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Yes, please send your gibberish to The Heritage Foundation and SCOTUS.

I'm sure it will be given the attention it so rightly deserves.

SCOTUS will completely ignore it. THF might write them a letter saying you are wrong, but that would just be ignored as they somehow have become "woke." :lol:
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phrowt wrote:How can a citizen bring this to them (like the Brunsons did) based on our confusion as to who to vote for that is eligible under Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution?
The Brunson Grifters actually copied from the birthers: (1) Throw paper at a court; (2) get the papers dismissed for lack of jurisdiction; (3) have the appellate court affirm the dismissal; and (4) then SCOTUS will silently deny cert.

Easy peasy! :towel:

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P&E comment:
'DeMaio' wrote:The commenter focuses all of his remarks on your humble servant’s treatment of Charles Gordon’s law review article. This suggests, parenthetically, that all of the other matters addressed in the post are accepted as accurate.
SILENCE CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE.

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bob, if you can possibly sneak a comment into the P&E, I would like someone to ask them,

"Has anyone, at any time, claimed that Obama's father was a US citizen at any time in his life? Isn't it a universally accepted fact, that his father was never a US citizen?"

... and in that case, if that rendered Obama ineligible, you might suppose Alberto Gonzalez, the Attorney General of the United States during the 2008 election, might have done something to stop the ineligible dude from being elected. :think:
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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I'm still baned at the P&E. :crying:

And Rondeau's content has been so boring lately.

It needs yet another 5000 word essay from "DeMaio" about only he is correct. :towel:
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Chuckles has BREAKING FRESH NEWS and this could be it. For real this time? Chuckles upchucks all his info, including lots from #DeadBirthers (Mario Apuzzo is still right).

Realist, I'm already really nervous and upset about the Brunson soon-to-happen-victory. This could put me over the edge. How panicked should we be about this????

Who Was The Original “Birther”? It Was Barack Hussein Obama II Himself!

The biography in the 1991 pamphlet published by the Acton and Dystel literary agency promoting Obama’s 1991 book “Journeys in Black and White” stated Barack Obama “was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii”. Said early life details are always provided by the author to his agent. The Obama biography in subsequent editions of the pamphlets (with various life accomplishment updates) continued to say he was “born in Kenya” for 17 years until Obama entered the race for President and his backers and enabling media started the “clean up ” and online purge of his previous self-promoting early life-narrative statements. Then it was changed to remove the born in Kenya statement. So Obama was the first “Birther”!

See this news story for more on this pamphlet:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012 ... ia-Hawaii/

Download a copy of this advertorial published 18 April 2011 in The Washington Times National Weekly Edition at this link:

And then when Hillary Clinton’s campaign operatives saw Obama getting traction in the polls, they started, seeded, fertilized, and gave deep roots to what became the “Birther Movement” during late 2007 & early 2008 by surreptitiously spreading information that Obama was foreign born, i.e., that Obama was “born in Indonesia” in some forums or “born in Kenya” in others and also mentioning his Muslim education and roots and allegations Obama’s secret second middle name was Mohammad. They were scattering political seeds to the political winds to see what took root and flourished at that time to stop Obama’s rising in the polls.
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Sharon Rondeau breathlessly reprints the beginning of it at https://www.thepostemail.com/2023/05/25 ... -himself//
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Who Was The Original “Birther”? It Was Barack Hussein Obama II Himself!
14 hours ago by CDR Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (Ret), blogging at CDRKerchner,

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Kerchner wrote: The biography in the 1991 pamphlet published by the Acton and Dystel literary agency promoting Obama’s 1991 book “Journeys in Black and White” stated Barack Obama “was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii”.
Just to prove me wrong, Rondeau recycles a decade-old story about a three-decades-old pamphlet. :towel:
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over a decade ago already corrected by the writer of the promotion brochure
'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991
ByDylan Stableford
May 17, 2012, 11:57 PM

A possible source of the so-called "birther" issue--or at least a potential cause of the rumors that have dogged President Barack Obama--has been identified.

