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Put your kids thru school? Please tell me, what public schools do they visit, please? :sarcasm:
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Why don’t you support the people who believe the stuff that you believe in? That share your values steal your money. Help put their kids through school another yacht in the harbor.
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Lara Trump: We all knew how long until they can draw some direct line to anything to do with Republican's, conservatives, right wing, anything and they didn't skip a beat, they went right there.
Taking the Dems to task for jumping to conclusions before we have all the info :fingerwag:
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Keeping it classy.
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There's a lot of things that need to change. One specifically? Police brutality.
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Junior’s rant tonight is that Biden is using Gestopoesque Mussolini fascist tactics to divide people so Democrats win the midterms.

Junior was ranting last night about concern of trans voters that in states with strict new laws they might not be able to vote if gender on their ID doesn’t match current one: “If they identify as a million different people do they get a million different votes!”
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At the QAnon conference today, Eric Trump says Democrats “want to destroy christianity, destroy our families, our children, our history. Guys, this is a cognizant (?) war in this country. I don’t say that lightly. I’m not the tinfoil hat-wearing guy.”

At the QAnon traveling grift-a-Rama today, headliner Eric Trump tells them he almost called Georgetown to give them his college degree back after he heard that one of the professors said all white males should be castrated.
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Eric is looking terrible. He seems to have lost a lot of weight and he is not looking happy.
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Kendra wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:10 pm
At the QAnon conference today, Eric Trump says Democrats “want to destroy christianity, destroy our families, our children, our history. Guys, this is a cognizant (?) war in this country. I don’t say that lightly. I’m not the tinfoil hat-wearing guy.”
I mean, in fairness, one wears a tinfoil hat to protect a brain, and that ship done sailed.
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Suranis wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:52 pm Eric is looking terrible. He seems to have lost a lot of weight and he is not looking happy.
Oh, he knows that he is the first one Daddy is going to throw under a bus when the time comes. He is the first Trump going to prison and he is only too aware of that.
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Gregg wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:30 pm
Suranis wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:52 pm Eric is looking terrible. He seems to have lost a lot of weight and he is not looking happy.
Oh, he knows that he is the first one Daddy is going to throw under a bus when the time comes. He is the first Trump going to prison and he is only too aware of that.
Ya'll really buying tfg is his daddy?
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neonzx wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:42 pm
Gregg wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:30 pm
Suranis wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:52 pm Eric is looking terrible. He seems to have lost a lot of weight and he is not looking happy.
Oh, he knows that he is the first one Daddy is going to throw under a bus when the time comes. He is the first Trump going to prison and he is only too aware of that.
Ya'll really buying tfg is his daddy?

I have noticed that he is about a foot taller than the rest of the family and seems to know how to stand up. He does kind of look like TFG though, maybe his uncle ain't an uncle?

I don't know, I'm just asking questions here. :smoking:

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Don Jr. Testified He Has No Idea How Business Accounting Works
The sworn statements from Donald Trump's oldest son helped a judge decide to put the family company under supervision.

Don Jr. may have been put in charge of running his dad’s family business after former President Donald Trump entered the White House.

But don’t ask him how business accounting works. He swears, under oath, that he has basically no idea, aside from what he learned in “Accounting 101 at Wharton,” according to a judicial ruling released on Thursday.

Trump’s eldest son said in a sworn deposition that he has next to no understanding of the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP, the accounting standard adopted by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, according to the document.
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Don Jr. stated that he “had no knowledge as [GAAP] relates to what it was for, for the Statement of Financial Condition or not,” according to an excerpt included in Engoron’s order.

Engoron said this lack of understanding meant Don Jr. may not have understood what he was signing when he penned his name to documents prepared by Trump’s accounting company, Mazars.

“At a minimum, Donald Trump Jr. signed off on representations to Mazars without performing the due diligence necessary to ensure their accuracy or compliance with GAAP, raising serious doubt as to the reliability of future [statements of financial condition] for which Donald Trump Jr. may be responsible,” Engoron wrote.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax5pm/ ... ting-works
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Sounds like a useful idiot.
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So of course it can’t possibly be his fault that the company misrepresented anything. :roll:
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raison de arizona wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:46 pm
Don Jr. Testified He Has No Idea How Business Accounting Works
The sworn statements from Donald Trump's oldest son helped a judge decide to put the family company under supervision.

