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Dominion v Fox - Dominion Voting Sues Fox News for $1.6B over 2020 Election Claims in Delaware

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Dominion Voting sues Fox for $1.6B over 2020 election claims
By COLLEEN LONG March 26, 2021 GMT

WASHINGTON (AP) — Dominion Voting Systems on Friday filed a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, arguing the cable news giant falsely claimed in an effort to boost faltering ratings that the voting company had rigged the 2020 election. It’s the first defamation suit filed against a media outlet by the voting company, which was a target of misleading, false and bizarre claims spread by President Donald Trump and his allies in the aftermath of Trump’s election loss to Joe Biden. Those claims helped spur on rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 in a violent siege that left five people dead, including a police officer. The siege led to Trump’s historic second impeachment. Dominion argues that Fox News, which amplified inaccurate assertions that Dominion altered votes, “sold a false story of election fraud in order to serve its own commercial purposes, severely injuring Dominion in the process,” according to a copy of the lawsuit obtained by The Associated Press.

“The truth matters. Lies have consequences,” the lawsuit said. “Fox sold a false story of election fraud in order to serve its own commercial purposes, severely injuring Dominion in the process. If this case does not rise to the level of defamation by a broadcaster, then nothing does.” Some Fox News on-air reporting segments have debunked some of the claims targeting Dominion. An email sent to Fox News on Friday morning, seeking comment on the lawsuit, was not immediately returned. There was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election, a fact that a range of election officials across the country — and even Trump’s attorney general, William Barr — have confirmed. Republican governors in Arizona and Georgia, key battleground states crucial to Biden’s victory, also vouched for the integrity of the elections in their states. Nearly all the legal challenges from Trump and his allies were dismissed by judges, including two tossed by the Supreme Court, which has three Trump-nominated justices.

Still, some Fox News employees elevated false charges that Dominion had changed votes through algorithms in its voting machines that had been created in Venezuela to rig elections for the late dictator Hugo Chavez. On-air personalities brought on Trump allies Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, who spread the claims, and then amplified those claims on Fox News’ massive social media platforms. Dominion said in the lawsuit that it tried repeatedly to set the record straight but was ignored by Fox News. The company argues that Fox News, a network that features several pro-Trump personalities, pushed the false claims to explain away the former president’s loss. The cable giant lost viewers after the election and was seen by some Trump supporters as not being supportive enough of the Republican.

Attorneys for Dominion said Fox News’ behavior differs greatly from that of other media outlets that reported on the claims. “This was a conscious, knowing business decision to endorse and repeat and broadcast these lies in order to keep its viewership,” said attorney Justin Nelson, of Susman Godfrey. Though Dominion serves 28 states, until the 2020 election it had been largely unknown outside the election community. It is now widely targeted in conservative circles, seen by millions of people as one of the main villains in a fictional tale in which Democrats nationwide conspired to steal votes from Trump, the lawsuit said. Dominion’s employees, from its software engineers to its founder, have been harassed. Some received death threats. And the company has suffered “enormous and irreparable economic harm,” lawyers said.

Dominion has also sued Giuliani, Powell and the CEO of Minnesota-based MyPillow over the claims. A rival technology company, Smartmatic USA, also sued Fox News over election claims. Unlike Dominion, Smartmatic’s participation in the 2020 election was restricted to Los Angeles County. Dominion lawyers said they have not yet filed lawsuits against specific media personalities at Fox News but the door remains open. Some at Fox News knew the claims were false but their comments were drowned out, lawyers said. “The buck stops with Fox on this,” attorney Stephen Shackelford said. “Fox chose to put this on all of its many platforms. They rebroadcast, republished it on social media and other places.” The suit was filed in Delaware, where both companies are incorporated, though Fox News is headquartered in New York and Dominion is based in Denver.
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Is Dominion a publicly traded company (stock)? I might want to buy in. :lol:
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I am sure Shammity will be puffing up for months assuring viewers this all part of the continuous ongoing never ending persecution of Conservatives, and a direct attack on their 1A Rights. First Trump, then Fox, and then all Republicans. No one is safe. etc etc blah blah blah
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Here's the Dominion complaint via WaPo (ETA: edited the link, had gone to the original PDF and that link is funny): https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/ ... e_manual_6
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Were Fox personalities still accusing Dominion/Biden/Dems/Soros of stealing the election? If so, I'm curious to find out if it stops today.
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I have to admit the niceties of 1st Amendment defences continue to bewilder me. I understand the right to state one’s opinion(s) is something worth defending but do not agree that stating a lie as a fact is defensible. Obviously people sometimes get things wrong but it is their responsibility to accept this when it is shown they are wrong. To repeat damaging accusations that are based on unverified information after it has been debunked is a dereliction of responsibility for an individual and especially egregious for any “news/media” organisation, and they must expect to suffer the consequences.