Obama's former literary agency misidentified his birthplace as Kenya while trying to promote the then-Harvard Law grad as an author in 1991.

According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/bo ... d=16372566
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:09 am over a decade ago already corrected by the writer of the promotion brochure
:fingerwag: : P&E comments:
Kerchner wrote:[Saying] who physically “wrote it” is very misleading. Breitbart could not say and did not say the information did not come from Obama. Obama sycophants, disinformation specialists, and cover-up agents protecting Obama said that, enabled by an enabling mainstream media who also played the word-smith disinformation game to protect their “anointed one”.

And that “who wrote it” is a word-smith, gas-lighting, cop-out to say Obama did not “write it”. The literary agent of course was the one who literally “wrote it”. But Obama certainly provided the detailed information to the literary agent for them to “write it”. That is standard operating procedure for new authors.

That type of statement about who “wrote it” is sort of like Clintonize saying it all depends what the meaning of the word “is” is.

So that is a very vacuous statement for Obama and his operatives to make after it ran starting in 1991 for 17 consecutive years saying he was “born in Kenya”. And it is a vacuous statement for you to make here.

Obama made regular updates in the information provided to his literary agent over those years as he progressed up his ladder of life accomplishments, including promoting his 1995 Dreams book. And then all of a sudden he changed it in late 2007 or early in 2008 when he decided to run for President.

So again, saying he did not “write it” is one of Obama’s and his disinformation agents many vacuous statements at various time in his life to cover up his ever changing early life narrative story that he needed to make at that particular time to suit his personal agenda and needs at that particular time.

If you or anyone else believes that Obama did not provide his literary agent the detailed information therein when he first retained that literary agency and the updates over a period of 17 years, then there are people that would gladly sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

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Rondeau wrote:[Acton's] full statement reads, “He indicated that while “almost nobody” wrote his or her own biography, the non-athletes in the booklet, whom “the agents deal[t] with on a daily basis,” were “probably” approached to approve the text as presented.”
Some jerk* suspects there has been a re-re-re-baning. :crying:

Bonus:
Roger Ogden wrote:I had forgotten about that episode. Being “born” in a foreign land must have improved his credentials as an internationalist progressive. He also referred to himself as a proud “citizen of the world” in what amounted to a campaign speech in Berlin in the summer of 2008.
Laity wrote:Do you remember when he was running for the Senate, I believe? He was told he wasn’t eligible. His response was “I am not running for President”.
Recycling the same false memories.
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P&E: Twitter User Asks Why Presidential Eligibility Requirements “Ignored”:
A Twitter user brings attention to the U.S. Constitution’s “eligibility requirements” for the president and vice president by describing them as “ignored.”

“Patriotess” features the hashtag “naturalborncitizen” in her account header and asks, “WHY is Constitution Eligibility Requirements for POTUS/VP IGNORED?”
BREAKING NEWS: Rando Twitter birther wants to be taken seriously! :rotflmao:
As Republican presidential primary candidate Vivek Ramaswamy was speaking at a “Twitter Space” event Thursday night, Patriotess featured a meme in which Ramaswamy says, “I am not a natural born citizen” and “I am Constitutionally ineligible to be President. Yes that’s according to the Supreme Court” [sic].

Those statements are portrayed as having responded to Patriotess’s question, “What’s ur citizenship status?”



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In response to a commenter claiming of Patriotess, “you do not know what you are talking about,” she wrote, “Others before us to include you DID #FoundingFathers #naturalborncitizen http://usnaturalborncitizen.com/ramsey.html



The link leads to an essay at the website, “usnaturalborncitizen.com” titled, “A DISSERTATION on the MANNER OF ACQUIRING The Character & Privileges of a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES:” which is an unattributed reproduction of the late Mario Apuzzo’s April 2, 2010 article, “Founder and Historian David Ramsay Defines a Natural Born Citizen in 1789.”

