily in the form of oral versions of scriptures, verses and homilies in Latin (other sources were mystery plays, usually performed in the vernacular, public preaching by traveling friars[1], and popular iconography).
Example of Glossing: The Lord's Prayer (Pater noster) from Lindesfarne Gospels (698) with word-for-word Old English glosses (ca.970) by Aldred the Glossator

The earliest written-English versions of scripture were not translations but "glosses" on portions of the Latin Vulgate, such as the Vespasian Psalter. These glosses translated individual words and were used to help student monks to understand the primary Latin, but the word-for-word English annotations were not intended to necessarily form coherent sentences and sometimes could not be meaningfully read aloud or understood independently of the Latin.[5]

The Venerable Bede translated the Gospel of John into Old English (Anglo-Saxon) in 735 (now lost), which John Purvey would later cite as precedent when Wycliffe's version was challenged by the church.[6] Other precursor translations include the Wessex Gospels, written in the 10th Century:[5] copies were still being made up to 1175.[7]

Ælfric of Eynsham adapted various Old Testament books into Old English, including the Old English Hexateuch, but they were often abridged and summarized. By modern standards, they were more akin to adaptations or paraphrases than translations.[8][9] A primary Anglo-Saxon genre[2] was the memorized epic poem suited for lengthy recitation by specialist declaimers,[10] so attempts were made to render biblical histories as poetry, rather than prose, such as the Old English Junius manuscript, the Early Middle English Ormulum, the Middle English Metrical Paraphrase of the Old Testament and the Metrical Paraphrase of the Gospels (1300).[11]

In the same century as Wycliffe, Richard Rolle translated the Psalms into Middle English, using the same word-for-word literal style which would characterize Wycliffe's first translation (EV).[12][13] John of Thoresby translated the catechism into Middle English, which likely helped inspire Wycliffe's project.[14]

At the time of Wycliffe's translation, most people mainly heard scripture readings and ad hoc oral translations at church: the general level of literacy was low, and Bibles were costly (before the printing press). It is certain though that the Bible itself was familiar even to laymen[15] in the fourteenth century and that the whole of the New Testament at least could be read in translations.[16]

For most of the previous 300 years, England had been trilingual, with the aristocracy and secular courts using Anglo-Norman; lawyers, intellectuals, doctors and religious conducting their male affairs in Latin, the older language of record;[17] and with the general and rural population usually speaking dialects of English that were still transitioning from the four major dialects of Old English (or Cornish) to the incoming Middle English;[18] the linguistic upheaval from the Anglo-Norman injection being enough that the writer of the so-called General Prologue noted that now no-one could understand the old translations (i.e., the Old English.)

Recent medieval scholarship disputes a sharp divide[19] between a fully literate elite who understood Latin, and a completely illiterate, monolingual populace with no understanding of letters and latinities,[20][21] a common assertion in previous years.[22] For example, the godparent system created a duty for laypeople to ensure that their godchildren had been taught and explained the Latin of the common prayers and meaning of the liturgy, independent of the clergy or schooling.[23]

Latin manuscripts of scriptures were usually of selections of books: especially books of Psalms (Psalters, Book of Hours or breveries), or Gospel books: lay biblical material was designed for devotional and liturgical purposes, not theological disputation; similarly, few manuscripts of the Wycliffite translations are complete bibles. A complete vernacular Bible did exist in Anglo-Norman French, but it was likely rare, as only three manuscripts survive.[24]

An analysis of London wills from before Wycliffe's time suggests that only 1% of the laity owned and bequeathed a single book, and only five laypeople in England are known to have owned a complete Vulgate Bible between 1348 and 1368.[25] Even after the Wycliffite translations, the illiterate and poor still usually lacked the access to the Scripture: the full translation originally may have cost four marks and forty pence. [26][27] As with the Vulgate Latin scriptures, most Middle English Bible manuscripts contain selected books of the bible only, and decoration varied.[28]: 97

[Gregg]

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I've posted three long replies that exploded before I hit Send, and I may try again when I wake up, but I have to say that I think you perhaps have me confused with someone else Quoting a Pope in a religious thread. I don't recall reading any religious treads or quoting Popes.

