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Flatpoint High wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:04 am

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During enslavement many of us, already expert farmers, were able to grow watermelons for profit. After enslavement, many Black people continued to grow and sell the fruit. Our businesses thrived!

The popular fruit allowed us to purchase land, build wealth, and help create opportunities for each other. Watermelon was a symbol of freedom for Black people.
Interestingly, though, watermelons became a symbol of the Black man's laziness, because watermelons didn't require much care to grow. Watermelons also were considered low class, because they were messy to eat (juice), were eaten out of hand (again, messy), and because they had a lot of seeds, the seeds were spat out--very low class.

The classic cartoon portrayal of Blacks is a Black man, dressed in shabby clothes, sitting on a porch with a big slice of watermelon in his hands, big bulging eyes and enlarged red lips, chomping away with a big grin. Sometimes there's a (stolen) chicken tucked under his arm.

Just review some Disney cartoons for examples.

Also, there is an interesting essay by Cynthia Greenlee in Vox from 2019 about eating watermelon in public. I can't make the link paste on my tablet though.
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Azastan wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:40 am Also, there is an interesting essay by Cynthia Greenlee in Vox from 2019 about eating watermelon in public. I can't make the link paste on my tablet though.
On eating watermelon in front of white people: “I’m not as free as I thought”
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neonzx wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:47 am
Azastan wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:40 am Also, there is an interesting essay by Cynthia Greenlee in Vox from 2019 about eating watermelon in public. I can't make the link paste on my tablet though.
On eating watermelon in front of white people: “I’m not as free as I thought”
Racism has a powerful, sneaky way of inflicting shame.
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This goes way back to my mother, grandmother and great Gramma.

When I was little and feeling awful, my great grandma would toast bread and let it cool. She would butter the toast, sprinkle with cinnamon and sugar, then pour hot milk over it. I made this for my kids and for Mister. It doesn't cure anything. It's just a deep comfort.
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Patagoniagirl wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:47 pm This goes way back to my mother, grandmother and great Gramma.

When I was little and feeling awful, my great grandma would toast bread and let it cool. She would butter the toast, sprinkle with cinnamon and sugar, then pour hot milk over it. I made this for my kids and for Mister. It doesn't cure anything. It's just a deep comfort.
When my mother was pregnant with my youngest sister, and already 3 smalls at home, cinnamon toast, cheese toast and butter and sugar sandwiches were all my dad knew how to make. We alternated them for every meal for 4 days. I still love cinnamon toast but will have to try it with milk. I'll probably miss the crunch of the melted sugar though.
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Pretty cool video, Mr. V!

I think--emphasis on think--that cheese was another one of those accidental discoveries by man. Rennin is an enzyme that is produced in one of the stomachs of ruminants. Ancient civilizations would use these stomachs to transport milk via camel or other animal. The agitation of the milk inside the rennin-coated stomachs during transport would coagulate the milk into a crude form of cheese.

It was only a matter of time before man figured out how to solidify this coagulated precursor into the hundreds of cheese varieties that we consume today.

People had a lot of time on their hands thousands of years ago when they were not fighting off enemies.
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keith wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:11 am
Foggy wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:21 pm There are no recipes for leftover chocolate. :mrgreen:
What the heck is 'leftover chocolate'?
I have the same question. I'm pretty darn sure there is no such thing.
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How the ‘boneless wing’ became a tasty culinary lie

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NEW YORK (AP) — One day in 2020, at the pandemic’s height, an earnest-looking man with long hair the color of Buffalo sauce stepped up to a podium in Lincoln, Nebraska, to address his city council during its public comment period. His unexpected topic, as he framed it: It was time to end the deception.

“I propose that we as a city remove the name `boneless wings’ from our menus and from our hearts,” said Ander Christensen, who managed to be both persuasive and tongue-in-cheek all at once. “We’ve been living a lie for far too long.”

With the Super Bowl at hand, behold the cheerful untruth that has been perpetrated upon (and generally with the blessing of) the chicken-consuming citizens of the United States on menus across the land: a “boneless wing” that isn’t a wing at all.

