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Tonight's protests are going to be intense in Elizabeth City, and much of NC. And in other American cities.

I'm stunned by the judge's decision. Absolutely stunned. :brickwallsmall: And fucking pissed off. :mad:

Lawyers, how likely is it that media outlets could successfully appeal this ruling?
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sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:04 pm https://www.facebook.com/judgejfoster

LMAO!!!
It's no longer available! :crying:
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LM K wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:06 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:04 pm https://www.facebook.com/judgejfoster

LMAO!!!
It's no longer available! :crying:
I know! That's why I'm LMAO! I'm betting it happened at some point today.

p.s. He's an old white guy.
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He's ex-law enforcement!
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LM K wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:18 pm He's ex-law enforcement!
Probation Parole Officer – Supervised serious felons on probation from 1983 – 1987
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Imagine my surprise.
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Andrew Brown's family probably won't see the complete police body camera footage.
Foster said Brown's family must be allowed to view the footage within 10 days, however. Faces and identification badges of the deputies involved will be blurred and some sections may be cut.
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Police are fueling outrage over Andrew Brown Jr.’s death by withholding information, experts say
After deputies in North Carolina fatally shot a Black man last week, law enforcement offered promises of transparency. But few facts emerged – a void of information that raised suspicions and helped stoke national outrage, according to experts.

Andrew Brown Jr. was killed April 21 as sheriff's deputies tried to execute drug-related search and arrest warrants at his house in the town of Elizabeth City. Since then, little official comment has followed, despite pleas from Brown's family and mounting legal pressure.

The officers’ names, bodycam footage, a timeline of events and a justification for the shooting are all among the details that have not been made public as Sheriff Tommy Wooten has repeatedly cited ongoing investigations as the reason for scant details.

It’s a “recipe for unnecessary acrimony and conflict,” said David Snyder, the Executive Director First Amendment Coalition. Snyder said the case is a part of a longstanding trend among law enforcement to be “secretive without good reason.”

Snyder criticized a North Carolina law that requires a court order for body cam footage to be released to the public — a law that allowed a judge on Wednesday to block the footage’s release to the media.

The lack of basic facts about the case provides an environment where “misinformation and conspiracy theories” can thrive and “raises suspicions that they are unduly trying to make secrets,” Snyder said.

The clearest picture of authorities’ account of the shooting came Wednesday as District Attorney Andrew Womble told a judge that a characterization made by one of the Brown family attorneys was incorrect.

Womble said video shows that Brown’s car made “contact” with law enforcement twice before shots could be heard. He also argued that video should be kept from the public while state investigators pursue their probe.

Harry Daniels, an attorney for Brown’s family, objected to Womble citing video in court that had not been made public: “I heard statements being made: Well, (Brown) might have hit the deputies … well, show us the video,” he said.

Daniels said the family’s position remains the same: “An innocent man was gunned down.”

As the Brown family’s lawyers criticize local law enforcements’ handling of the investigation, protesters are still flooding the streets of Elizabeth City.

In the hours after Brown’s death, Daniels publicly pressured law enforcement to provide details, saying that the family was being forced to rely on speculation and eyewitness accounts to understand what happened.

Those accounts have shaped the public’s understanding of the case — more so then they might have if Brown had been killed by police years ago, according to Lauren Bonds, the legal director for the National Police Accountability Project.

Harry Daniels, an attorney for Brown’s family, objected to Womble citing video in court that had not been made public: “I heard statements being made: Well, (Brown) might have hit the deputies … well, show us the video,” he said.

Daniels said the family’s position remains the same: “An innocent man was gunned down.”

As the Brown family’s lawyers criticize local law enforcements’ handling of the investigation, protesters are still flooding the streets of Elizabeth City.

In the hours after Brown’s death, Daniels publicly pressured law enforcement to provide details, saying that the family was being forced to rely on speculation and eyewitness accounts to understand what happened.

Those accounts have shaped the public’s understanding of the case — more so then they might have if Brown had been killed by police years ago, according to Lauren Bonds, the legal director for the National Police Accountability Project.

Wooten said he was disappointed that a judge did not authorize the release of the footage on Wednesday.

But in the wake of a year of protests against police brutality and in the days after the conviction of Derek Chauvin for the murder of George Floyd, many people are demanding more transparency from police, John David, a strategic communications consultant, author and speaker, told USA Today.

"This just kind of sounds like the same stuff we’ve been hearing for years,” David said. Such assurances don't "necessarily hold water any more” in America.
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The police are telling me the shooting was justified. If so, then what's the problem with releasing the video? Wouldn't it bolster their defense?

