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Another loss for the losers...


Judge throws out most of case alleging counterfeit ballots in Fulton
A judge dismissed most of a lawsuit Thursday seeking a deep inspection of Fulton County absentee ballots from last year’s presidential election, a review pursued by voters trying to find fraud.
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The case is an attempt to scrutinize 147,000 absentee ballots based on claims by Republicans who suspected there were counterfeit ballots during a manual recount of November’s election results. Election officials have said there’s no indication of fraud after multiple recounts and investigations.

An attorney for the Fulton elections board said the ruling prevents the possibility for an in-person review of absentee ballots using high-powered microscopes in the Georgia World Congress Center, as sought by those who believe fraud produced Democrat Joe Biden’s 12,000-vote win in Georgia over Republican Donald Trump.
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This one seems a little complex so welcome any thoughts on this.

First from the grifter clowns:
BREAKING: Court Rules For Petitioners Again In Fulton Ballot Inspection Case
by CD Media StaffJune 24, 202112877
Fulton County Attorneys Try And Claim Sovereign Immunity In GA Election Fraud Case [And Succeed, funny how they leave that out :lol: ]

This story is developing… The Henry County, GA court of Judge Amero has ruled in favor of peititioners to continue scanning ballots for election fraud evidence. CDMedia will bring more information as we receive it. Below is a comment from the head of VoterGA.org, Garland Favorito.
———————–
VoterGA Comment:

“We are pleased that the court has ruled in our favor again for the fifth time. The ruling substitutes Defendants by replacing currently named government organizations with individual board members we named originally in our lawsuit. It also moots Don Samuels’ attempt to dismiss our case. This continues the string of victories we have including how we obtained the original protective order, conditional approval to inspect ballots, access to ballot images, and the order to unseal the ballots.”

Garland
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/ne ... tion-case/

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Atlanta Journal Consitution (AJC):
Judge throws out most of case alleging counterfeit ballots in Fulton
By Mark Niesse, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution 2 hours ago

A judge dismissed most of a lawsuit Thursday seeking a deep inspection of Fulton County absentee ballots from last year’s presidential election, a review pursued by voters trying to find fraud. Superior Court Judge Brian Amero’s ruling jeopardizes the prospects for the ballot inspection to continue, though a plaintiff in the lawsuit said he believes it will soon move forward. The case is an attempt to scrutinize 147,000 absentee ballots based on claims by Republicans who suspected there were counterfeit ballots during a manual recount of November’s election results. Election officials have said there’s no indication of fraud after multiple recounts and investigations.

An attorney for the Fulton elections board said the ruling prevents the possibility for an in-person review of absentee ballots using high-powered microscopes in the Georgia World Congress Center, as sought by those who believe fraud produced Democrat Joe Biden’s 12,000-vote win in Georgia over Republican Donald Trump. “That litigation is finished,” said Don Samuel, a prominent Atlanta attorney hired by the Fulton elections board. “Is there going to be an audit? Not right now. ... There’s no discovery permitted. There’s no lawsuit pending anymore.” Amero dismissed most claims against the county elections board, the county clerk and the county itself, deciding they couldn’t be sued under Georgia’s sovereign immunity laws, which limit when plaintiffs can turn to the courts for relief. The judge left in place a previous order requiring the county to produce digital images of absentee ballots and other election records that are public documents under the Georgia Open Records Act.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Garland Favorito, said he viewed Amero’s order as a victory. Favorito plans to submit a ballot inspection plan next week based on the judge’s order in May to unseal absentee ballots, allowing for high-resolution re-scans of ballots and an in-person review. “We just want Fulton to be held responsible,” Favorito said. “We could be moving forward any time now unless they try to stall again. Fulton may make a new desperation move to postpone it.” But Samuel said when the case is over, the prior order to unseal absentee ballot will become moot. Attorneys for the plaintiffs didn’t return messages seeking comment.

Georgia election officials have repeatedly said there’s no evidence of significant fraud in the election after ballots were counted three times last year. The secretary of state’s office is investigating over 100 complaints about last year’s general election, and even if all of them exposed invalid votes, Biden still would have won. The lawsuit wanted a judge to authorize a ballot inspection after Republican election observers and auditors alleged that there were “pristine” ballots with perfectly filled-in ovals, as well as batches of ballots cast entirely for Biden in the heavily Democratic county. Investigators pulled those ballot batches and looked for irregularities but found no signs of counterfeits, according to the secretary of state’s office. “This lawsuit is the result of meritless claims and the ‘big lie,’ ” Fulton Commission Chairman Robb Pitts said. “It’s been six months and no proof of wrongdoing has been produced. Enough is enough — this whole circus must end.”