The same day, The Post & Email reproduced the article with Apuzzo’s permission.

After more than a decade of advocating for the “Vattel” interpretation of “natural born Citizen,” including challenging Obama’s eligibility to the Supreme Court, Apuzzo, who did not personally meet that definition, died in October 2021 at the age of 65.

Among her featured graphics is one taken from a 2019 [Post & Email] article written by DeMaio questioning former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s presidential eligibility in light of her birth in American Samoa, an unincorporated territory of the United States.

Just after this article went to press, The Post & Email noticed a tweet from Patriotess asking us, “WHY aren’t you aggressively supporting #birthers #naturalborncitizen” [sic], to which we responded with a link to the story.

Another satisfied P&E customer. :towel:
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P&E: Twitter User Asks Why Presidential Eligibility Requirements “Ignored”:
A Twitter user brings attention to the U.S. Constitution’s “eligibility requirements” for the president and vice president by describing them as “ignored.”

“Patriotess” features the hashtag “naturalborncitizen” in her account header and asks, “WHY is Constitution Eligibility Requirements for POTUS/VP IGNORED?”
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Patriotess wrote:I’ve been reading your publications since we all were trying to expose fraud traitor obuma. Appreciate and respect your dedication to our country and honoring our Constitution. This Vivek guy is obuma in a Republican suit and his supporters worse than cruzbots. Constitution ignorance is rampant. Most folks just don’t care anymore about patriotism and country loyalty. Thank you. Sincerely, Lorie Herberg
Kerchner wrote:I have contacted Vivek’s campaign several times using the contact method in his website asking him the direct question that needs to be openly addressed by him and answered and the need for him to be more transparent about this issue. I asked him — are your parents naturalized U.S. Citizens? And if so, were both of his parents naturalized Citizens of the United States when he was born? And if not by the time he was born, when did they naturalize? And if they never naturalized, what is the immigratioin status of his parent now? But I received no answers.

Based on that “no response” evasion tactic for that same kind of question posed to others in the past like Nikki Haley and Kamala Harris, I assume his parents were not naturalized citizens when Vivek was born.

I wrote [some my usual nonsense] and sent it to about two dozen key Reps and Senators in both political parties suggestion that all presidential candidates should be required and fill out this form and file it for public viewing with the FEC along with the financial disclosure form they are now required to file with the FEC . . . .
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P&E: Conway Leaves Out “Natural Born”:
On Fox News’s Friday edition of “The Five,” speaking to the 2024 presidential election, guest co-host and former Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway cited the constitutional requirements for the nation’s chief executive to be “35 years old” and a “U.S. citizen.”

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Since 2007, a number of close observers have noted the conflation of the terms “U.S. citizen” or “citizen” and “natural born Citizen” by the media, political commentators, respected legal scholars, politicians and their aides, and consequently uninformed members of the public.

* * *

The media’s lack of distinction in terms, along with the political class and an education system increasingly devoid of the teaching of civics, the Constitution, Bill of Rights and founding documents, has contributed to most Americans believing that a “U.S. citizen” or “born in the U.S.” is equivalent to “natural born Citizen.”

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Whether or not Conway realized her misstatement of the presidential eligibility term was not apparent in the remainder of the broadcast.
CONWAY IS AN OBOT! :smoking:
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Kerchner wrote:Disinformation is Circulating About Ron DeSantis’ Mother’s Birth Location – She Was Born In/Near Poland Ohio not the Country of Poland in Europe[.]
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bob wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm
Kerchner wrote:Disinformation is Circulating About Ron DeSantis’ Mother’s Birth Location – She Was Born In/Near Poland Ohio not the Country of Poland in Europe[.]
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But...but... but where's the BC or the Certificate of Live Birth, where's the DNA tests, who were their parents?

