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Jim wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:11 pm
neonzx wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:59 pmCops can be major pricks.
And dealing with the public can be a major pain-in-the-ass and cops are human too.
Yes, but that is not an excuse. I didn't give any attitude. They did. If they are not up for job, they should seek a different career path.
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neonzx wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:19 pm
Jim wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:11 pm
neonzx wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:59 pmCops can be major pricks.
And dealing with the public can be a major pain-in-the-ass and cops are human too.
Yes, but that is not an excuse. I didn't give any attitude. They did. If they are not up for job, they should seek a different career path.
Not an excuse, just realizing that people who deal with the public may have just got done with someone with a huge attitude problem and was still coming down from it. No excuse for you being treated badly, just the realization that we're all human and sometimes it takes time to come down from a bad experience. But, in the end, you are correct and you did not deserve it.
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Police 'don't intend' to release video of 95-year-old's Tasering

Australian police say they will not release bodycam footage of the moment an elderly woman with dementia was Tasered by an officer.

Clare Nowland, 95, is in critical condition after an officer discharged the weapon at a care home in Cooma, New South Wales (NSW), on Wednesday.

Police say Ms Nowland had moved towards them "at a slow pace" with a knife.

NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb said she was "not sure" why there were calls for the footage to be released.

"Body-worn video is subject to legislative requirements around the surveillance devices act and other things, so it is not routine and we don't intend to release it, unless there is a process at the end of this that would allow it to be released."

Ms Webb said she had not seen the video but had heard audio from the footage. She said she does not "see it necessary" for her to view it.

The case has made global headlines and sparked an outcry over what advocates say was a disproportionate response.

NSW Police has launched a critical incident investigation, which Ms Webb said would "take some time".

Officers were called to the Yallambee Lodge care home after reports that Ms Nowland was "armed with a knife".

Police say they asked Ms Nowland, aided by a walking frame, to drop the knife before an officer discharged the weapon.

Family friend Andrew Thaler claimed Ms Nowland was struck twice - in the chest and the back - before she fell, suffering a fractured skull and a serious brain bleed.



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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-23/ ... /102380588

A senior police constable who tasered a 95-year-old great-grandmother in her nursing home has been suspended from duty, with pay.

Key points:

The status of the senior constable has been under review
95-year-old Clare Nowland remains in a critical condition at Cooma Base Hospital
She's been described as a "loving and gentle natured matriach"

The 33-year-old officer with 12 years of experience was with his partner when they were called to the aged care home in Cooma.
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IMHO also too a great failure by the staff of the care home. A thick towel or blanket put over the had with the knife would have eliminated any danger from a dementia patient in the nineties. Nurses ought to be able to handle such exceptional behaviour without calling in the police. Some limited physical force is appropriate in these circumstances. I know in the US "force" is only permitted to police, this is Australia and I have not heard that they have such stringent limitations. In Europe hands-on be nurses would be expected in this situation.
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My wife suggested the same solution, a towel/blanket/jumper - by anyone.
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A variation on the "Japanese buritto."

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:confuzzled: Japanese martial arts against a 95 year old woman :think:
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No, I meant using something like a towel or blanket similar to the way the Japanese police use a futon to "wrap up" a violent person (like a burrito).
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articlre a year old butthe story gets traction on Youtube
A Grandmother Needed Paperwork For a Glucose Monitor. The NYPD Broke Her Arm.
An ugly encounter in a Brooklyn stationhouse is setting off a new legal battle over filming the police.


By Nick Pinto
6:06 PM EDT on May 9, 2022

Patricia Rodney walked into the 62nd Precinct in Dyker Heights on December 2, 2020 because she had lost her glucose monitor. Rodney knew how important the instrument was to her survival. A diabetic, she had been hospitalized multiple times for complications related to her diabetes, and used the device to check her blood sugar levels many times a day.

“The insurance company said, the only way you will get a replacement is to get this report from the police department,” the 61-year-old grandmother of three recalled. Rodney, who serves food in a school cafeteria, had never had much cause to have interactions with the police, but she had gone down to the precinct a few days earlier to lodge her lost-property report. To her dismay, the officer who took her information told her he couldn’t give her the papers she needed immediately; she’d have to come back to the station house in a few days to pick them up. Rodney would have to wait a little longer for her medical device.

But when Rodney returned on December 2, a new officer was behind the desk, and she told Rodney that she couldn’t get her police report. The precinct doesn’t issue stolen property reports, the officer said. To get one of those, Rodney would have to go to NYPD headquarters at One Police Plaza in Manhattan.

Rodney was at the end of her rope: She’d already been told she could get the report here. Now she was getting the runaround. She dug in, telling the officer she’d been told to come back and get the report, and she wasn’t leaving the stationhouse until she got it.

