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Suranis wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:01 pm Sigh. Ok. Look, I hate to be THE GUY that points out the obvious here, but...
Whoa that's some crazy shit, dude. You okay?
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Suranis wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:01 pm Sigh. Ok. Look, I hate to be THE GUY that points out the obvious here, but...
You're missing the true picture because you're only focusing on the location and not the victim. Gay clubs aren't the only place gays are killed. They can be killed just about anywhere, and they are killed in high numbers - frequently *solely* because someone objects to their being gay, often triggered by something as simple as showing a bit of affection to their date or partner.

I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I expect that every weekend, at least as many gays are killed for being gay as we're killed in this week's shooting, and at least as many are beaten and injured as we're injured in that event. You just don't hear about them because they're not mass shootings, and this one was. But just because they're not reported it doesn't mean they aren't happening.
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Of course it’s easier, but in Uvalde that was their job and they didn’t even try.
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Kriselda Gray wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:26 pm You just don't hear about them because they're not mass shootings, and this one was. But just because they're not reported it doesn't mean they aren't happening.
Welll, that is the general pattern of mass shootings. They are rare, they are dramatic, they are news... thus they get the bulk of the attention. Other more common types of violence much less so.. thus we hyper focus on how to solve the zebra while ignoring all the horses.
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Just starting the obvious but gays aren't the only people who frequent gay bars. We have (at least) one in my Ft Myers burb and my friends and I love hanging there. Great entertainment, friendly people and always a good time. And I'm hooked on the Bingo.

Also, fuck those assholes who don't like it. I'll take a gay bar over a honky tonk any day of the wee k.
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Michelle Wolf @MichelleWolfTV wrote: #BREAKING Chesapeake police confirm they responded to the Sam’s Circle Walmart for an active shooter. Multiple people have died and multiple people are injured.

#UPDATE A Chesapeake police spokesperson tells us at this point he believes no more than 10 people have died. It’s unclear if the shooter was an employee. The shooter is now deceased. Officers are walking through the Walmart super center checking for victims. @WAVY_News
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I'm on my way to bed, but just read there has been another shooting in a Walmart in Chesapeake, Virginia. Multiple fatalities. The link doesn't work.






Edited to add different link.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/b ... d-28561188
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Totally unconfirmed, up to you. Echoes another report I saw though.
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Suranis wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:36 am
bill_g wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:57 am Image
In fairness, its a lot easier to jump on someone in the middle of a crowded club with people all around him, than to charge into a room through the only entrance with the gunman covering the door with an assault weapon.
At least 2 doors and a wall of windows.
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I thought at first this morning I'd picked up something unverified, but here it is from The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... e-virginia
Six people were killed and four wounded in a shooting at a Walmart in Virginia late on Tuesday night, police said, in the second high-profile mass killing in the US in a handful of days. The assailant was also dead. Police said the suspect was a store employee.

The chief of Chesapeake police, Mark Solesky, told reporters on Wednesday the gunman killed himself. There was no clear motive for the shooting, Solesky said. The gunman’s home was searched but Solesky did not give his name because his family had not been notified.

Solesky said the shooter used a pistol. He could not confirm if the victims were all employees.

A witness, however, told ABC News the gunman was a manager who opened fire on fellow employees gathered in the break room.
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On MSNBC, they just interrupted the news of the shooting in Virginia with news of a shooting :crying: in Philadelphia.
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AndyinPA wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:13 pm On MSNBC, they just interrupted the news of the shooting in Virginia with news of a shooting :crying: in Philadelphia.
There was a shooting in Oklahoma Sunday evening with 4 dead, one wounded that I haven't even seen mentioned on the national news.
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I read this morning there have been 31 mass shootings in November alone. I went to Gun Violence Archive to check and it was, by count, 32. Words are inadequate. :crying:
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WTH, do they have him medicated?

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I hope they have him on suicide watch. He looks dead already inside.
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They are non-binary. They changed their name because they were bullied online. Their father is an adult film star named Dick Delaware. There’s a page somewhere on the the internets dedicated to hating on them.

This is going to take a lot of sorting and I already hate how bad it will get.
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neonzx wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:43 pm WTH, do they have him medicated?

From the reports, they (thanks Phoenix520 for the update on identity) were beaten severely while being subdued. I would not be surprised to find out they are on pretty hefty painkillers.
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:34 pm
neonzx wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:43 pm WTH, do they have him medicated?

From the reports, they (thanks Phoenix520 for the update on identity) were beaten severely while being subdued. I would not be surprised to find out they are on pretty hefty painkillers.
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Can a drunk person sign a legally binding contract?

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I imagine he expected to die.
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Wikipedia:
He is the father of Anderson Lee Aldrich, the accused perpetrator of the Club Q shooting on November 19, 2022.[4] In an interview after the shooting, Brink said that when he learned the shooting was at a gay bar, he was initially horrified by the possibility that Anderson might be gay, then relieved to find out that wasn’t the case. [5]
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pipistrelle wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:57 pm Wikipedia:
He is the father of Anderson Lee Aldrich, the accused perpetrator of the Club Q shooting on November 19, 2022.[4] In an interview after the shooting, Brink said that when he learned the shooting was at a gay bar, he was initially horrified by the possibility that Anderson might be gay, then relieved to find out that wasn’t the case. [5]
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Ugly. I need a shower. I need to pretend this person doesn’t really exist in our world . Fuck.
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I think daddy needs another shot.

ETA: Did I hear him say he was "Mormon" -- that drunk ass? :rotflmao: '

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Yeah, maybe we need an government application for those who want to procreate.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:12 pm Ugly. I need a shower. I need to pretend this person doesn’t really exist in our world . Fuck.
This.
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I also think I read somewhere that he was a Mormon.

Edited to add: I tried to watch one of the videos, but I didn't last more than about a minute. :cantlook:
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