C'mon, Chuck, be consistent, at least. :roll:
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P&E comments:
Kari Johnston wrote:Don’t call The “not so” Great One and Constitutional “expert” Mark Levin for clarification. He was a never Trumper and fought hard for the Cubanadian to be the GOP nominee…even married TC’s campaign manager I understand…
Kerchner wrote:I and another patriot friend approached and met Levin briefly at a large conservative group conference held in Washington DC about 13 years ago. We handed him a packet of material we had accumulated to present to various attendees at this conference back then about the “natural born Citizen” term in the presidential eligibility clause and in particular the Minor vs Happersett (1875) SCOTUS decision was pointed out to him and what that decision stated as clearly and without any doubt. He pleaded his being in a hurry to us at that time and that he was not familiar with that SCOTUS case and that he would read it and study it and the other information we gave him and get back to us. We never heard from him. And of course Levin was famous for shouting down anyone who called into his radio show to discuss/debate the nbC term with him over the many years since then.

Mark Levin was obviously in on the fix to get the true original intent, meaning, understanding, and purpose of the “natural born Citizen” national security term in the presidential eligibility clause pushed out of the way by the Republican Party so they could run a large stable of “politically attractive” candidates who were not a “natural born Citizen” of the United States and who were born with dual or triple citizenship and innate foreign influence and allegiances at and by birth.

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I’ll do some more hard data research in the next 6 months to get the needed hard evidence due to their evasive tactics in not answering direct questions and probably have to update that list over the next 6 months in prep for the 2024 election cycle, as more and more surface who had either no U.S. Citizen parents when they were born in the USA, or only one … and depending on which ones get enough traction to be qualified to be considered for the debates.
Gary M Wilmott wrote:Don’t forget I had repeated conversations with Levin’s radio producers on behalf of Mario Apuzzo and myself to debate the issue. Crickets from Mark even though he publicly stated that he would entertain reasonable arguments on air. He never did of course. Levin and his buddy Cruz fancy themselves as constitutional experts but twist and contort the eligibility clause when it suits their needs.
:lol:

And:
Kari Johnston wrote:I have hard evidence in the form of screenshots from the Department of Homeland Security website where they changed the definition of POTUS eligibility right before my eyes. I took before and after copies and hid them with my confidential papers. I am ready to share them publicly now if anyone is interested.
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Bonus:
Laity wrote:Want to hear something bizarre?

Obama is being suggested to replace Kamala Harris as Biden’s running mate in 2024.

This really got my dander up. I’m already having discussions on twitter about why THAT suggestion is wholly unconstitutional on its face. Not to mention that Obama never was eligible to BE President, never was the bona-fide President and never can be.
Laity is referring to this op-ed by Philip Lacovara. Now Lacovara is no slouch (and he's certainly no birther), but in addition to being just wishful thinking, Lacovara handwaves over the 12th Amendment's "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
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realist wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:41 pm But...but... but where's the BC or the Certificate of Live Birth, where's the DNA tests, who were their parents?

C'mon, Chuck, be consistent, at least. :roll:
If it were Obama or other similar ones, he would be yelling that the census forms are not accurate (and, actually, they are not entirely accurate as what is entered is what a survey taker took down from what they heard the person interviewed say).
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This Kari seems to be posting a lot. Is it now four remaining birthers? I'm alarmed if there's been a 25% increase.

That damn liberal, Mark Levin.

Victory? "Trump won’t have to ride the brakes on the Obama BC issue." ????
Kari Johnston says:
Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:42 AM

I’m immensely encouraged by Trump declaring to end birthright citizenship in the US when he is back in office.

Of course he is right to do so and will set the course for widespread awareness (pray!) Additionally, in his final term, Trump won’t have to ride the brakes on the Obama BC issue.

That alone is worth the price of admission.

I had tagged Levin in Facebook posts and emails. His response to me was to tell his fans to “ignore the idiot birthers” and block me from posting information on his page. I was also targeted by his loyal fans for verbal abuse for my posts. Some fun.

