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Again.
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:41 pm It also keeps Europe's weather more stable and mild. Places in Europe at the same northern latitudes are often warmer than places at the same latitudes in North America.
Ooh, aye. I've heard that without the current, London would have the same climate as Toronto. Yikes.
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Volkonski wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:29 am https:// twitter.com/ABC/status/1424738258207088648
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SPLASHING TIME: Tourists visiting Venice's famous St. Mark's square are left high and (not) dry as rising water levels leave the area submerged and restaurants flooded. https://abcn.ws/2U4Ii4D

4:24 PM · Aug 9, 2021
This is nothing unusual for Venice (the real one in Italy, not California ;) ), has happened for decades, not climate change related. Part is tidal, but mainly a runoff problem for waters flowing from inland during storm rains, also land subsidience. Venice is well prepared and sets up board walks above the highwater mark.
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https://www.fox9.com/news/july-was-eart ... -noaa-says
After a month of dangerous heat waves that impacted the globe, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Friday that July was officially the world’s hottest month ever recorded.

"In this case, first place is the worst place to be," said NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad. "July is typically the world’s warmest month of the year, but July 2021 outdid itself as the hottest July and month ever recorded. This new record adds to the disturbing and disruptive path that climate change has set for the globe."

According to new global data, the combined land and ocean-surface temperature was 1.67 degrees F above the 20th-century average of 60.4 degrees F, making it the hottest July since record keeping began 142 years ago.

Meanwhile, it was 0.02 of a degree F higher than the previous record set in July 2016, which was then tied in 2019 and 2020.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ensus-data
Science has provided America with a decent idea of which areas of our country will be most devastated by climate change, and which areas will be most insulated from the worst effects. Unfortunately, it seems that US population flows are going in the wrong direction – new census data shows a nation moving out of the safer areas and into some of the most dangerous places of all.

To quote Planes, Trains and Automobiles: we’re going the wrong way.

The Census Bureau’s new map of the last decade’s population trends shows big growth in the west and on the coasts – and declines in the inland east coast and Great Lakes region.

Now compare that map to ProPublica maps documenting the areas most at risk of extreme heat, wildfires and flooding, and you see the problem. While there has been some recent anecdotal evidence of pragmatic climate migration, overall the census data shows America’s population growth is shifting out of areas that may be the best refuges from the most extreme effects of climate change, and into many areas that are most at risk.
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roadscholar wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:52 am
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:41 pm It also keeps Europe's weather more stable and mild. Places in Europe at the same northern latitudes are often warmer than places at the same latitudes in North America.
Ooh, aye. I've heard that without the current, London would have the same climate as Toronto. Yikes.
The latitude of St. John's, Newfoundland is 47.5615° N. The latitude of Lizard Point in Cornwall, the most southerly point of the island of Great Britain is 49.9583° N. ALL of the mainland of Great Britain lies north of St. John's. I spent a winter in St. John's. I don't think the UK is ready for it.
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And considering that English heating systems have been rich fodder for comedians for a hundred years… umm, yeah.
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When we join the snappily named Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, the UK will instantly become a tropical paradise. :mrgreen:
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Yeah, but then when the polar caps melt you'll all be swimming in chilly water. :dog:
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And funny thing about a huge amount of the food we love to eat. The plants must flower to bring the goodies into fruition. so to speak. And they tend to flower when it's relatively cool. It's a pickle, but we may not have scads of pickles in the supermarkets.
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Greenland just experienced another massive melt event this year. But this time, something unusual happened. It also rained at the summit of the ice sheet, nearly two miles above sea level.

Around 6 a.m. Saturday, staff at the National Science Foundation’s Summit Station woke up to raindrops and water beads condensed on the station’s windows. Rain occasionally falls on the ice sheet, but no staff member recalls rain — even a light drizzle — ever occurring at the summit before.

“Basically, the entire day of Saturday, it was raining every hour that [staff] was making weather observations,” said Zoe Courville, a research engineer at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory. “And that’s the first time that’s been observed happening at the station.”
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So, someone slept through thermodynamics class. :roll:
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The United States had its hottest summer on record this year, narrowly edging out the previous milestone that was set 85 years ago during the Dust Bowl.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Thursday that the average temperature this summer for the contiguous U.S. was 74 degrees Fahrenheit, or 2.6 degrees warmer than the long-term average. The heat record caps off a season full of extremes, with parts of the country experiencing persistent drought, wildfires, record-breaking heat waves, hurricanes and other extreme weather exacerbated by climate change.

This summer beat the previous record set in 1936 by a hair, coming in at less than 0.01 degrees warmer than during the Dust Bowl year, when huge portions of the West and Great Plains were parched by severe drought.

Though this year's summer was technically hotter than 1936, the very small gap puts the two years "neck and neck," in what NOAA called a "virtual tie."
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Dennis Prager has the solution to climate change, with a main course of misogyny. So miserable.
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Air conditioning? Hmmmmmmmmmmm......

