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The banks keep records of who was paid and how much. What will it take to get those records from their banks?
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So, the full AZ Senate will be back in session starting today.

I wonder if there are going yo be any fireworks?

I can't imagine that the entire Senate is all that happy about the total CF that Fann's little adventure turned into.

If I recall correctly, she barely had enough support for this to begin with.
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notorial dissent wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:59 pm Two things that come to mind with these bozos; there never were any real records, OR they destroyed what they had. Considering how totally inept and incompetent they were/are I would expect that a lot of it DID NOT go for what it was supposed to.
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Actually, they had an accountant....
Ken Bennet is a CPA.

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Arizona Senate President Karen Fann's failings are worse than the woeful Cyber Ninjas'
Opinion: The incompetence of the Ninjas is not only matched, but exceeded, by the Republican Arizona Senate president who hired them.
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Arizona Senate President Karen Fann could have avoided all of this if she had hired a competent firm to conduct her election audit. Instead, she hired the Cyber Ninjas.
The colossal incompetence of the Cyber Ninjas and their sham election audit cannot be overstated.

However, what is being colossally understated is the incompetence of the person who hired them, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, and the Republicans who supported her.

Last week, Maricopa Superior Court Judge John Hannah said he will fine the Cyber Ninjas, the contractor that led the disgraced and debunked Republican election review, $50,000 a day if the firm doesn’t immediately turn over emails, texts and other communications related to the ballot review. The Arizona Republic has sued for release of the documents under public records law.
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"Piercing the corporate veil" - I always loved that expression.
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PaulG wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:46 pm So when is the final season of Ozark airing? Or was this it?
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bbflatt wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:40 pm Trust Fund Recovery Penalty

If you are a person responsible for withholding, accounting for, or depositing or paying specified taxes including NRA withholding and employment taxes, and willfully fail to do so, you can be held personally liable for a penalty equal to the full amount of the unpaid trust fund tax, plus interest. A responsible person for this purpose can be an officer of a corporation, a partner, a sole proprietor, or an employee of any form of business. A trustee or agent with authority over the funds of the business can also be held responsible for the penalty.

"Willfully" in this case means voluntarily, consciously, and intentionally. You are acting willfully if you pay other expenses of the business instead of the withholding taxes.

See https://www.irs.gov/individuals/interna ... ry-penalty
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Arizona Senate President Karen Fann's failings are worse than the woeful Cyber Ninjas'
Arizona Senate President Karen Fann could have avoided all of this if she had hired a competent firm to conduct her election audit. Instead, she hired the Cyber Ninjas.
The colossal incompetence of the Cyber Ninjas and their sham election audit cannot be overstated.
A competent audit firm would not have guaranteed that they would find votes for Trump, which I strongly suspect CN promised. A competent firm would have operated openly and above board, which CN decidedly did not. A competent firm would have disclosed the source of its funding, which CN did not.

A competent firm would have conducted an audit, not an unauthorized recount, which is what CN did. An audit is not the same as a recount. An audit is done to insure that the PROCESS used by the state of Arizona and Maricopa County, to hold elections and count ballots, is valid. That is not what CN did.

In short, for Fann's purposes, CN was perfect. Unfortunately for her, it is all coming back to bite her.
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noblepa wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:50 pm
Arizona Senate President Karen Fann's failings are worse than the woeful Cyber Ninjas'
Arizona Senate President Karen Fann could have avoided all of this if she had hired a competent firm to conduct her election audit. Instead, she hired the Cyber Ninjas.
The colossal incompetence of the Cyber Ninjas and their sham election audit cannot be overstated.
A competent audit firm would not have guaranteed that they would find votes for Trump, which I strongly suspect CN promised. A competent firm would have operated openly and above board, which CN decidedly did not. A competent firm would have disclosed the source of its funding, which CN did not.

A competent firm would have conducted an audit, not an unauthorized recount, which is what CN did. An audit is not the same as a recount. An audit is done to insure that the PROCESS used by the state of Arizona and Maricopa County, to hold elections and count ballots, is valid. That is not what CN did.

In short, for Fann's purposes, CN was perfect. Unfortunately for her, it is all coming back to bite her.
According to Patrick Byrne, CN wanted to do an audit, but the AZ Senate was insisting on a recount, so they did both. Grain (pound?) of salt, and all.
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Also they relied on Vollunteers, who were probably genuine people convinced that if they did the recount right then DFO would win.
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notorial dissent wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:59 pm Two things that come to mind with these bozos; there never were any real records, OR they destroyed what they had. Considering how totally inept and incompetent they were/are I would expect that a lot of it DID NOT go for what it was supposed to.
Aren’t these the records sent to a super secret, totally safe bunker in one of the Dakotas?
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Phoenix520 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:24 pm
notorial dissent wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:59 pm Two things that come to mind with these bozos; there never were any real records, OR they destroyed what they had. Considering how totally inept and incompetent they were/are I would expect that a lot of it DID NOT go for what it was supposed to.
Aren’t these the records sent to a super secret, totally safe bunker in one of the Dakotas?
Montana, to an inactive business.
https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/arizo ... test-audit
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raison de arizona wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:50 pm Montana, to an inactive business.
https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/arizo ... test-audit
I really hope there is a follow up to that thread someday since that was a particularly odd and worrisome part.
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raison de arizona wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:14 pm
Wendy Rogers ✔
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The only good thing that CN has done is destroy Karen Fann politically and likely, personally.
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LM K wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:03 pm The only good thing that CN has done is destroy Karen Fann politically and likely, personally.
they have also put a huge dent in Mark Brnovich's Senate hopes...
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True about Karen and Mark. They deserve each other (and a nunchuck). Still patiently waiting for the 699th to "take care of it". :dog:

Thanks for posting EJ's column, he's a great writer. Thanked him and he retweeted the comment.





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orlylicious wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:41 pm Thanks for posting EJ's column, he's a great writer. Thanked him and he retweeted the comment.
I've literally been reading him for forty years. :thumbsup:
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:04 pm Also Dog Login, but he was on special assignment from the 699th.
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Lt. Biscuit!!! :kiss:

She looks ready to give Karen Fann what she deserves! The look of a cunning, vicious assassin* thirsty for Justice and hungry for... Pup-peroni!

Arizonans can sleep more easily tonight knowing Lt. Biscuit and the Mighty 699th are on the case! :boxing:


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House bill 2080 introduced in AZ to mandate hand jobs only :yankyank:
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raison de arizona wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:38 pm House bill 2080 introduced in AZ to mandate hand jobs only
That'll make counting all ballots by midnight a real challenge. :roll:

(One of the tiny lies in The Big Lie was that the U.S. Constitutioooooon!!! requires that ballots be counted on election day.)
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bob wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:43 pm (One of the tiny lies in The Big Lie was that the U.S. Constitutioooooon!!! requires that ballots be counted on election day.)
Well.. if they aren't counted by midnight, then election officials can just declare the winners. Easy peasy.
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