Though Amero dismissed claims against the Fulton elections board, he allowed the plaintiffs to add its five members as defendants, keeping the case alive. Samuel said he plans to file motions to dismiss claims against them as well because there are no allegations that election board members — including two Republicans and two Democrats — had any role in counting ballots. Before Amero’s ruling, those who believe the election was fraudulent had hoped for a ballot inspection similar to an ongoing review in Arizona.

Meanwhile, Republican state senators in Michigan issued a report Wednesday saying there was no systemic election fraud and voters could be confident in the results of the presidential election. “I have never doubted that competent, experienced and objective analysis would find what I have said from the beginning, that the election was fair and accurate,” Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Wednesday. Without a court-ordered ballot review, Favorito and the other plaintiffs would be left with computerized absentee ballot images that they were already provided through a request under the Georgia Open Records Act. Favorito has said those images aren’t clear enough to detect irregularities.

The story so far
What happened: A judge dismissed most of a lawsuit seeking an inspection of Fulton County absentee ballots.
The latest: Little is left of the case, and election officials plan to ask for those parts to be thrown out as well.
What’s next: Plaintiffs who believe there was fraud will ask the judge to continue with the ballot review.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/judge-dism ... L6KPPFZTU/

Here's the order: https://voterga.files.wordpress.com/202 ... 4-2021.pdf

From reading the order, sounds like Bones McCoy would say, "It's dead, Jim".
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The Justice Dept is filing a lawsuit to challenge Georgia’s new voting restrictions, a source familiar with the matter tells
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. AG Merrick Garland will announce it at 11AM.
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Livestream link of AG Garland (running late, not on yet as of 11:05EDT):

He's on at 11:08AM with Lisa Monaco and the Kristen Clark, AAG for Civil Rights. He's strongly protecting the franchise. This is big news. Lawsuit against Georgia against Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. He's point out how high GA voting rates were (above the national average). The complaint alleges the Mar 2021 Georgia voting changes stop protecting voting rights. Garland says they are doubling the staff handling voting right.

ETA: What a pleasure to see competent, professional people. They are serious about this and have already let federal prosecutors in the field know to prioritize and prosecute these cases. They are also going to focus on threats to election workers, whether elected or volunteer. It's a relief to see a DOJ focused on this issue instead of just supporting a short-fingered vulgarian.








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New Evidence Reveals GA Audit Fraud and Massive Errors

ATLANTA GA – Petitioners in a lawsuit organized by VoterGA to inspect Fulton County ballots
have added stunning claims in their amended complaint and provided new evidence from public
records that show Fulton County’s hand count audit of the November 3rd 2020 election was riddled
with massive errors and provable fraud.


Most new allegations and evidence are based on a VoterGA data team’s analysis of Fulton’s
November 2020 mail-in ballot images made public after petitioners won a court order on April
13th and VoterGA lobbying efforts led the Georgia General Assembly to make all images public
under Open Records Requests beginning March 25th.

The team’s analysis revealed that 923 of 1539 mail-in ballot batch files contained votes incorrectly
reported in Fulton’s official November 3rd 2020 results. These inaccuracies are due to
discrepancies in votes for Donald Trump, Joe Biden and total votes cast compared to their reported
audit totals for respective batches. Thus, the error reporting rate in Fulton’s hand count audit
is a whopping 60%.

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https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... Errors.pdf
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Ya know, if you're going to make up fraud stories, don't go with a whopper stat like 60% error rate. Just sayin'.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:48 pm Ya know, if you're going to make up fraud stories, don't go with a whopper stat like 60% error rate. Just sayin'.
Well, if you're gonna pull lies outta your anus, might as well go big amiright :D
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Some ballots initially double-counted in Fulton before recount
A duplicate write-in vote for singer Kanye West was a big clue that some absentee ballots had been counted twice in Fulton County.

Digital ballot images made public under Georgia’s new voting law show nearly 200 ballots — including one for West — that election officials initially scanned two times last fall before a recount. There’s no indication any ballot was counted more than once in official results.