(I still have difficulty understanding how Fox News was able to successfully use a “it’s only entertainment” defence and being from the UK am in favour of properly applied anti hate speech laws).
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Being mistaken and deliberately claiming false information as truth are two different things.

If Fox News had always prefaced their statements about Dominion with "President Trump says", they would have a leg to stand on. Then they would be protected for merely restating what a well known public figure had said.
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orlylicious wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:45 am Here's the Dominion complaint via WaPo: https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/ ... e6fdf58d86.
Link didn’t work fo me. Here’s another. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... -complaint

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Thanks.
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neonzx wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:06 am Is Dominion a publicly traded company (stock)? I might want to buy in. :lol:
Dominion Voting Services is a wholly-owned subsidiary of US Dominion, Inc., which is privately-held. A lot of dark insinuations about "secret ownership" were at the heart of claims about Venezuela or whoever wanting to mess with our elections.

Personally, I wish they'd been named something else, because "US Dominion, Inc." does sound vaguely creepy and jingoistic.
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Yeah but, US Chillin Out Voting Systems Inc doesn't have quite the appeal.
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bill_g wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:50 am Yeah but, US Chillin Out Voting Systems Inc doesn't have quite the appeal.
Dammit, now I want to found US Supervillain Volcano Dungeon Doom Fortress Voting Systems, LLC.
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How about Election Stealing Evil One-World Socialist Communist Deep State Voting Systems, Inc.?
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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Foggy wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:20 pm How about Election Stealing Evil One-World Socialist Communist Deep State Voting Systems, Inc.?
A subsidiary of Bill Gates Rothschild New World Order Alien Lizard People Jewish Cabal Services Corporation :lol:
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Gotta work the pizza shop child sex ring in there someplace. And Benghazzi!!!!! And Vince Foster (everybody goes "Who?"), and HILLARYYYYYY!!!!! Gotta have them some Hillary.

But now the company starts becoming really cumbersome. So, I propose it simply be Hillary's Vote Stealing LLC.
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Steal Votes R Us, inc motto. Satisfactory election results or your money back.
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mwahahaha
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Interesting detail here:

Dominion Voting Systems has brought on lawyers from Susman Godfrey for their Fox News case.

Susman Godfrey repped the parents of Seth Rich in their suit against Fox, which ended with a reported 7-figure payment in a settlement from Fox.

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I was reading something this morning where an observer was predicting that Fox News would back up a dump truck worth of money to settle this in order to avoid the embarrassing discovery process, same as in the Seth Rich case. In the case of the Rich family, who were and are still mourning their son, I understood the motivation quietly settle and move on. But Dominion can afford to tell Fox to keep their money and get ready for the litigation holds and deposition schedules. Of course, they probably won't, because Dominion is a business, and it's in their interest to just get paid and move on. But I really would love to see some Fox personalities get deposed.
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How much did you know, and when did ya know it?
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So, if Fox decides to shake loose with $$$$ to settle, and Dominion agrees, can Dominion place some conditions upon the settlement?

Like, perhaps, full disclosure by Hannity and the rest of the talking heads that they knew they promoting baseless accusations and claims?

Like, perhaps, full disclosure by Rupert and Lachlan that they gave carte blanche to their entertainment division (I guess the entire channel is considered entertainment, but I digress) to program what they felt their viewers wanted to see and hear?

Like, perhaps, full disclosure by Suzanne Scott that they were after ratings and accuracy be damned?

Not. But one can hope.
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Of course virtually anything can be put into a settlement agreement. But a onetime disclaimer is not going to undo months of lies.

I saw the Mooch on CNN the other night. He opined that Dominion might win the case (against Lindell) but they would have trouble proving damages. But I saw somewhere that one southern state had already declined to purchase new Dominion voting machines. Dominion has good lawyers. I have no doubt they know how to prove up damages.
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Stark County Ohio (Canton) declined to purchase Dominion machines after their wingnut Board of Elections voted against it. Will find the link.
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SuzieC wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:42 pm Stark County Ohio (Canton) declined to purchase Dominion machines after their wingnut Board of Elections voted against it. Will find the link.
Is that where there is still a "dry county' and I had drive to the edge of the county where there was a mega market drive-through right over the county line? All I wanted was a 6-pack of beer for my hotel room and I had to drive 3 miles to the county line (cause Jesus and they don't want the tax revenue) -- never been back after that contract job. Whatever ....
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