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I saw most of that. :notlistening:
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Kyle Griffin :verified:
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NBC News confirms: The Jan. 6 Committee has started handing over documents and transcripts to the Department of Justice. @MSNBC
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The Joint Committee on Taxation released summaries of Trump's tax returns from 2015 to 2020 — finding he paid just $750 in income taxes in both 2016 and 2017, and that he reported negative income in four of those years (2015, 2016, 2017 and 2020).
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@January6thCmte
has given notice that it now anticipates releasing final report tomorrow. Had been expected today.
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JUST IN: Jan. 6 committee releases 34 transcripts of people who primarily pleaded the 5th. They include RNC committeewoman Kathy Berden, John Eastman, Jeff Clark and Roger Stone.
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CNN -- House Republicans on Wednesday released a report focused on security failures at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, highlighting well-documented breakdowns in intelligence sharing, Capitol security and coordination between various law enforcement agencies that responded that day.
Their primary recommendation centers around reforming the US Capitol Police Board and bolstering congressional oversight of the Capitol Police force – two issues that were identified by lawmakers of both parties in the wake of the January 6 attack.
But the GOP report is silent on other efforts to disrupt the transfer of presidential power after the 2020 election and selective in its criticism of political leaders and their culpability in the security breakdowns on January 6. The report resurfaces largely unfounded allegations to cast blame on Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi while glossing over former President Donald Trump’s own role.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/politics ... index.html
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Transcripts show committee asked Jenna Ellis if she was paid $22,500 for her services to Donald J Trump for President Inc in Dec 2020-Jan 2021

She invoked the 5th Amendment
Scott is going through the transcripts now, as is Ryan J Reilly. https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly
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There was a boatload of Fifths in the depos.

Heck, Charlie Kirk won’t even state his age.

What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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Also: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney



In an
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interview, Alexander Bruesewitx is asked why he thought
@RepGosar
sent the entire Stop the Steal group a message at 5:15 PM on January 6, 2021 that said, "We're still on lockdown in the congressional office."

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/demo ... sewitz.pdf
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Ummm, how would his age and education incriminate him? Can you just say you plead the 5th because you don't want anyone to know?
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pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:25 pm Ummm, how would his age and education incriminate him? Can you just say you plead the 5th because you don't want anyone to know?
Because he has lied about it?
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much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:38 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:25 pm Ummm, how would his age and education incriminate him? Can you just say you plead the 5th because you don't want anyone to know?
Because he has lied about it?
Yeah, but unless he lied about it under another oath, is being a simple liar to minions reason to take the 5th?
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MORE: Jenna ELLIS exchanged 350 text messages with Mark MEADOWS during the post-election period but only disclosed 35 of them in a privilege log. She pleaded the 5th when asked about the discrepancy. https://january6th.house.gov/sites/demo ... 0Ellis.pdf
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pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:19 pm
much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:38 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:25 pm Ummm, how would his age and education incriminate him? Can you just say you plead the 5th because you don't want anyone to know?
Because he has lied about it?
Yeah, but unless he lied about it under another oath, is being a simple liar to minions reason to take the 5th?
That's a good point. All I can find out is that he says he graduated from Ripon High School then attended an unspecified "renowned" college. Being embarrassed by your answer is not a valid reason to take the 5th. But he may have done that.
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Thread. Do read all and what kinds of questions Fuentes answered 5th to.

FUENTES' attorney told the select committee that Fuents had been informed (at least around Feb. 2022) that he was the subject or target of a criminal investigation
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much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:30 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:19 pm
much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:38 pm

Because he has lied about it?
Yeah, but unless he lied about it under another oath, is being a simple liar to minions reason to take the 5th?
That's a good point. All I can find out is that he says he graduated from Ripon High School then attended an unspecified "renowned" college. Being embarrassed by your answer is not a valid reason to take the 5th. But he may have done that.
IANAL, but as far as I know, it is possible, but extremely difficult for a questioner to pierce the 5th Amendment response. That is, the decision that answering a question would be incriminating is almost exclusively with the person being asked the question. Without knowing the answer, it is impossible for the court (or congress) to evaluate the validity of the witness's plea of the 5th, so the witness is given the benefit of the doubt.

But, as TFG, who plead the 5th several hundred times in one of his depositions, said, "Only the mafia pleads the fifth".
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@kyledcheney
We learn in Mike ROMAN's deposition that it was PA pro-Trump electors who feared legal repercussions if they didn't caveat their claim to be the "duly elected and qualified" slate.

Ken Chesebro suggests adding these caveats it in other states, but only NM did.
Another semi-mystery solved. It appears Mike Roman dispatched G. Michael Brown to hand deliver the false MI and WI electors to the Capitol on the day of Jan. 6.

These become the subject of an effort by Sen. Johnson to get the ballots into Pence's hands.
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Jan. 6 committee releases two Cassidy Hutchonson interviews, both from September, in which she discusses the circumstances about her legal representation.

Her current lawyers, after she dropped her previous one, is working for her pro bono.
After he first attorney prospect fell through because of prohibitive fees, she talked about how she casted about for awhile. She felt like she was being steered to get a Trump-world lawyer even though she didn't want one.
MORE: This is the big stuff here. Hutchinson testified that her first lawyer, Stefan Passantino, told her not to refresh her memory on things.

"We're going to downplay your role. You were a secretary ... the less you remember, the better."
Moar at the link/thread. :popcorn:
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https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews

Also Scott is going through the Cassidy Hutchison release.
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Essentially Exhibit One for the trial of Mark Meadows for witness tampering.👇

With this kind of criminal exposure, it's easy to imagine Meadows has flipped and is cooperating with the Justice Department.

Message conveyed by his current spokesperson to Cassidy Hutchinson:


Damn, this reporting on Cassidy's testimony is quite something. I hope CNN gets John Dean on the air today and get his input.
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much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:30 pmAll I can find out is that he says he graduated from Ripon High School then attended an unspecified "renowned" college. Being embarrassed by your answer is not a valid reason to take the 5th. But he may have done that.
I inferred Kirk had lied, under penalty of perjury, elsewhere about his age and education. So he pleaded the Fifth now to avoid a different perjury charge.

* * *

I'm not going to bother to hunt for the "offline" answer, but I presume this is a clumsy attempt to invoke a First Amendment right to association, i.e., it isn't the government's business with whom I choose to associate.
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noblepa wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:52 am
much ado wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:30 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:19 pm
Yeah, but unless he lied about it under another oath, is being a simple liar to minions reason to take the 5th?
That's a good point. All I can find out is that he says he graduated from Ripon High School then attended an unspecified "renowned" college. Being embarrassed by your answer is not a valid reason to take the 5th. But he may have done that.
IANAL, but as far as I know, it is possible, but extremely difficult for a questioner to pierce the 5th Amendment response. That is, the decision that answering a question would be incriminating is almost exclusively with the person being asked the question. Without knowing the answer, it is impossible for the court (or congress) to evaluate the validity of the witness's plea of the 5th, so the witness is given the benefit of the doubt.

But, as TFG, who plead the 5th several hundred times in one of his depositions, said, "Only the mafia pleads the fifth".
If they really really want to know the answer they can give the guy immunity, either total or qualified, and then he has to answer because it can no longer be used against him.
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———Final Report———

845 pages of weekend reading.

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/demo ... mittee.pdf

Ummm, pay no attention to the date on the cover. :shrug:

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Inside as well…
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