I go in his chat room now to stir the pot. You should be there too. You too Gary.
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Time to remind everyone that Sarah Palin went to university in Moscow?
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orlylicious wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:39 am This Kari seems to be posting a lot. Is it now four remaining birthers? I'm alarmed if there's been a 25% increase.

That damn liberal, Mark Levin.

Victory? "Trump won’t have to ride the brakes on the Obama BC issue." ????
Kari Johnston says:
Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:42 AM

I’m immensely encouraged by Trump declaring to end birthright citizenship in the US when he is back in office.

Of course he is right to do so and will set the course for widespread awareness (pray!) Additionally, in his final term, Trump won’t have to ride the brakes on the Obama BC issue.

That alone is worth the price of admission.

I had tagged Levin in Facebook posts and emails. His response to me was to tell his fans to “ignore the idiot birthers” and block me from posting information on his page. I was also targeted by his loyal fans for verbal abuse for my posts. Some fun.

I go in his chat room now to stir the pot. You should be there too. You too Gary.
So these "patriotic, constitution-loving folks are fine with the fact that Trump intends to end birthright citizenship by executive order. Which of course he can't legally do, but he doesn't care and apparently neither do they.
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P&E: “Blast from the Past” — CDR Kerchner (Ret) Speaks on “natural born Citizen” with Radio Host Jim Richards:
"THE FOUNDERS AND FRAMERS WANTED SOLE ALLEGIANCE AT BIRTH"

The evening of the day the White House [in 2011] published an image purported to represent the “long-form” birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama II, CDR Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (Ret) joined Canadian podcast host Jim Richards to make his case for why he believed Obama was ineligible to the presidency as a “natural born Citizen.”
Kerchner's ancient whinings are (still) newsworthy! :towel:

And Rondeau put this article in her "world" section. IT IS THAT IMPORTANT!
Recalling Saturday how he came to be Richards’s guest, Kerchner told The Post & Email, “His show producer contacted me and asked if I’d come on the air and discuss it. I don’t know how the show host and/or producer got my name.”

Kerchner was the sole guest in the segment, appearing without his attorney at the time, the late Mario Apuzzo of Jamesburg, NJ.

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Apuzzo passed away in October that year after suffering an illness requiring hospitalization.
AKA COVID.
Kerchner’s interview began with Richards announcing the White House’s release that morning of the “long-form” image. At the same time, Richards opined that despite that move, “it wouldn’t be good enough” for those who doubted the authenticity of the “shorter form” birth certificate first published at The Daily KOS on June 12, 2008.

Richards was aware that Kerchner had been the lead plaintiff in the 2009 case Kerchner, et al v. Obama, et al challenging Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president and Congress’s dereliction in failing to vet him. After Richards inquired of its status, Kerchner responded that while the case reached the U.S. Supreme Court, “they refused to hear it.”

Richards then asked Kerchner why he did not believe the “short-form” birth certificate to be “accurate.” Kerchner responded on the question of the definition of “natural born Citizen,” one of two he said were raised in his lawsuit. Obama was ineligible, Kerchner maintained, because his father “was a foreign national, a British subject, not even an immigrant to the USA, so he can’t be a natural born Citizen because to be natural born, you have to be born of two U.S. citizens in the USA; that’s the Framers’ and Founders’ intent, and that was a legal issue in my question, and I wanted that to get clarified — all the Supreme Court cases up to that point had attested to what I just said, but it was never tested against the presidency…”

“As far as the original Certification of Live Birth online,” Kerchner continued, “Obama has produced or released a birth certificate to no one. All we see is digital images. We need to see documents in the hands of controlling legal authorities to be vetted by forensic analysis, not just internet images and statements that it’s true and correct and nobody can see a piece of paper. He has submitted no piece of paper to any secretary of state; no controlling legal authority has seen any of his vital records…”

Although Richards’s show introduction statement implied the date of the broadcast was the day after the long-form birth certificate release, Kerchner located emails memorializing that it took place the afternoon of April 27, the same day the PDF document was released by Obama.