Don Jr. may have been put in charge of running his dad’s family business after former President Donald Trump entered the White House.

:snippity:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax5pm/ ... ting-works
I believe in my corner of the world such a testimony would be cause to hold the former owner / manager liable, cause of giving a leading position to an unqualified person. Especially as iirc the owner reserved the right to take back control at any time.
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Does anyone here think that Donald Trump - Jr's dad - has any better understanding of accounting principles?
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raison de arizona wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:46 pm
Don Jr. Testified He Has No Idea How Business Accounting Works
The sworn statements from Donald Trump's oldest son helped a judge decide to put the family company under supervision.

Don Jr. may have been put in charge of running his dad’s family business after former President Donald Trump entered the White House.

But don’t ask him how business accounting works. He swears, under oath, that he has basically no idea, aside from what he learned in “Accounting 101 at Wharton,” according to a judicial ruling released on Thursday.

Trump’s eldest son said in a sworn deposition that he has next to no understanding of the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP, the accounting standard adopted by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, according to the document.
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Don Jr. stated that he “had no knowledge as [GAAP] relates to what it was for, for the Statement of Financial Condition or not,” according to an excerpt included in Engoron’s order.

Engoron said this lack of understanding meant Don Jr. may not have understood what he was signing when he penned his name to documents prepared by Trump’s accounting company, Mazars.

“At a minimum, Donald Trump Jr. signed off on representations to Mazars without performing the due diligence necessary to ensure their accuracy or compliance with GAAP, raising serious doubt as to the reliability of future [statements of financial condition] for which Donald Trump Jr. may be responsible,” Engoron wrote.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax5pm/ ... ting-works
Wasn't it the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, passed in the wake of the Enron fiasco, that says that executive MUST understand the basis of the financial statements that they sign off on? Does the act apply to closely held companies, like The Trump Org., or just to publicly traded companies? It is my understanding that this was passed because some of the Enron execs claimed that they didn't know what their subordinates were doing.

So, by signing those statements, that he now says he didn't understand, he was violating the law, even if the statements had been true.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:39 pm Does anyone here think that Donald Trump - Jr's dad - has any better understanding of accounting principles?
He knows that his dealer only accepts cash and that is all he needs to know.
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noblepa wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:19 pm Wasn't it the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, passed in the wake of the Enron fiasco, that says that executive MUST understand the basis of the financial statements that they sign off on? Does the act apply to closely held companies, like The Trump Org., or just to publicly traded companies?
Sarbanes-Oxley applies only to publicly traded companies. And, yes, it was designed to strip away the "ignorance" defense for criminal charges of fraud for upper management. The organization has to demonstrate "effective controls" over financial statement preparation so that they can be relied on by investors. If the auditors find any lapses in internal controls, it has to be disclosed. That's bad for the stock price. And given that we've had 20 years to incorporate the higher standards into accounting software, it's pretty hard to have ineffective controls these days.
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It's the Jeff Skilling Law.

For years up until 2001 Jeff Skilling "I am the smartest guy on Earth, even trying to think down enough to explain how smart I am to you hurts. That's how smart I am">

Jeff Skilling when it all fell apart, "I am not an accountant, I don't know anything about that..."
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Gregg wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:22 pm It's the Jeff Skilling Law.

For years up until 2001 Jeff Skilling "I am the smartest guy on Earth, even trying to think down enough to explain how smart I am to you hurts. That's how smart I am">

Jeff Skilling when it all fell apart, "I am not an accountant, I don't know anything about that..."
I believe fans of Batman call this "The Skilling Joke."
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That is Olympic Level disconnect right there.
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Saw someone say on Facebook that Tiffany (inferior non Ivanka daughter) is getting married this weekend. Dunno if its true, cant be assed to check.
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