The account up until now is Rodney’s, as told in an interview with Hell Gate and in a federal civil complaint. What happened next is documented in the body-worn-camera footage of two officers on duty at the 62nd Precinct that night. When the footage picks up, Rodney is in the vestibule of the precinct house, surrounded by police. When the sound on the video kicks in (NYPD body cameras only begin recording sound when activated, but append the previous 60 seconds of visuals from the camera’s buffer memory), an officer is warning Rodney that “Body cameras are now on.”



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Dave from down under wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 5:17 pm My wife suggested the same solution, a towel/blanket/jumper - by anyone.
Always know where your towel is. :towel:
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Senior Constable Kristian White, 33, has been charged with recklessly causing grievous bodily harm, assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and common assault.
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RTH10260 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:35 am Australia
NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb said she was "not sure" why there were calls for the footage to be released.
If this person isn't sure why people want to see the footage, she may not be suited for the police commissioner role.
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What's wrong with police in the US??? :mad: :mad: :mad: :brickwallsmall: :brickwallsmall: :brickwallsmall:

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:crying: No excuse for that kind of treatment. Police often drive around in cars that say "To Protect and Serve." They did neither.
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If the asshole gets another term look for this to become standard treatment of the homeless.
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Sad for this lady... but how this dude is trying to present content (if you want to call it that) and story is horrible. If someone has something to report on, say it in a succinct manner. Not a 12+ minute monotone voice where you also beg for donors.. :nope:
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I dunno what the guy did, but you wanna kill him? Because that's how you kill him.
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‘What Did I Do Wrong?’ 11-Year-Old Boy Shot By Cop After Calling For Help
The family is calling for the officer to be fired and charged.
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The family of an unarmed 11-year-old Black boy from Mississippi who was shot in the chest by a cop over the weekend is calling for the officer to be fired and criminally charged.

Aderrien Murry was following his mother’s instructions by calling 911 in response to a domestic disturbance in the early morning hours of May 20, his mother Nakala Murry told reporters.

The Indianola officer who responded came to the door with his gun drawn, Murry said, and instructed everyone in the home to come outside. She said when Aderrien came around a hallway corner, the cop shot him.

“He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.

According to the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation, which is investigating the shooting, Aderrien “received significant injuries.” Murry said her son had a collapsed lung, fractured ribs and a lacerated liver and was placed on a ventilator.
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In many failed states it is safer to not call the police.
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I spent my first 15 or so summers in Indianola with my grandparents, and worked under their chief here when he was with our local dept. I have much nicer things to say about the town than I do their chief. He was a useless POS as a Lt here, and has only become worse since he left. This is his third dept since he "retired" and each has been smaller than the previous.

I have no idea what their dept is like currently, but Indianola is a very small Delta town in the middle of cotton fields and crop duster landing strips. I can't imagine they have a huge field of applicants to choose from. Lots of history for such a small town, most of it bad, but at least they gave us BB King.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:17 am I have no idea what their dept is like currently, but Indianola is a very small Delta town in the middle of cotton fields and crop duster landing strips. I can't imagine they have a huge field of applicants to choose from. Lots of history for such a small town, most of it bad, but at least they gave us BB King.
I mean, I'd hardly call that, 'at least', but BB King was so popular at UF during and since my grad student days there in the early 90s that I may be biased. :biggrin:
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Dave from down under wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 5:57 am https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-23/ ... /102380588

A senior police constable who tasered a 95-year-old great-grandmother in her nursing home has been suspended from duty, with pay.

Key points:

The status of the senior constable has been under review
95-year-old Clare Nowland remains in a critical condition at Cooma Base Hospital
She's been described as a "loving and gentle natured matriach"

The 33-year-old officer with 12 years of experience was with his partner when they were called to the aged care home in Cooma.
Mrs. Nowland has died. Sympathy and respect to her family and friends.

‘The system did this’: After Clare Nowland’s death, a reckoning on who polices the police

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Nowland’s death, a week after she was Tasered by White when he was called to the aged care home she lived at because she was holding a steak knife, has quickly become a grim flash point. The premier, Chris Minns, called it a “traumatic” moment. Police Commissioner Karen Webb, facing easily the most turbulent week of her tenure, has been forced to defend the decision to exclude mention of the Taser in a press release announcing the incident.
In NSW, the investigations are handled by police from outside the local area of the officers involved, a measure introduced to reduce conflicts of interest. But the investigations have long been criticised by those who do not trust a famously parochial organisation to investigate itself.

As the high-profile Sydney lawyer Peter O’Brien, who specialises in civil cases against the police, told the Herald, it has been “historically, a pointless method of police investigation”.

“Since time immemorial it has been a thoroughly ineffective, unaccountable and unsound means of keeping the police accountable, for obvious reasons, and there are any number of examples to show that,” he said.
Has everybody heard about the bird?
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