I hear the hummmmm.... of personal generators in everyones backyard :blackeye:
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/clim ... -cost.html
Florida's version of the American dream, which holds that even people of relatively modest means can aspire to live near the water, depends on a few crucial components: sugar white beaches, soft ocean breezes and federal flood insurance that is heavily subsidized.

But starting Oct. 1, communities in Florida and elsewhere around the country will see those subsidies begin to disappear in a nationwide experiment in trying to adapt to climate change: Forcing Americans to pay something closer to the real cost of their flood risk, which is rising as the planet warms. ... While the program also covers homes around the country, the pain will be most acutely felt in coastal communities. For the first time, the new rates will also take into account the size of a home, so that large houses by the ocean could see an especially big jump in rates.

Federal officials say the goal is fairness -- and also getting homeowners to understand the extent of the risk they face, and perhaps move to safer ground, reducing the human and financial toll of disasters. ... "Subsidized insurance has been critical for supporting coastal real estate markets," said Benjamin Keys, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. Removing that subsidy, he said, is likely to affect where Americans build houses and how much people will pay for them. "It's going to require a major rethink about coastal living."

The Biden administration's new approach threatens home values, perhaps nowhere as intensely as Florida, a state particularly exposed to rising seas and worsening hurricanes. In some parts of the state, the cost of flood insurance will eventually increase tenfold, according to data obtained by The New York Times. ... For example, Jennifer Zales, a real estate agent who lives in Tampa, pays $480 a year for flood insurance. Under the new system, her rates will eventually reach $7,147, according to Jake Holehouse, her insurance agent.

And that is prompting lawmakers from both parties to line up to block the new rates, which will be phased in over several years.
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Why should I subsidize them? Many of these are second/beach homes, not even primary residences. I would be OK with providing subsidized insurance for a primary residence for the FIRST occurrence, after which they can either take their insurance money and move, or rebuild with it and begin assuming their own risk.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:40 pm Why should I subsidize them? Many of these are second/beach homes, not even primary residences. I would be OK with providing subsidized insurance for a primary residence for the FIRST occurrence, after which they can either take their insurance money and move, or rebuild with it and begin assuming their own risk.
Even when the "first" occurrence is for major structural damage to a $10 million home?

These people have been living off the rest of us for forever. The article also says the FEMA rate hikes are being opposed by folks like Chuck Schumer. So much of the rhetoric we hear from many Democrats about climate change is a bunch of bullshit when it threatens their jobs too.
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I'm with Filly. If people want to live next to a river or ocean, the home is at risk. They can pay to insure it if they want to live there.
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Just read the post about the Redding fire. So now I'm wondering about fire insurance and living in a forest, especially in dry areas.
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Lani wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:06 am Just read the post about the Redding fire. So now I'm wondering about fire insurance and living in a forest, especially in dry areas.
Fire insurance is handled by commercial insurance companies, and should be actuarially sound. (I would assume that the wildfires in the West over the last decade had a significant impact on rates.) Because the government plays the leading role in flood insurance, there was political pressure to keep rates artificially low. This led to a product that was priced far lower than it should have been relative to the amount of risk involved. Essentially, insurance for those living in flood prone areas was subsidized by the rest of the population.
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https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... etes-river
In the shadow of towering grain silos that line the bank of the River Paraná, South America’s second-longest waterway, Lucas Krivenchuk stands watching workers rush to load a barge with soybeans.

“Twelve barges had to leave today, but only six will make it out: there’s no time, the water’s dropping too fast,” said Krivenchuk, general manager of the Trociuk private port in southern Paraguay. “It’s the first time that any have left in two months.”

The Paraná River, which winds through Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina, has dropped to its lowest levels in 77 years as a severe drought that began in late 2019 continues to punish the region. Experts say the climate crisis and deforestation may be intensifying the phenomenon.
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Bad Apple

Apple does not want the public to think of the company only as a profit-obsessed manufacturer of iPhones, AirPods, and MacBooks. Rather, Apple would like to be viewed as a responsible corporate citizen that understands the urgency of action on climate change. In 2013, Apple hired former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson to head up its "environmental responsibility efforts."

Jackson, now Apple's VP for Environment, Policy, and Social Initiatives, released a statement asserting that "the urgent threat of climate change is a key priority" for the company. Jackson called on Congress and the Biden administration to take "urgent action" to pass "climate policies that quickly decarbonize our electric grid." Specifically, Jackson said Apple supports "the enactment of a Clean Energy Standard (CES) that would decarbonize the power sector by 2035."

Given this stance, you might be surprised that Apple is part of a "massive lobbying blitz" to kill the reconciliation package and its Clean Energy Standard.

Apple CEO Tim Cook sits on the board of the Business Roundtable, a group comprised of influential CEOs. Jessica Boulanger, a spokesperson for the group, told the Washington Post that the Business Roundtable was involved in "a significant, multifaceted campaign" to defeat the reconciliation package and will "continue to ramp up our efforts in the coming weeks."

Last week, the Business Roundtable began running paid ads on Facebook opposing the reconciliation package. One ad called the legislation, which contains the Clean Energy Standard, "bad for Montana workers and the economy."
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