At this point, they're fanning the flames.

It's not rocket science.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:27 pm The police are telling me the shooting was justified. If so, then what's the problem with releasing the video? Wouldn't it bolster their defense?

At this point, they're fanning the flames.

It's not rocket science.
Yeah, it's not making a whole lot of sense. Why do they have to spend so much time investigating if it's so clear that he hit them with the car twice? They are really making it hard to take anything they say at face value and people are naturally going to question whether law enforcement is being honest here because unfortunately so many times recently they've been shown to be outright lying.
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Good!
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Could something happen to the judge for being lax in scrutinizing the warrant?
Louisville police included multiple lies in Breonna Taylor warrant, former detective admits

The Louisville police detectives who drafted the search warrant for Breonna Taylor's home knew they were including multiple lies before approaching a judge, according to new federal court records.

The addendum to a plea agreement signed by Kelly Goodlett, one of four former officers charged last month by the U.S. Department of Justice, details how investigators allegedly worked to falsify the warrant affidavit to make a connection between drug suspect Jamarcus Glover and Taylor's Springfield Drive apartment.

It also claims that Goodlett's partner, former Detective Joshua Jaynes, made the decision to bring the affidavit to Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw. Goodlett admitted she had heard Jaynes "make comments suggesting that he believed that Judge Shaw would not closely scrutinize his warrants," the document says.

The addendum to Goodlett's Aug. 23 plea deal is the "factual basis" for her guilty plea. And it provides a behind-the-scenes account of officers intentionally working to tie a drug investigation into Glover and his associates in Louisville's Russell neighborhood to Taylor's apartment some 10 miles away.
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Breonna Taylor's Boyfriend Settles Lawsuits Over Shooting
Earlier this year, U.S. Justice Department prosecutors charged three Louisville officers with a conspiracy to falsify the Taylor warrant

The boyfriend of Breonna Taylor who fired a shot at police as they burst through Taylor's door the night she was killed has settled two lawsuits against the city of Louisville, his attorneys said Monday.

The city agreed to pay $2 million to settle lawsuits filed by Kenneth Walker in federal and state court, one of his attorneys, Steve Romines said in a written statement. He added that Taylor's death “will haunt Kenny for the rest of his life.”

“He will live with the effects of being put in harm’s way due to a falsified warrant, to being a victim of a hailstorm of gunfire and to suffering the unimaginable and horrific death of Breonna Taylor,” Romines said.
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Louisville Metro Police Department uses ‘excessive force’ and ‘unlawfully discriminates against Black people,’ DOJ report says

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The Justice Department issued a scathing critique Wednesday on the Louisville Metro Police Department after a nearly two-year review it launched into the force following the botched raid that killed Breonna Taylor.

The review, looking at whether the Louisville Metro Police Department used excessive force, found that officers use unreasonable tactics including unjustified neck restraints, police dogs and tasers. The report also found that the police department executes search warrants without knocking and announcing.

“For years, LMPD has practiced an aggressive style of policing that it deploys selectively, especially against Black people, but also against vulnerable people throughout the city,” the report said.

“LMPD cites people for minor offenses, like wide turns and broken taillights, while serious crimes like sexual assault and homicide go unsolved,” the report added. “Some officers demonstrate disrespect for the people they are sworn to protect. Some officers have videotaped themselves throwing drinks at pedestrians from their cars; insulted people with disabilities; and called Black people ‘monkeys,’ ‘animal,’ and ‘boy.’”

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced the results of the investigation Wednesday.

“This conduct is unacceptable. It is heartbreaking. It erodes the community trust necessary for effective policing and it is an affront to the vast majority of officers who put their lives on the line every day to serve Louisville with honor,” Garland said at a news conference. “And it is an affront to the people of Louisville who deserve better.”

The DOJ found that “police officers’ forcible and violent entry into a person’s home strikes at the heart of the constitutional protection against unreasonable government intrusion.”

“But Louisville Metro’s and LMPD’s unlawful conduct did not start in 2020. As an LMPD leader told us shortly after we opened this investigation, ‘Breonna Taylor was a symptom of problems that we have had for years,’” the report said.
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... which reminds me - we haven't seen LMK in a while.
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bill_g wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:06 pm ... which reminds me - we haven't seen LMK in a while.
I think she is just immersed in the position/award she took to work. Probably much more rewarding that tracking convoy nutters.
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