Another Shooting

[AndyinPA]

Too also, and this is maybe weird maybe not, for a couple of days before this I’ve been seeing stuff about the 7 Mountain Mandate (7MM) which, coincidentally ? is a big thing for the AF Academy in ColoSprings. Weird that there was so much of it on social media. Did you notice that too?

How the fuck does that kind of religious gobbledygook become a big thing at the AF Academy?

That has been going on for decades, I think.

[Kriselda Gray]

Too also, and this is maybe weird maybe not, for a couple of days before this I’ve been seeing stuff about the 7 Mountain Mandate (7MM) which, coincidentally ? is a big thing for the AF Academy in ColoSprings. Weird that there was so much of it on social media. Did you notice that too?

How the fuck does that kind of religious gobbledygook become a big thing at the AF Academy?

That has been going on for decades, I think.

Huh. Maybe that's how my near-atheist party-boy ex-boyfriend who joined the AF wound up as an evangelical asshole who cheated on his wife among other hypocrices.

[Phoenix520]

First time I heard about this was right after 9/11. All those former military the Bushies deployed to talk up the Iraq invasion were screaming about a religious war with Islam and how America needs to God up to defeat it. They’ve been maneuvering ever since.

[poplove]

PatriotTakes
@patriottakes
The mom of the Colorado Springs nightclub shooter follows several gun manufacturers and gun themed accounts on Instagram.

[Ben-Prime]

How the fuck does that kind of religious gobbledygook become a big thing at the AF Academy?

That has been going on for decades, I think.

Huh. Maybe that's how my near-atheist party-boy ex-boyfriend who joined the AF wound up as an evangelical asshole who cheated on his wife among other hypocrices.

It's also what made my cousin, while serving in the Air Force, become more devoutly Jewish as a reactionary reflex.

[bill_g]

[Kendra]

“Therefore, we will be identifying the victims by how they identified themselves and how their families have loved and identified them.”

[Gupwalla]

He’s been good with his media appearances. He’s also very empathetic to the “safe space” nature of gay social venues, especially in deeply conservative parts of the country.

Dave Cullen was on Nicole Wallace and shared stories of his early pre-out visits to nightclubs. It was eye-opening.

[Kendra]

Just ended on CNN, John Berman spoke with the gentleman (sorry, forget his name, I'm too busy bawling) about how he intervened and stopped the shooter. I assume video will be up shortly, but my God, I am an emotional wreck at the moment. Thank God, I can't imagine how worse things could have been without him.

[neonzx]

[neonzx]

[somerset]

Gift article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/us/c ... =share-url

“He saved a lot of lives,” Mayor John Suthers said of Mr. Fierro. The mayor said he had spoken to Mr. Fierro and was struck by his humility. “I have never encountered a person who engaged in such heroic actions and was so humble about it.”

It was supposed to be a chill family night out — the combat veteran and his wife, Jess, joined their daughter, Kassandra, her longtime boyfriend Raymond Green Vance, and two family friends to watch one of his daughter’s friends perform a drag act.

It was Mr. Fierro’s first time at a drag show, and he was digging it. He had spent 15 years in the Army, and now relished his role as a civilian and a father, watching one of his daughter’s old high-school friends perform.

It was a staccato of flashes by the front door, the familiar sound of small-arms fire. Mr. Fierro knew it too well. Without thinking, he hit the floor, pulling his friend down with him. Bullets sprayed across the bar, smashing bottles and glasses. People screamed. Mr. Fierro looked up and saw a figure as big as a bear, easily more than 300 pounds, wearing body armor and carrying a rifle a lot like the one he had carried in Iraq. The shooter was moving through the bar toward a door leading to a patio where dozens of people had fled.

The two crashed to the floor. The gunman’s military-style rifle clattered just out of reach. Mr. Fierro started to go for it, but then saw the gunman come up with a pistol in his other hand.

“I grabbed the gun out of his hand and just started hitting him in the head, over and over,” Mr. Fierro said.

As he held the man down and slammed the pistol down on his skull, Mr. Fierro started barking orders. He yelled for another club patron, using a string of expletives, to grab the rifle then told the patron to start kicking the gunman in the face. A drag dancer was passing by, and Mr. Fierro said he ordered her to stomp the attacker with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter with the pistol while screaming obscenities.

[Volkonski]

Amazing that the shooter survived.

[Slim Cognito]

Can't wait to hear that prison convo:

How'd you get those scars? Knife fight? Gang war?

I got stomped in the face by a drag queen.

[Kriselda Gray]

“Therefore, we will be identifying the victims by how they identified themselves and how their families have loved and identified them.”

I though that was so cool

[AndyinPA]

I noticed that, too. It's really the way it should be done.

[Kendra]

Make sure you have a box of tissue at hand before watching this. Thank God he was there, but what a price.

[Dr. Ken]

Unarmed military vet Major Richard Fierro talking about disarming the shooter.

[Suranis]

In fairness, its a lot easier to jump on someone in the middle of a crowded club with people all around him, than to charge into a room through the only entrance with the gunman covering the door with an assault weapon.

[bill_g]

An argument over whether the shooter's religion incited this. YMMV

[bill_g]

In fairness, its a lot easier to jump on someone in the middle of a crowded club with people all around him, than to charge into a room through the only entrance with the gunman covering the door with an assault weapon.

Good morning Suranis. I'll concede your point. I think it was the right guy in the right place at the right time. The stars aligned. Incredible luck. It could have gone sideways so fast. Thankfully, it didn't.

[Kendra]

If you’re a politician or media figure who sets up the LGBTQ community to be hated and feared - not because any of us ever harmed you but because you find it useful - then don’t you dare act surprised when this kind of violence follows.

Don’t you dare act surprised.

[Suranis]

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/statu ... 6851988483

If you’re a politician or media figure who sets up the LGBTQ community to be hated and feared - not because any of us ever harmed you but because you find it useful - then don’t you dare act surprised when this kind of violence follows.

Don’t you dare act surprised.

Sigh. Ok. Look, I hate to be THE GUY that points out the obvious here, but...

America is a violent country. This is a thread called "Another Shooting" There's 400 odd mass shootings a year in the USA. If this is the first shooting in a Queer gathering place in a while or ever, that is NOT showing that they are particularly hated. There's been a lot more shootings in Churches than gay bars.

So this, while tragic, is NOT showing that they are a particularly hated group with constant gun pogroms against them. I can understand politically Butageg screaming to high heavens with victimhood politics flowing. But objectively, in terms of gun violence at least, this is an outlier, not an indicator of anything other than how RARELY this happens in those places.

So, if shootings at Gay nightclubs are rare, they are not indicating victimhood or hatred, quite the opposite in fact. Any more than that shooting at that Batman movie indicates that People who like Batman are a persecuted minority who have had hatred whipped up against them by a Right wing noise machine.

Hell, if anyone should be called out for getting hatred whipped up against them, based on number of Shootings, Its teachers and children.

[raison de arizona]

Pulse

[Kendra]

The dude who took down the Colorado shooter owns a brewery.

His wife is the brewmaster.

They have merch: https://atrevidabeerco.com/product-page ... t-s-on-tap