The discovery of identical ballots provides evidence to back up allegations of problems in the presidential election, but on a relatively small scale that had no bearing on the final certified count. A group of voters seeking to prove the election was fraudulent say double-counting is just the beginning of what they hope to find.
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Double-counted ballots were discovered by voters suing Fulton in an effort to persuade a judge to allow them to conduct an in-depth inspection of 147,000 absentee ballots. The judge ruled against the plaintiffs last month, but the case survived with new claims filed against the county’s five election board members.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/some-ballo ... KIDNIOYV4/


Tucker Carlson is supposedly going to discuss the new evidence of "voter fraud" in Fulton County on his show tonight.
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Fraud only happens in Democratic stronghold counties, but most voters that are actually caught committing fraud, such as attempting to vote twice or voting for their dead (or living) mother or sibling are almost always Republican. Something doesn't sound right. :think:
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RVInit wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:26 am Fraud only happens in Democratic stronghold counties, but most voters that are actually caught committing fraud, such as attempting to vote twice or voting for their dead (or living) mother or sibling are almost always Republican. Something doesn't sound right. :think:
Three cases of voter fraud were caught in Pennsylvania in the 2020 presidential election. All three were white republican men.
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This article is from back in May, so there may be a few more instances of voter fraud. At the time of the article there were 16 cases or 1 in 10 million.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -election/
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Thanks for the link.
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RVInit wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:09 pm This article is from back in May, so there may be a few more instances of voter fraud. At the time of the article there were 16 cases or 1 in 10 million.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -election/
Huh. Disgraced TX AG Ken Paxton claims to have over 500 voter fraud cases awaiting trial, with an additional more than 300 being investigated. :confuzzled:
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Well, then he should pay up on his bet with John Fetterman, Lt. Governor of PA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1cayv1

WASHINGTON — All John Fetterman wants for Christmas is the $3 million he says Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick owes him.

Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. Fetterman relentlessly trolls Dan Patrick seeking $1M voter fraud bounty

The Democratic lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania has been trolling his Republican counterpart for weeks to collect on the $1 million Patrick offered in November for evidence of fraud in the Nov. 3 election. Three supporters of President Donald Trump have now been charged in separate voter fraud schemes in Pennsylvania. Fetterman says they should all count for bounty purposes.

The most recent charges came this week — against the second Pennsylvania man to be accused of casting a ballot for Trump in the name of his deceased mother.

“We hit the jackpot with this last one,” Fetterman said. “There are three documented cases — three.”
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Lol, will pay for evidence of fraud! No, not that evidence!
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covfefe wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:31 pm
The team’s analysis revealed that 923 of 1539 mail-in ballot batch files contained votes incorrectly
reported in Fulton’s official November 3rd 2020 results. These inaccuracies are due to
discrepancies in votes for Donald Trump, Joe Biden and total votes cast compared to their reported
audit totals for respective batches. Thus, the error reporting rate in Fulton’s hand count audit
is a whopping 60%.

:snippity:
Huh.

So I decided to actually go look at their data, and something is actually wrong. I took at look at the list they gave of talleys that listed 100% for biden, and then went to look at the folder that should be associated with that talley sheet and did indeed find votes for Trump. The folder's data though showed the correct count, so it appears to just be these audit taley sheets. So there is either something a layman doesn't know/understand here, or the taley sheets actually do have some pretty significant errors. If they came up with something like 60% though, I am guessing the former and thus there is something about the nature of the data or the numbering that is not apparent.

Regardless, I take away points from them for only referencing 1/3rd of the issue in their examples.
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neeneko wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:29 pm
covfefe wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:31 pm
The team’s analysis revealed that 923 of 1539 mail-in ballot batch files contained votes incorrectly
reported in Fulton’s official November 3rd 2020 results. These inaccuracies are due to
discrepancies in votes for Donald Trump, Joe Biden and total votes cast compared to their reported
audit totals for respective batches. Thus, the error reporting rate in Fulton’s hand count audit
is a whopping 60%.

:snippity:
Huh.

So I decided to actually go look at their data, and something is actually wrong. I took at look at the list they gave of talleys that listed 100% for biden, and then went to look at the folder that should be associated with that talley sheet and did indeed find votes for Trump. The folder's data though showed the correct count, so it appears to just be these audit taley sheets. So there is either something a layman doesn't know/understand here, or the taley sheets actually do have some pretty significant errors. If they came up with something like 60% though, I am guessing the former and thus there is something about the nature of the data or the numbering that is not apparent.

