Another Shooting
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Read.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/08/us/h ... index.html
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/08/us/h ... index.html
Highland Park gunman's family was in turmoil for years leading up to parade shooting
But behind the scenes, the Crimo family was in turmoil. Police reports show that officers were regularly called to their home over domestic disputes between Crimo and his wife, and in 2019, police briefly confiscated a collection of knives after then 18-year-old Bobby threatened to "kill everyone."
More recently, after the once-bustling deli closed, the family appeared to fall into dire financial straits, with foreclosure cases proceeding against both of the homes they owned and Bob Crimo telling a judge several weeks ago he was on food stamps.
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So, the parents are in foreclosure and on food stamps. How did they retain a high-priced defense firm?
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They own two homes but they still qualified for food stamps? When I had to take a month off for open abdominal surgery, and had zero income, including an ex who wouldn’t pay child support, I had to beg to get one month’s worth of food stamps. When I went back to work, I had to wait two weeks to get my paycheck so I asked for a two week extension and they denied me bc I was working. But us Democrats are the leeches?
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And how was the kid earning money enough to pay for guns and ammo? Where was he keeping these items? He was living in a shack in the back yard of dad's house. Did the kid know he was going to be booted out of the place due to his dad not paying the mortgage?
SOOOOO many questions.
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The whole article paints the parents as pieces of work. Domestic incidents (both). Mother left toddler in car in 79-degree weather. They owe more than $1 million on properties, to vendors, etc. They never picked the kid up from school or activities on time-he was always last one left. Dad says he can still hold head high-he didn't do nuffin'. Much denial. And this is in what sounds like an affluent suburb. I'm interested in the psychology of how people present externally (happy deli owners, pillar of community, etc.) and what is going on internally, which in this case were universes apart.
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When I was 14, I was 6'0" and 98 pounds. The only drugs I took were whatever they gave me for appendicitis (I earned my Lifesaving merit badge 6 weeks after surgery, so I was definitely healthy - that's considered one of the most physically rigorous badges). I think I got up to 130 by the end of high school.northland10 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:34 pm MTG tweeted that he was 22, 5'11" and 120 pounds and that is not healthy so it must be drugs and stuff. Um.. 22 5'11" and 120 pounds? That was me.
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Yeah, and he tried to commit suicide by machete.
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To my way of thinking, when you sign for a permit with someone you are saying that you believe this person was trustworthy and that you would be responsible for misuse of the weapon. So the father saying he was not culpable despite signing for the gun is ducking responsibility.
I'm pretty sure he did it because the son terrorized him into signing for it, btu that does not change the fact his ink is on the dotted line.
As for "how did they afford X" if you skip meals and save the money, you can afford anything. That's one way addicts get money for their addiction. The body can run for quite a while on insufficient nutrition.
I'm pretty sure he did it because the son terrorized him into signing for it, btu that does not change the fact his ink is on the dotted line.
As for "how did they afford X" if you skip meals and save the money, you can afford anything. That's one way addicts get money for their addiction. The body can run for quite a while on insufficient nutrition.
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Kids stealing and pawning family possessions for cash works too.
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Yeah, my money is on pawn shops, too.
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The father probably isn't criminally culpable - anymore. Daddy only signed to the effect that he would be responsible for the minor applicant's actions. Li'l Bobby is no longer a minor and is thus capable of obtaining a FOID without parental consent. Still open to civil lawsuits, however.
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I dunno. This one strikes me more like the dad just didn't give a damn and did it because that was the easiest thing to do - no coercion needed.
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Yep, the story is largely about the parents being indifferent and uninvolved and too busy fighting.Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:36 pmI dunno. This one strikes me more like the dad just didn't give a damn and did it because that was the easiest thing to do - no coercion needed.
The story refers to a brother.
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Maybe this is it. I sobbed at the end of this Ted Talk. Love those who deserve it less.
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The front door of my apartment building got shot out last night. Idiots coming out of a nightclub that shouldn't be here in the first place. Black on black violence. A bullet fragment landed a foot away from my mailbox. The cops said "call your councilperson." Yeah right, like she's gonna stop it.
The crime wave we're experiencing is part of the gentrification toolkit, to purposely scare away the long-term residents, demolish our buildings and build luxury towers for transitory tech heads. Some thugs carry guns, others carry briefcases. The rest of us are collateral damage.
The crime wave we're experiencing is part of the gentrification toolkit, to purposely scare away the long-term residents, demolish our buildings and build luxury towers for transitory tech heads. Some thugs carry guns, others carry briefcases. The rest of us are collateral damage.
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https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local ... e4735fbe374 dead, 2 wounded in shooting at Greenwood Park Mall
GREENWOOD, Ind. — Police are investigating a shooting at Greenwood Park Mall that happened around 6 p.m. Sunday.
Four people are dead and two others wounded in the shooting. Police tell 13News the shooter is among those dead.
Greenwood Chief James Ison said two others were wounded in the shooting and are being treated at area hospitals.
This is about 10 minutes from my house.
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The shooter was killed by an armed "Good Samaritan." Great!
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone was able to stop him before he killed more people but after years of all we need is a "good guy with a gun" to stop these shootings, one finally comes through. Problem solved.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone was able to stop him before he killed more people but after years of all we need is a "good guy with a gun" to stop these shootings, one finally comes through. Problem solved.
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Yeah, on faux noise and other sites, that will be the headline.
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A friend of mine - who I hadn't seen in several years after I became homebound - killed his next door neighbor and two people at a mall. He was killed by an off-duty cop. The cop got cited by locals for a while as the example of a "good guy with a gun." I'm glad someone was able to stop him, but for some reason it bothered me that his death was politicized like that.Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 pm The shooter was killed by an armed "Good Samaritan." Great!
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone was able to stop him before he killed more people but after years of all we need is a "good guy with a gun" to stop these shootings, one finally comes through. Problem solved.
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Found elsewhere - 72 hour weekend shootings stats:
342 Shootings; 143 Dead; 305 Wounded.
But 1 good guy stopped 1 bad guy...
342 Shootings; 143 Dead; 305 Wounded.
But 1 good guy stopped 1 bad guy...
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This is entirely too close to the hotel I’ll be staying at the rest of this week…
I guess this could go in the Cops Behaving Badly as well. I’ve been hearing for years that Colorado cops are bad news. FWIW.
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/07/17/2 ... -shooting/Denver police injure 5 bystanders in LoDo while shooting man who allegedly pointed gun at officers
Suspect shot by police, Jordan Waddy, 21, was arrested on suspicion of felony menacing
Denver police injured five bystanders when they opened fire in the busy Lower Downtown nightlife district as bars closed early Sunday, shooting a man they allege pointed a gun at officers.
Those bystanders — three women and two men — were either shot by police or injured with shrapnel from the officers’ bullets, Denver police said in a news release Sunday afternoon. All five are expected to survive.
The man police say pointed a gun at officers, 21-year-old Jordan Waddy, is also expected to survive his injuries. Waddy did not fire the gun, according to the news release. Police arrested him on suspicion of felony menacing and possession of a weapon by a previous offender.
I guess this could go in the Cops Behaving Badly as well. I’ve been hearing for years that Colorado cops are bad news. FWIW.
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