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Today’s food landscape is brimming with these gentle impostors — things we eat that pass as other things we eat.

Surimi is fish that effectively becomes crab or lobster meat for many of us — and stars in California rolls across the land. Carrots are cut and buffed until their edges are curved and smooth, becoming “ baby carrots ” or, slightly more truthfully, “baby-cut carrots.” Impossible Burgers are plant-based delicacies that carry many of meat’s characteristics without ever having been near an animal. And “Chilean sea bass”? Not a bass at all, but a rebrand of something called a Patagonian toothfish.
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"Boneless Wing", "Air Fryer" -- marketing gimmick terms.

(yeah, you know I was gonna go there) :biggrin:
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Have we talked about Rana products yet?

Rana fresh pasta products in your deli or dairy aisles.

If you want good Italian, and don't have the time, or can't make Italian, Rana fresh pastas are great. Absolutely the best. I have had their lasagna, one of the carbonaras, and a couple of the raviolis. They were all delicious. While it's high end pricing, it's cheaper than a restaurant. And it saves you a ton of time. It's in a refridgerated bag. You don't have to thaw it out. It doesn't take forever to cook. You're ready to eat in well under a half hour. No screwing around. Make a salad, put out the plates and some silver, ring the dinner bell. It's time to eat.
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I think the WaPo just ranked it best in pasta sauces in the last week or two. Pricey, but that's okay. Number 2? Trader Joe's.
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AndyinPA wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:12 pm I think the WaPo just ranked it best in pasta sauces in the last week or two. Pricey, but that's okay. Number 2? Trader Joe's.
I think that might have been Rao's sauce.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:40 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:12 pm I think the WaPo just ranked it best in pasta sauces in the last week or two. Pricey, but that's okay. Number 2? Trader Joe's.
I think that might have been Rao's sauce.
I think you're right.
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Imagine alien species looking down upon earth and what they think of humans.

Now, imagine God.

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I mostly imagine weird space aliens and what they might look like on a bed of roasted potatoes. :? :lol:
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Fun aspect of this China pigsty scheme: the pigs enjoy real ligth thru the windows.
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Foggy wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:48 pm I mostly imagine weird space aliens and what they might look like on a bed of roasted potatoes. :? :lol:
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Coffee. Go juice. Liquid gold. The one with all the psychoactive properties. Once used by Sufi mystics as an aid to concentration during religious rituals, it’s now one of the most ubiquitous drinks on the planet: we get through about 2bn cups a day.

It’s also one of the most valued and pored-over drinks. One particularly sought-after blend, Black Ivory, which is produced by encouraging elephants to digest arabica berries, retails at more than £2,000 a kilogram, while coffee-making championships attract thousands of spectators.

But what does it actually do to you? You might have a vague idea that caffeine wakes you up, wrecks your sleep and can aid sporting performance, but do you know how much you can drink safely? Considering that a typical americano contains more than 100 biologically active ingredients other than caffeine, what do you know about the drug you are glugging two or three times a day? What is happening inside your body when you have a double espresso in the morning?

How quickly does it act?

The effects may start before you even take a sip. Just inhaling the scent of coffee can improve memory and stimulate alertness, according to a 2019 study of 80 18- to 22-year-olds. Another study, from 2018, found that subjects did better in tests of analytical reasoning after a whiff of the good stuff. That said, the researchers in the 2018 study suggested that the effect probably had a placebo element, with the expectation of improved performance proving at least partly responsible.

What about when you actually drink it? “There’s a chance that the use of any supplement will carry a placebo effect,” says Dr Mike T Nelson, a researcher and performance specialist who recently co-wrote the International Society of Sports Nutrition’s position on coffee. “Many researchers use randomised, double-blinded, placebo-controlled trials to try to ferret that out. And if you look at some of the higher-dose caffeine studies and when they have been compared with a placebo, we still see a performance-enhancing effect of caffeine.”