[Suranis]

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Thank you for focusing on an irrelevant detail to ignore the fact that you were wrong to keep useless interweb Alpha status. They never burned people for holding vernacular Bibles.

Why cant people just admit they are wrong about stuff? I do it all the time.

[Frater I*I]

[Kendra]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... AA1eMShE|1

Cassidy Hutchinson, in her new memoir, recounted her dismay with Ted Cruz over a 2020 incident.
Hutchinson carefully planned for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott to greet Trump during a tarmac arrival.
But Cruz showed up on the tarmac, which "infuriated" Hutchinson because it wasn't the plan.

Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, in her new memoir, said that Sen. Ted Cruz told her not to be a "tattletale" after she vented to Mark Meadows about him showing up to greet President Donald Trump at a tarmac arrival in Texas.

Hutchinson, whose memoir, "Enough," was released on Tuesday, detailed the lengths that she went through to coordinate Trump's August 2020 visit to the state in the aftermath of Hurricane Laura, a Category 4 storm that had devastated parts of the Gulf region.

In the memoir, Hutchinson described her plan to have Republican Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas greet Trump on the tarmac, while Cruz and then-House Minority Whip Steve Scalise of Louisiana would take part in a roundtable discussion with the then-president.

And she wrote of her dismay at seeing Cruz — whom she once interned for while in college — on the tarmac.

"While we were in the air, an advance staffer texted me news I didn't want. Ted Cruz had pressured OLA [Office of Legislative Affairs] to get local law enforcement and the Secret Service to allow him on the tarmac to greet POTUS," she wrote. "I had relayed ... very strict instructions from Mark and the president, yet there he now was as we landed, standing next to Governor Abbott, ready to grin and grip with the president, who was expecting him only at the roundtable."

[Kendra]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/te ... 98d3&ei=12

The Houston Astros faced the in-state rival Texas Rangers on Monday night in a pivotal Game 7 of the American League Championship series.

Before the game, per Rolling Stone, Astros fans begged Texas junior Republican Senator Ted Cruz to stay away.

Cruz had attended four previous Astros postseason games this year—all Astros losses.

“All I ask for is for Ted Cruz, the King of Jinxers, to not attend Game 7 of the #ALCS, so the Astros can have a good chance at victory,” wrote lawyer Mark Yzaguirre.

“I appreciate that Ted Cruz, as a dad, loves taking his kids to the @astros games,” added another fan. “But for the love of all things Houston, let Heidi take them! Send them with friends! It’s game 7 man. We can’t risk this. The whole city is asking you.”

[Rolodex]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/te ... 98d3&ei=12

The Houston Astros faced the in-state rival Texas Rangers on Monday night in a pivotal Game 7 of the American League Championship series.

Before the game, per Rolling Stone, Astros fans begged Texas junior Republican Senator Ted Cruz to stay away.

Cruz had attended four previous Astros postseason games this year—all Astros losses.

“All I ask for is for Ted Cruz, the King of Jinxers, to not attend Game 7 of the #ALCS, so the Astros can have a good chance at victory,” wrote lawyer Mark Yzaguirre.

“I appreciate that Ted Cruz, as a dad, loves taking his kids to the @astros games,” added another fan. “But for the love of all things Houston, let Heidi take them! Send them with friends! It’s game 7 man. We can’t risk this. The whole city is asking you.”

I feel the same way. And then, after the Astros lost, that asshole Cruz tweeted about cheering on the Dallas Rangers. They aren't even located in Dallas (they're in Arlington which is closer to Ft Worth) and they're called the Texas Rangers. Idiot.

[raison de arizona]

Ted Cruz believes the Democrats are lining up Michelle Obama to run for president instead of Biden and that the swap will happen at the Democrat National Convention next summer.

[raison de arizona]

Cruz has a new book: Unwoke.

Universities are the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. They are where it was created, mutated, and spread.

My new book, Unwoke, has the cure for this virus and provides the game plan for taking our country back.

Order today at http://tedcruz.org/unwoke

[neonzx]

And the book includes "THE CURE" for covid.

[Estiveo]

[Flatpoint High]

Felatio gets a warm NY welcome

[raison de arizona]

Hmm…