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tek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:18 pm But you can be sure Squidney ain't gonna be buying a Ford with the money she saves.

Prolly gonna to to Dominion if I had to guess.

woodworker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:13 pm

tek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:18 pm But you can be sure Squidney ain't gonna be buying a Ford with the money she saves.

Prolly gonna to to Dominion if I had to guess.

I suspect Squidney is busy squirreling away everything she can offshore.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:26 pm They can spend their $182k on pork chops and applesauce for all care, as long as they find a way to extract it from Sidney Powell. And how about some punitive damages as well!

Gregg wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:18 pm ... and when you get to commercially equipped medium duty F-650 and F-750 they run around $150k by the time the aftermarket partner gets done putting all the bells and whistles on them.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:26 pm They can spend their $182k on pork chops and applesauce for all care, as long as they find a way to extract it from Sidney Powell. And how about some punitive damages as well!

somerset wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:21 pm

woodworker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:13 pm

tek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:18 pm But you can be sure Squidney ain't gonna be buying a Ford with the money she saves.

Prolly gonna to to Dominion if I had to guess.

I suspect Squidney is busy squirreling away everything she can offshore.

If she is, she will likely find out that the US government's reach is a lot longer than she realized. Hiding assets "offshore" is a lot harder than it looks in the movies

chancery wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:48 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:26 pm They can spend their $182k on pork chops and applesauce for all care, as long as they find a way to extract it from Sidney Powell. And how about some punitive damages as well!

Folks, we need to keep our expectations within reason.

First, forget about punitive damages. That's never been on the table. As we say these days, it's "not a thing" in this situation.

Second, the assumptions (some of which are extremely unreasonable) and rules developed by federal courts for evaluating requests for attorneys fees result in awards that are usually quite a bit lower than what the requesting party actually spent on legal fees. There are a number of reasons for this, but the most fundamental one is the longstanding and unshakable belief of federal judges that the value of fully compensatory fee awards as a deterrent against frivolous and bad faith litigation would be outweighed by the burden on the court system due to the hurricane of additional collateral litigation that would ensue once lawyers were given reason to think that such fee awards were available.

It wouldn't surprise me if the judge awards the City of Detroit less than $100k. Mike Dunford, after a quick look at Campbell's objections, said that if he were forced to make a prediction, it would be that the City of Detroit will be given an award that is somewhere between $45k and $65k. That strikes me as a bit on the pessimistic side, but it's not unreasonable.

Edited to tinker with prose.

bob wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:28 pm Powell's cross-complaint is rather Klayman-esque: unironically accuses Dominion of engaging in lawfare to sully her good name, and seeks $10M in damages.

noblepa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:25 pm The nutjobs keep going on about the 12th Amendment.

I have read the 12th Amendment several times, and I simply don't see anything in it that gives the VP any authority to do anything other than open the envelopes containing the electoral votes, and to announce the results.

What are they seeing that I am not? What tortured interpretation of the amendment are they using to argue that the VP can unilaterally discard electoral votes that have been duly certified by the states?

Even if their interpretation were correct, they seem to be arguing that Pence had an OBLIGATION to discard votes for Biden; that he had no discretion in the matter.

woodworker wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:47 pm They are arguing the rule of five -- Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett and Roberts.

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The Untold Election Case that Should Have Stopped the Coup
Why Nancy Pelosi Had to Hurry on January 6
By Sidney Powell

Among other conservatives that stood up for President Trump amidst the theft of the 2020 election, the legal team that became Defending the Republic challenged election results in multiple states and produced hundreds of pages of evidence of widespread election fraud. The Left’s mantra of “no evidence” is pure propaganda.