This is why the effects really kick in some time after you start drinking. While a 2008 study found that the effects of a cup of coffee can occur just 10 minutes after ingestion, it said peak caffeine concentration in the blood occurred after 45 minutes.
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Maine lobstermen have slower year amid industry challenges

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Fishers of Maine lobster, one of the most lucrative seafood species in the U.S., had a smaller haul during a year in which the industry battled surging fuel and bait prices, rebukes from key retailers and the looming possibility of new fishing restrictions.

Maine lobster has exploded in value in recent years in part due to growing international demand from countries such as China. The industry brought about 98 million pounds of lobster to the docks worth about $389 million in 2022, Maine regulators said Friday. That was more than 11% less than the previous year, in which they harvested more than 110 million pounds of lobster worth more than $740 million.

The value of lobsters also fell to a little less than $4 per pound at the docks, the lowest since 2017, a year after setting a record of more than $6.70 in 2021.

The industry has experienced growth in recent years, as fishermen have caught more than 96 million pounds of lobster per year for 13 years in a row after never previously reaching that mark. But it is also wrangling with threats such as proposed rules to protect rare North Atlantic right whales, which are vulnerable to entanglement in gear.

Last year was a “real steady season,” for the most part, but the high price of doing business and a diminished price per pound for lobsters were challenges, said John Tripp, a fisherman from St. George.

“It’s getting pretty costly to do what we do,” Tripp said.

The lower price to fishermen last year did not necessarily translate to lower prices for consumers, as lobsters remain a premium seafood product. Fishermen are typically paid $4 to $5 per pound for their catch, while retailers often charge consumers more than twice that.

The potential threats to the industry include the warming of the Gulf of Maine, which is a key fishing area off New England. The gulf experienced its second-warmest year on record last year, scientists have said.

“Maine’s lobstermen were facing tremendous uncertainty about their future last year over pending federal whale regulations, compounded by the high costs for bait and fuel,” said Maine Gov. Janet Mills, a Democrat. “Yet they still brought to shore nearly 100 million pounds of quality Maine lobster, which reflects this industry’s resilience when confronted with a difficult and dynamic economic environment.”

The lobster fishing business has also lost some customers in the wake of sustainability organizations suspending their certifications of the industry over concerns about threats to whales. Retailers including Whole Foods said they would halt sales of Maine lobster after the groups, Maine Stewardship Council and Seafood Watch, pulled the certifications.

Some scientists and conservationists have called on government regulators to treat the threat to whales more urgently. The whales are also vulnerable to collisions with large ships.

“With fewer than 350 individuals remaining, and their numbers in decline, North Atlantic right whales are at risk of extinction,” wrote a group of conservationists including Peter Corkeron, a former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist, in a February issue of the journal Science.
The lobster fisheries south of Maine have all but collapsed due to warming waters. Lobsters need cold water.

The lobsters for sale on Long Island now all come from Canada. Long Island Sound and the Great Peconic Bay are just too warm in the summer. :(

This also affects the whales. Lobster fishing used to occur in shallow near shore waters. As those waters warmed the lobsters moved to ever deeper offshore waters. The fishers followed.
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You could really see this coming.
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And it is not just the lobsters. :(

Also, at least, Peconic Bay Scallops and New England steamer clams.
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Swiss cheese depot fire destroys 12,000 wheels of Gruyere

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Firefighters in the Swiss canton of Freiburg put out the last embers of a warehouse fire Friday but not after it had destroyed the building and the 12,000 wheels of Gruyere cheese inside.

Authorities say the fire broke out in the storage basement of a 5,575 square meter (60,000 square foot) warehouse in Vuisternens-en-Ogoz — roughly 50 kilometers (31 miles) southwest of Bern — Thursday before spreading to engulf the entire facility.

Witnesses claimed hearing explosions as a large cloud of smoke blanketed the area, traffic was rerouted and water service was interrupted into Friday as small fires inaccessible to firemen due to a collapsed roof, continued to burn.

Residents were instructed to keep doors and windows closed as well as conserving water before the all clear was later given late Thursday evening.

Some 150 firefighters, police and medical personnel were at the scene. Twenty-five individuals were evacuated and seven were treated for possible smoke inhalation. The cause of the fire has yet to be determined.

