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This isn't a hypothetical question. It has come up in tfg's white house.
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We may want to take this line of argument from Trump’s attorney extremely seriously.
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Rendition to GITMO for some enhanced interrogation of the SCOTUS justices that believe it is OK for a president to be above the law.
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We already have a branch of government that makes the laws. It's called the legislature. We elect them. If SCOTUS wants to get into the business of making laws, perhaps we should get to directly elect them as well.
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Only Justice Jackson reminded her colleagues that deciding this case was the Court’s task and that it might not be cool to use it as a vehicle for “answering in advance all these abstract questions”!

So much for the idea of each branch staying in its constitutional lane!
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Why do the justices spend so much time asking about hypothetical future cases and how the law applies to them instead of focusing on the specific case before them?
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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:48 pm Why do the justices spend so much time asking about hypothetical future cases and how the law applies to them instead of focusing on the specific case before them?
Shirley you aren't suggesting a majority of the current SCOTUS are just hypocritical hacks lacking an actual philosophical compass.
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bob wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:54 pm
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:48 pm Why do the justices spend so much time asking about hypothetical future cases and how the law applies to them instead of focusing on the specific case before them?
Shirley you aren't suggesting a majority of the current SCOTUS are just hypocritical hacks lacking an actual philosophical compass.


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If the SCOTUS approval gets much lower, some of these Democrats can run openly on packing the court.
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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:48 pm Why do the justices spend so much time asking about hypothetical future cases and how the law applies to them instead of focusing on the specific case before them?
They usually don't. I didn't listen to every single word, but I heard probably 80% or more. My immediate reaction is they are looking for excuses to push it back down to the lower court so the lower court can decide smaller issues then they can take it up again, oh, but wait, it's too late to do it this session, so this will be pushed way out into the future. Trump will be dead in his grave before they ever decide on anything having to do with immunity. They can't outright just say "Donald Trump is completely immune from all his criminal activity" but then put restrictions on Joe Biden and any Democratic president. But, they can help Trump by refusing to decide anything on the current case and push questions back down to the lower court. It was pretty obvious that is what they intend to do. I'm not even a lawyer and I was able to pick up on that within about 20 minutes of the start of questioning Dreeben.
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My message to Alito regarding his support of heads of states with absolute power: Read a book, Sammy.
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RVInit wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:27 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:48 pm Why do the justices spend so much time asking about hypothetical future cases and how the law applies to them instead of focusing on the specific case before them?
They usually don't. I didn't listen to every single word, but I heard probably 80% or more. My immediate reaction is they are looking for excuses to push it back down to the lower court so the lower court can decide smaller issues then they can take it up again, oh, but wait, it's too late to do it this session, so this will be pushed way out into the future. Trump will be dead in his grave before they ever decide on anything having to do with immunity. They can't outright just say "Donald Trump is completely immune from all his criminal activity" but then put restrictions on Joe Biden and any Democratic president. But, they can help Trump by refusing to decide anything on the current case and push questions back down to the lower court. It was pretty obvious that is what they intend to do. I'm not even a lawyer and I was able to pick up on that within about 20 minutes of the start of questioning Dreeben.
I noticed this with the J6 obstruction of an official proceeding case, too. There’s a specific case in front of them. Who cares about precedent? Every single case is different and happens in a vacuum.
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at this site filed under SWAMP CREATURES
Clarence Thomas Hates the “Hideous Place” That Made Him Rich
The Supreme Court justice claims he can’t stand Washington, but he has the capital city to thank for all of those wealthy friends who have treated him to lavish trips and luxury goods.

Matt Ford
May 14, 2024

Supreme Court justices are not above shaping their own public images. Many of them write books, either biographies about their own lives or general treatises about their view on the law. They often speak to law students and fellow judges in public appearances and (occasionally) grant interviews to news outlets.

But none of them can hold a candle to Justice Clarence Thomas, a man who seems to be enamored with his own mythology—and who deeply resents anything that contradicts it or his self-image. Americans saw another glimpse of it last week when Thomas spoke at an Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals conference in Mobile Bay, Alabama.

“My wife and I, the last two or three years, just the nastiness and the lies,” Thomas reportedly told Judge Kathryn Mizelle, a former clerk, at the event. “There’s certainly been a lot of negativity in our lives, my wife and I, over the last few years, but we choose not to focus on it.” While telling an anecdote about a friend in his hometown, he briefly mentioned that the story occurred “before they started attacking my friends; I hope I still have some.”

He also denounced the hostility he said he feels in the nation’s capital. “Especially in Washington, people pride themselves in being awful,” he said. “It’s a hideous place, as far as I’m concerned. Because the rest of the country—it’s one of the reasons we like R.V.-ing. You get to be around regular people who don’t pride themselves in doing harmful things merely because they have the capacity to do it.”

These are Thomas’s fullest public remarks on the ethics scandals that have hounded him over the past year, and they underscore how he views the scandals primarily as a matter of public relations than judicial propriety. Though he loves to cast himself as a martyr, the reality of Thomas’s life and career is that many of his grievances are self-inflicted ones. So when he bemoans the “nastiness” of this “hideous place” called Washington, he should consider his own role in making it that way.



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I have a solution for you, CT.
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Clarence and his spouse are sheer garbage who gaslight just enough credules to allow them to continue to grift. They might be successful in the short term, but in the long term they, and their decendants are fucked. I can only hope I live to see their fuckage!
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An upside-down American flag – a symbol used by some supporters of former President Donald Trump who challenged the legitimacy of Joe Biden’s 2020 victory – hung outside the home of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito after the election, The New York Times reported Thursday.

The revelation is almost certain to prompt calls for Alito, a member of the court’s conservative wing, to recuse himself from several high-profile cases pending before the court this year involving the election and subsequent attack on the US Capitol, including the blockbuster question of whether Trump may claim immunity from federal election subversion charges.

The Times published a photo of the inverted flag, which it said was seen at the justice’s home in Alexandria, Virginia, on January 17, 2021.
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Am I to believe that Justice Alito arrived home every evening and never noticed the flag?
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:11 pm Am I to believe that Justice Alito arrived home every evening and never noticed the flag?
In January 2021, much of the nation was still on lockdown and working remotely. IIRC, that included SCOTUS justices.
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Gotta appreciate a guy that will under-bus his wife that quick.
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Way to go, Mrs. Alito! You still have a spark of self determination in you after all those years with Alito!
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From the Editorial Desk: "briefly" in no way means "a week". There are a handful of ways to describe a period of time: for a second or two, for a minute, briefly, for a few hours, for the morning (etc.), for half a day, for a day, for a week, etc."

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She hung the flag upside because the neighbor used objectionable language. :liar: Alito never noticed. :liar:
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:yeahthat:

And I want to know what the neighbor's sign actually said.

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Did "someone" go out and specifically buy the flag, or did it just happen to be lying around the house?
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p0rtia wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 10:55 amAnd I want to know what the neighbor's sign actually said.

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Ya know what, Mrs. Alito? MYOB.
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