As the world watched, our four fraud cases across the disputed states were dismissed by each of four federal judges. The courts threw out the cases on the democrats “talking points”—technicalities many of which were pulled from the dustbin of legal history. Not a single of our cases was heard, despite hundreds of affidavits, statistical studies proving mathematical impossibilities, disappearance of mail ballots, mysterious appearances of perfect ballots, evidence of technological manipulation of the vote, and even video of women pulling suitcases from under tables after a staged pipe burst evacuation, and of ballot workers shoving the same ballots through the machines repeatedly coinciding with an impossible spike in votes all for Biden. All this was set against a backdrop of an unprecedented and inexplicable stoppage of vote counting across multiple states, followed by the appearance of hundreds of thousands of votes in block injections for Biden, somehow overcoming, by a slim margin, what was previously a massive shortage of Biden votes.

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It appeared that the courts were afraid to hear the cases. Americans who had counted on our Article III courts to take up these issues to protect the Republic and our Constitution were left to wonder if this was the law, cowardice, or corruption in the courts. The entire Article III judiciary put its collective head in the sand on the most important issue to face the Republic. This was a constitutional crisis.

We had one silver bullet—that made them all panic. Our fifth and final election law case did not challenge the election of any single state. Instead, it raised a constitutional challenge to the Electoral Count Act itself.

The Electoral Count Act was passed by Congress in 1887 and sought to alter the effect of the 12th Amendment of the US Constitution. The 12th Amendment provides that, in a disputed election, the Vice President would shift the determination of the election to the House, where the House of Representatives chooses the President by “one vote per state delegation”—a fitting design as House members are elected every two years and therefore subject to their constituents’ viewpoints more directly than Senators with six-year terms. The Electoral Count Act shifted the determination of the election away from the House to a bicameral process.

Under the 12th Amendment’s one vote per state delegation, in 2020, Republicans had a substantial lead with 27 states where Republicans outnumbered Democrats, 3 states where representation was tied, and 20 states where Democrats led. If the 12th Amendment applied, Trump may or may not have won outright as some Republicans opposed him; however, as long as Biden were denied the majority of states, then Pence would have been the victor; and in either case, Biden would have properly been denied the presidency.

Our case, Louis Gohmert, et al., Applicants v. Michael R. Pence, Vice President of the United States, challenged use of the Electoral Count Act as unconstitutional. Our filing was immediately brought to the attention of Nancy Pelosi who sought to become party and oppose us, but Reps. McCarthy and Scalise opposed her in an internal House leadership vote. McCarthy and Scalise supported Ghomert and the application of the 12th amendment. Republican Leadership’s opposition prevented Pelosi from being able to join as a party to the lawsuit, so instead, she was forced to file an Amicus brief.

We filed for an injunction at SCOTUS on January 6th, the day of the electoral count. We filed electronically and had a congressman deliver the paper filing required by SCOTUS. The Congressman was turned back by Capitol Hill Police, due to the unrest. We succeeded in getting the case docketed at 3:51 pm on January 6th.

Given Pelosi’s participation as amicus, she would receive notice of the Gohmert filing for an injunction with the Supreme Court. She would understand that Justice Alito could alone enter an injunction against use of the Electoral Count Act because he is the Circuit Justice for Louie Gohmert’s district.

Abandoning any concern for mass covid infection from the deplorables in the Capitol, Pelosi fired her political kill shot: she shockingly announced at 6:30 pm that members would resume the count at 8 pm—just hours after Michael Byrd killed Ashley Babbitt and demonstrators were still in the Capitol.

While Vice President Pence presided over the ceremony, curiously, it was Pelosi herself who announced counting would resume. At 8:00, the process promptly resumed, objections failed to prevent Biden’s election, and the joint session was dissolved by Pence at 3:44 a.m.

Notably, Pelosi’s rush to restart at 8 pm did not prevent the process’ continuation to January 7th. Members could have gone home to rest and resumed the vote early in the morning without losing a day. In other words, nothing would have changed regarding the date of the completion of the count. The absurdity of driving Congress to complete a process amidst such unrest was driven by something entirely different.

Speaker Pelosi had to act quickly to prevent Justice Alito from enjoining application of the Electoral Count Act and throwing a big wrench in the democrats’ coup.

The next morning, with no comment, SCOTUS denied the injunction without prejudice — a rapid response as Pelosi had already beaten the Court to it. Had Pelosi not rushed, the outcome of the case could have been different, and the President as well.