Late Thursday, Freiburg police confirmed the entire building and its contents had been lost and announced an investigation had been launched. Total damages said authorities, could not yet be calculated.

A cheesemaker at the scene told the local La Liberte newspaper, "I guess we lost about 12,000 wheels of Gruyere."
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He found a clam on a Florida beach to make some chowder. Then he counted the rings

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Fri, March 3, 2023 at 9:34 PM GMT+1

A Florida man and his family stumbled across what they thought was a dinner ingredient on the beach of the Gulf of Mexico last month.

According to a recent Facebook post from the Gulf Specimen Marine Lab in Panacea, near Tallahassee, an employee, Blaine Parker, was walking along Alligator Point in the Panhandle on Feb. 18, looking for shellfish to make “chowder.”

During the sandy stroll, the crew came across a giant quahog, aka an edible clam, weighing in at a whopping 2.6 pounds. A few pictures of the monster mollusk on the research lab’s page shows the situation, one with a smiling Parker barely able to hold the entire thing in his palm.

“We were just going to eat it, but we thought about it a while and figured it was probably pretty special,” the seafood lover told the Tallahassee Democrat. “We didn’t want to kill it.”

Parker not only realized this chance meeting was important, he knew enough to count the rings on its shell, similar to a tree’s rings, to determine the clam’s age.

In total, the clam had 214 layers.

Do the math: This mollusk has been in existence a very, very long time.

OK, they did the math for you: It was hatched in 1809.

Parker brought it over to his colleagues at the marine lab, which examined the big guy, officially known as an Ocean Quahog, Arctica islandica.

“Age can be calculated by the number of layers on the shell, with each layer representing a year,” read the post.

Since the discovery was made during Presidents Day weekend, they all decided on the nickname “Aber-clam Lincoln,” the 16th president who was born that year.
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I accidentally came across an article today on the Lenten fish fries that I've talked about here since Lent started. I think it was in the Religious Threadjack thread. I had always assumed that this was more or less national, if not East Coast, or whatever. But the article I came across said that it pretty much is a Southwestern Pennsylvania tradition, although it started originally in cities around the Great Lakes. There was an interactive map, and I was shocked at how many places there are.

That article had a link about another Pittsburgh tradition that I thought would have been Southwestern PA, but it's pretty much just Pittsburgh, and Youngstown, Ohio (about 60-70 miles away).
Ever wondered why there are a dozen cookies per guest at a Pittsburgh wedding?

At a Pittsburgh wedding, the cookie table is as important as the first kiss, but finding the true origin of the tradition is as challenging as making the perfect pizzelle.

Some say it’s a custom brought to Pittsburgh by immigrants (and everybody from Italians to Polish people claim its heritage). Others say it grew out of a Depression-era need to save money on cake. And yet, there’s very little published documentation of cookie tables at weddings until quite recently in the 1990s.

But no matter the roots, this enduring tradition of sharing dozens upon dozens of sweet homemade confections at weddings is baked into Pittsburgh culture — and it continues to perplex newcomers to the city.

So how did it get started?

The answer is “murky,” according to Lauren Uhl, Heinz History Center’s curator of food & fitness. But one thing is clear, she said: With the exception of Youngstown, Ohio, it seems to be a uniquely Pittsburgh tradition.

Dating back into the 1900s, the concept of a cookie table was a fixture at church socials, PTA meetings, and card games but not necessarily at weddings, Uhl said.

The cookie table’s association with weddings didn’t start popping up in publications until the 1990s, she said. But perhaps the concept didn’t show up in newspapers and cookbooks, she added, because everybody was doing it, so it wasn’t seen as newsworthy.
It's been a staple at every wedding I've ever attended here. It was a staple at mine. It's in addition to the cake. When a cousin got engaged, all the aunts started planning and baking. All my aunts and my mother baked for mine. I've baked for others. I didn't know it was such a narrow tradition, but it's a great one.

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The article goes on to say that it's debatable if the cookies are to be served at dessert or as just waiting to eat when you arrive at the reception, but I've never been at a wedding where they weren't available to eat as soon as you arrived. :lovestruck:
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