Regardless, I take away points from them for only referencing 1/3rd of the issue in their examples.
My understanding is that there was a problem with the initial count, but then they recounted (twice, I think) and took care of it before anything entered an Official Record. :think:
Edit: Well, not what I said, not sure where I read that, but an explanation: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 450430002/
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covfefe wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:52 pm My understanding is that there was a problem with the initial count, but then they recounted (twice, I think) and took care of it before anything entered an Official Record. :think:
Edit: Well, not what I said, not sure where I read that, but an explanation: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 450430002/
Not sure either of those really describe the data provided though. I wonder if it was just a sloppy data dump? The tally sheets are either not what one would expect, or are wrong. Though another possibility is that I recall people talking about talleying being 3 times in an audit and comparing, so maybe they included all 3?
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RVInit wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:26 am Fraud only happens in Democratic stronghold counties, but most voters that are actually caught committing fraud, such as attempting to vote twice or voting for their dead (or living) mother or sibling are almost always Republican. Something doesn't sound right. :think:
Democrats are better at covering up their fraud. Since most fraud cases have been Republicans, it is a sign that the Democrats have committed millions of cases of fraud.
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covfefe wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:17 pm
RVInit wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:09 pm This article is from back in May, so there may be a few more instances of voter fraud. At the time of the article there were 16 cases or 1 in 10 million.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -election/
Huh. Disgraced TX AG Ken Paxton claims to have over 500 voter fraud cases awaiting trial, with an additional more than 300 being investigated. :confuzzled:
OKay, fine Paxton. You get me hundreds of convictions (or a hundred convictions), and I will start taking you seriously. Shoot, 50 would be a start. even 20. Do I hear 10?
Edit: Over 500 counts. Only 44 people. He lies again
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Way too late to be downloading data…
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OK, so there was some garden variety human error. The dupes didn't make it into the final count. More of the story Nota posted above...

AJC:
Some ballots initially double-counted in Fulton before recount
By Mark Niesse, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution July 13, 2021
Almost 200 duplicate found when ballot images made public

A duplicate write-in vote for singer Kanye West was a big clue that some absentee ballots had been counted twice in Fulton County. Digital ballot images made public under Georgia’s new voting law show nearly 200 ballots — including one for West — that election officials initially scanned two times last fall before a recount. There’s no indication any vote for president was counted more than once in official results.

The discovery of identical ballots provides evidence to back up allegations of problems in the presidential election, but on a relatively small scale that had no bearing on the final certified count. A group of voters seeking to prove the election was fraudulent say double-counting is just the beginning of what they hope to find. Supporters of Republican Donald Trump have been searching for signs of fraud since his 12,000-vote loss to Democrat Joe Biden in Georgia. But two recounts confirmed Biden’s victory, and the courts have rejected lawsuits that sought to overturn the results.
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The ballots counted twice would have given Biden 27 extra votes. After a recount, official results reflected that Trump gained a total of 121 absentee votes in Fulton. Biden won the county with 73% of 524,000 votes cast. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution also verified the duplicate ballots in ballot images obtained under the Georgia Open Records Act and posted online.

The overall number of ballots counted in Georgia generally matched the number of voters who checked in at polling places or returned absentee ballots. Manual and machine recounts found similar totals for each candidate. “It’s Fulton failing to follow proper election protocols again,” said Carter Jones, an independent monitor of Fulton’s elections who found sloppy practices but no fraud. “Fulton is so poor at managing the actual process that if they had actually tried to rig the election, they would have bungled it and we would have found out.”

Jones said it’s possible that an election worker lost track of which absentee ballots had already been scanned in the initial count and then ran them through the machine again. Jones, hired by the State Election Board to observe Fulton’s elections after last year’s primary, recommended that the county change absentee ballot processing during the recount and runoff, boxing up absentee ballots for storage as soon as they were scanned. The county followed his advice, reducing the chance that ballots would be counted twice.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/some-ballo ... KIDNIOYV4/

All this screaming and wailing for 27 votes out of 524K in Fulton County. These folks are chasing after dust clouds while they grift the marks. It's July for heaven's sake. When these numbers come out fully, they are going to look like the sore losers they are.
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covfefe wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:56 am https:// twitter.com/kevinkelton2/status/1413842834545913867?s=21
https:// twitter.com/slideglidenride/status/1414049860685336580?s=21
Way too late to be downloading data…
Question: I thought the ballots and their images were protected information in AZ?

And OMFSM what is nefarious about the fact that among millions of votes there are several people that happen to have the same vote choice ? :brickwallsmall: :brickwallsmall: :brickwallsmall:

PS. what does the bar code reveal? Is it the identifier for the type of ballot, eg the county and what combination of choices have been printed on the form, or is it a representation of the choices that the scanner did print on the bottom for easier counting?

PPS. Looks to me that some scanner software overlays the marked choice with a crossed-out symbol to indicate that the selected choice was recognized.

POPS. why are they shouting out voter fraud when the ballot was in favour of the now outed former impotus :?: :rotflmao:



ETA. just seen reply by O "Some ballots initially double-counted in Fulton before recount"
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