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jemcanada2 wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 am I haz questions. Does the declassification of documents belong to the office, not the person, like executive privilege does? If tfg didn’t actually declassify the purloined documents, does the choice to declassify them now belong to Biden or tfg?

This seems to be the Trumpers’ argument. Trump could declassify the documents at any time so no biggie.
It belongs to the office. He can't declassify anything after he's no longer in office.

ETA: But lets say for the sake of argument he declassified them on his last day, and forgot to update the stamps :roll: . He's still not allowed to put them all in boxes and put them on a plane to Florida when he left. The records are not his personal property.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:22 am
Dr. Ken wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:21 am The memes have started.

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So much for the idea that they wore suits to fool people into believing they were SS agents.
It’s a meme, not an actual photo from the day (I think).
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Maybenaut wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:46 am
jemcanada2 wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 am I haz questions. Does the declassification of documents belong to the office, not the person, like executive privilege does? If tfg didn’t actually declassify the purloined documents, does the choice to declassify them now belong to Biden or tfg?

This seems to be the Trumpers’ argument. Trump could declassify the documents at any time so no biggie.
It belongs to the office. He can't declassify anything after he's no longer in office.

ETA: But lets say for the sake of argument he declassified them on his last day, and forgot to update the stamps :roll: . He's still not allowed to put them all in boxes and put them on a plane to Florida when he left. The records are not his personal property.
Thanks, Maybenaut! That’s useful information.
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wptv.com is the local teevee station, they have a fair amount of their own video.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:55 am
sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:22 am
Dr. Ken wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:21 am The memes have started.

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So much for the idea that they wore suits to fool people into believing they were SS agents.
It’s a meme, not an actual photo from the day (I think).
Good point, so I went and looked.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... ents-trump

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more rumors

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pipistrelle wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:59 am
Blend in?

The joint is closed for the summer, so.. they were invisible?
What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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Tweet from @TheRickWilson:
It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such as perfect raid.
The thread is hysterical!

Our homes were never raided by the FBI. https://t.co/ahZ7crvu7c
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The loudest voice tonight is the silence of Mitch McConnell.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 am Tweet from @TheRickWilson:
It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such as perfect raid.
The thread is hysterical!
Is there a link to it?
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Kriselda Gray wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:54 am
Is there a link to it?
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu ... 3346850817
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Oh go fuck the right off Andrew
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Thank you, Suranis! :lovestruck:
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https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowit ... -care-plan

Feds Seizing Documents at Mar-a-Lago Unable to Find Trump’s Health-care Plan
F.B.I. agents swarming over Donald J. Trump’s Florida estate reported that they have so far been unable to locate the health-care plan that he had promised to deliver while President.

“Trump said that the plan was terrific and beautiful and far better than Obamacare,” Harland Dorrinson, the lead F.B.I. agent searching the estate, said. “If we could get our hands on it, that would be a game changer for our country.”

Agents cracked open the former President’s safe but were frustrated in their attempts to find any documents with the words “health” or “care” in them.
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The "Forward" marketing blitz is off to a great start.
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Suranis wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:57 am
Kriselda Gray wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:54 am
Is there a link to it?
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu ... 3346850817
Thanks - that was funny!
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Donald Trump has a copy of the search warrant. He’d show us the warrant if he were so wronged. Show it or shut it.
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Maybenaut wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:49 pmI wonder if they took this warrant to a federal judge rather than a federal magistrate. Do we know that yet? I haven't seen any mention one way or the other.
Per Miami Herald:
The source said FBI agents obtained a search warrant from a federal magistrate judge in West Palm Beach to gather dozens of boxes containing alleged classified materials that President Trump had taken with him when he left the White House in January 2021.
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Maybenaut wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:49 pmFederal judges are appointed; federal magistrates are chosen by the federal district court judges in the district.
:fingerwag:

... the article doesn't actually say Obama nominated Reinhart; it is silent as to how magistrates are hired. Reinhardt was hired in 2018.

And the article notes Reinhart also donated to Jeb Bush in 2015.

As for Epstein, Reinhart was an AUSA, purportedly on the Epstein team, and then went to private practice, a practice that included Epstein-related defendants. But all that happened before Obama took office.
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Greatgrey wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:43 am
pipistrelle wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:59 am
Blend in?

The joint is closed for the summer, so.. they were invisible?
The idea was to drop in humorous photos of what it means to blend in to Trump World.
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Dr. Ken wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:23 am Feds Seizing Documents at Mar-a-Lago Unable to Find Trump’s Health-care Plan
F.B.I. agents swarming over Donald J. Trump’s Florida estate reported that they have so far been unable to locate the health-care plan that he had promised to deliver while President.
The health care plan is right underneath the plan for Infrastructure Week.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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PaulG wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:43 am
SuzieC wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:59 pm Transferred to a third party. Who, for instance? What, for instance? What could be so bad and so urgent that it warrants an FBI raid on a former President's residence, which has never happened before.
I think it has to involve someone with "V" in his name. (Not Volkonski)
>Gasp!< You mean Villary Clinton?!?
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