“…by the time I was on that show, I was already aware of signs of forgery in the online PDF document image put out by the White House, i.e., the unusual layers that were seen immediately by graphics experts when they looked at the PDF document file online and they then had contacted me about that issue in the early afternoon of the 27th of April, 2011,” Kerchner wrote in a description beneath the video on his YouTube channel. “And thus at one point in the show you hear me bringing up that point, likely being one of the first to do so on a radio show. Of course the more people who subsequently looked at that PDF document the more signs of forgery were found in it.”

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Kerchner pointed out to Richards that the number appearing on the long-form was higher than those of the Nordyke twins, whose births were recorded as August 5, 1961, the day after Obama’s, August 4, 1961, at the same hospital, the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, thereby casting further doubt on the image’s authenticity. Thus, Obama’s number should have been lower, not higher.

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Misunderstanding Kerchner’s explanation of the constitutional requirement, Richards posed the question, “If it’s a hard-and-fast applied law that you have to have two natural-born Americans to be your parents, why wouldn’t that have been the stickling point and not about his birth certificate and not about where he was born?”

Kerchner has never argued that a presidential candidate’s parents also must have been born in the United States with automatic U.S. citizenship, but rather, that naturalized parents, provided the naturalization occurred prior to the child’s birth, would qualify their child as a “natural born Citizen” if he or she were born in the U.S.

Toward the end of the segment, which had become slightly more contentious, Kerchner posed to Richards, “This birth certificate, have you done layers-analysis of it yet?”

“No, I haven’t,” Richards responded.

“I suggest you have your digital experts take that image and look at the layers,” Kerchner replied. “It was made up of layers; it was not even a scanned-in original image.”

“Well, I will get my digital experts right on that,” Richards responded, perhaps sarcastically.

Switching his focus, Kerchner told Richards the Constitution “holds us together” and that “without that Constitution, the United States does not exist, will fall apart, will collapse like the Soviet Union.”

“Obama was born to a foreign national,” he continued. “You’ve got to be a legal natural born Citizen…The Founders and Framers wanted sole allegiance at birth in that office because he’s the commander of our vast military power…”
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P&E: Just Who Has Promoted “False Narratives?”:
In a tweet Friday, Mary Fanning* of The American Report tweeted a response to a conversation between Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (Ret) and film producer and writer Mike Cernovich regarding the timing of the Justice Department’s announcement of an indictment of 45th President Donald J. Trump by a federal grand jury into his alleged mishandling of “classified” documents after leaving the White House.

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Not originally part of the conversation and changing the subject, Fanning tweeted to Flynn, “#Narrative_Assassination Just like Yaacov Apelbaum running a dirty operation against me — hiring a PI to take pictures through our windows and then push the false narratives. Fortunately the PI, Yaakov Apelbaum hired, who had been military Intel, gave sworn affidavits to the courts with copies of the bills to Yaacov Apelbaum and his company XRVISION. @GenFlynn“
Regular readers know what's coming! :towel:
“Yaacov Apelbaum” refers to a plaintiff in the case TGP Communications, et al v. Brannon Howse, et al filed early last year. Apelbaum, founder of intelligence company XRVision, claims defamation against Fanning and her co-writer, Alan Jones.

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The trial has been repeatedly postponed since October and at present is scheduled to begin on July 10.

The latest activity as of this writing shows two counts in Apelbaum’s First Amended Petition in an ancillary matter dismissed. As per Missouri’s policy, individual case documents are not available to the public.

Since March 2017, Fanning and Jones have heavily promoted former government subcontractor Dennis L. Montgomery as a “whistleblower. ” . . . .

In August 2022, Lindell petitioned a Nevada federal court to release Montgomery from a government protective order which both Lindell and Montgomery claim prevents the full disclosure of the evidence Montgomery claims to possess regarding the 2020 election.

