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Are trump's minions frantically creating "massive Hunter Biden evidence" as we speak?

And even if there was something legit on HB, are we supposed to believe the OSG was going to hide it as part of executive privilege?


Also, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Slim Cognito wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:59 am I wonder if the Saudis conned other presidents with fake gifts or was it just trump?
Other presidents were probably smart enough to decline (seemingly) expensive gifts.
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noblepa wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:02 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:59 am I wonder if the Saudis conned other presidents with fake gifts or was it just trump?
Other presidents were probably smart enough to decline (seemingly) expensive gifts.
If I remember correctly, all gifts to the President and his family from representatives of other governments, belong to the U.S. government. The President, though, may buy any of those gifts from the U.S. government at fair market value. I would imagine that the value of a faux tiger skin is significantly less than the value of a real skin.
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Faux furs for a faux fuehrer.
If you can't lie to yourself, who can you lie to?
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:13 am
noblepa wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:02 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:59 am I wonder if the Saudis conned other presidents with fake gifts or was it just trump?
Other presidents were probably smart enough to decline (seemingly) expensive gifts.
If I remember correctly, all gifts to the President and his family from representatives of other governments, belong to the U.S. government. The President, though, may buy any of those gifts from the U.S. government at fair market value. I would imagine that the value of a faux tiger skin is significantly less than the value of a real skin.
Wouldn't a real tiger skin run afoul of endangered species laws? I thought that such pelts were no longer permitted in the US.
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Uninformed wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:16 am Faux furs for a faux fuehrer.
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noblepa wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:12 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:13 am
noblepa wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:02 am

Other presidents were probably smart enough to decline (seemingly) expensive gifts.
If I remember correctly, all gifts to the President and his family from representatives of other governments, belong to the U.S. government. The President, though, may buy any of those gifts from the U.S. government at fair market value. I would imagine that the value of a faux tiger skin is significantly less than the value of a real skin.
Wouldn't a real tiger skin run afoul of endangered species laws? I thought that such pelts were no longer permitted in the US.
And there's trump's response. "Of course I knew it was fake. Nobody knows fur better than me. I told the guy to make sure it was fake."
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Ask Charlie Sheen if he thinks the former guy knows fake diamonds.

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that story never gets old.
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raison de arizona wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:06 am The butthurt was strong from tfg over Biden not exerting executive privilege over his nonsense seditionist crap. And the redefinitions of "The Big Lie" continue- good luck with that!
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Is there some law that Hunter Biden has to sit and collect unemployment for four years because his father is President?

I mean, aside from every irony meter on earth exploding at once here, am I missing something?
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My dad was a reporter, a Neiman Fellow. Not a journalist, they came after Watergate. In between reporting gigs, he was press secretary to Gov. Pat Brown, Transportation Secretary Alan Boyd, and editor of the National Journal.

The one constant in his life was never accepting gifts. From anyone. He turned down European trips, innumerable bottles of Scotch, jewelry, vacations, boat rides, free plane tickets. The worst thing he ever turned down, to my childish mind, was a lifetime pass to Disneyland. :lol: I’m sure there were other items I don’t know about. He was adamant, all his life, that they were effectively bribes and he wanted no part.
Whatever his faults, he was an honorable man.

It makes perfect sense to me that tfg and his hires had no such scruples.
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I assume that in the diplomatic world, sometimes refusing gifts can be taken as an insult and those diplomatic folks are a little touchy about that. Therefore, to make sure that it does not come off as a bribe or palm greasing, they ensure that it will not benefit the recipient, whether it be a diplomat, some WH staffer, a legislature, or the President, by making it a gift to the government, not the person. I assume other countries have similar rules but I figure Japan would have been quite happy to refuse the gift of puke that GHW Bush presented them.

tfg would understand none of this since he is entirely transactional and so does not see a larger diplomatic and government reason.

IIRC, some country gave Colin Powell a gift of an antique rifle, among other things (I forget which role he was in at the time but it would not matter). He rather liked the rifle so he chose to buy it from the government as is the policy. Alma was rather horrified at what he paid for a gun.
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If its not a bottle of whiskey or other consumable, its stupid for a President to try to fudge it... anything given to him can easily be arranged to be loaned to his Presidential Library and he'd effectively be able to have it for the rest of his life.

At the Presidential Libraries there are hundreds of things that they were given and are the property of the government but stored in the museums.
All of them so far, but Obama's will not, are part private foundation museum and part branch of the National Archives where the presidential papers and such are kept.

As for Pompeo and the $5,000 bottle of hooch. He had better pay for it or I'll be pissed. I DNGAF if he remembers or knows or who cares, it was given to him, there is film of him accepting it, and he is responsible for it, no matter what happened to it. If he didn't steal it (and that is what happened) then someone who works for him did, and FFS I'm sure they teach a few classes on responsibility and honor at West Point. I give him much less slack than most grifters because the United States educated him at an institution where they've been bragging about their Honor Code for 217 years. If he doesn't take that seriously, I sure do.
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Kleptocrats stealing stuff. Surprise!
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Small nit to pick, but you can't "dye" something white. You bleach something white.

And before you all roll your eyes at me, think of all the lawyers and computer people who have picked at nits the same size as this one. :biggrin:
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sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 am Small nit to pick, but you can't "dye" something white. You bleach something white.

And before you all roll your eyes at me, think of all the lawyers and computer people who have picked at nits the same size as this one. :biggrin:
Are you using “bleach” as a generic term for color removal? I mean, there are other chemicals besides bleach that remove color, right?
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Maybenaut wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:21 am
sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 am Small nit to pick, but you can't "dye" something white. You bleach something white.

And before you all roll your eyes at me, think of all the lawyers and computer people who have picked at nits the same size as this one. :biggrin:
Are you using “bleach” as a generic term for color removal? I mean, there are other chemicals besides bleach that remove color, right?
White toner.*

* Passed away Birther Henry "Hermitian" Blake had claims that said copiers used white toner to make some sections white.
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My copier has the best white toner. I put in a blank sheet of paper, select the number of copies I need, press START, and out comes fresh warm pieces of blank paper. Wonderful invention.
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Maybenaut wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:21 am
sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 am Small nit to pick, but you can't "dye" something white. You bleach something white.

And before you all roll your eyes at me, think of all the lawyers and computer people who have picked at nits the same size as this one. :biggrin:
Are you using “bleach” as a generic term for color removal? I mean, there are other chemicals besides bleach that remove color, right?
Yes, as a verb. And yes, many types of bleaching action are accomplished with other chemicals or through exposure to sunlight.
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And you can get white toner for coloured paper or tee-shirt printing and so on.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 am Small nit to pick, but you can't "dye" something white. You bleach something white.

And before you all roll your eyes at me, think of all the lawyers and computer people who have picked at nits the same size as this one. :biggrin:
I see your nit and I raise you one ultra-pedantic mega-nit.

It turns out that you actually can and do "dye" quite a few manufactured products with white pigment. Not fabric, perhaps, but a staggering number of everyday products. I discovered this last year doing an economic research project at work on the market for industrial metals.

The world consumes around 10 million tons of Titanium Dioxide annually, far more than it uses in the form of titanium metal to build airplanes, etc. Titanium dioxide is the most commonly used pigment on earth, making up about 2/3 of all pigment usage. It colors paints, pigments, white paper, food, cosmetics and toothpaste, among many other products.
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Rit Dye Powdered Fabric Dye, White Wash, 1 7/8-Ounce ??

Seems that, similar to Tom Sawyer, there seems to be active attempts by tfg’s allies to enlist as much help as possible to whitewash their failures (e.g. Jan 6 insurrection)
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