The latest docket entry in the case is June 6, 2023 wherein the government was granted a one-week extension of time to respond to an “Objection to Report and Recommendation” filed by Montgomery.

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As we reported, page 10 of the Fanning/Jones book, which we have read, quotes Wiebe describing [Mike] Zullo, without evidence, as a “’self-declared police detective’ and ‘a messenger sent by the Deep State to deceive us.’”

While Wiebe has not responded to Zullo’s and this writer’s requests for comment on that issue, Binney, who did not sign the report, has communicated with Zullo about it to Zullo’s satisfaction.

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Contacting Zullo for comment, he told us:
The private investigator did a phenomenal job; Mary Fanning has been completely elusive in background and appearance, and in order to serve her, she was going to have to be located. This isn’t anything deceitful; this is standard operating procedure with someone who is trying to dodge service. That’s her face; she’s now owned up to it; she’s been sued, and I believe rightfully so. I have been a victim of her poison pen.

I believe this to be a complete operation. If you go back in time and reconstruct the chain of events forensically, you’re going to find out that Mary Fanning is responsible for the introduction of Dennis Montgomery and fabricated information to Mike Lindell, which has cost him dearly. And Brannon Howse runs around telling people I work for the CIA because that’s what Mary Fanning has told him, and people just promote this.
ZULLO IS NOT (YET) DEAD. :towel: (NADT.)


* Both Fanning and Rondeau have blocked me on Twitter. :dance:
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Lew Harper wrote:All this talk about Clinton emails and classified documents but never any talk about Alberto Gonzales and Colin Powell. . . .
Rondeau wrote:Isn’t that further proof that many government employees, including cabinet secretaries, vice presidents and presidents, have mishandled classified materials? And can you trust the FBI’s report given that Comey declared, “No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case?” In light of current developments, his words ring hollow, no?
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P&E: A Modest Proposal 4.0:
'DeMaio' wrote:"NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART"

Every now and then a “left field” idea strikes your humble servant. The term “left field” is used because to many, the idea would seem so far-fetched and improbable that it could never come to pass in reality. But the only way to ensure failure is to forego the attempt altogether.
Translation: "Dear Penthouse Sharon, I never write letters like this, but...."
Under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, in the event of the death or resignation of a President, “the Vice President shall become president.” ... Thus, assuming that following the announcement of [Biden's] resignation, there would be a short period of time before Kamala Harris was actually sworn in as President – and here is where Modest Proposal 4.0 ventures out onto the left field warning track – Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy could file a court challenge to the constitutional eligibility of Harris.
But see:


The rest is the usual :yankyank: :callonme: .

What's really stupid about this fantasy is that, in the event the veep ascends to the presidency, McCarthy could file this mythical challenge at any time before a new vice president is confirmed. It doesn't have to be this magic window between the presidency's vacancy and Harris' being sworn in. That's just "DeMaio" being stupidly dramatic or dramatically stupid or both simultaneously.

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Kerchner wrote:Now all the readers here need to make a concerted effort to get this DeMaio article before McCarthy’s eyes ASAP so he can read it, think about it, discuss it, and plan for the day such events may happen. Also get it to other key leadership people in the House and to members of the conservative and freedom caucuses. No need to bother with the Senate leadership as I see this, other than FYI, as they would not have any say in it, as I understand the process. So as we say … spread the word.

Incidentally, I believe that Kamala Harris could be challenged also on her simple basic “Citizen” at birth claim (aka Citizen at/by Birth), in addition to the constitutional “natural born Citizen” at birth claim. I do not believe she is even a “Citizen” at birth. She may may now be a basic Citizen having gained U.S. Citizenship later by marriage or some other method later in life depending on when her father naturalized and if Kamala was still a minor child when he naturalized. But I believe she did not gain U.S. Citizenship at birth either under the correct original intent and purpose of the 14th Amendment or under the Wong Kim Ark (1898) SCOTUS decision.
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