Bundy Clan 411

[Uninformed]

Cliven was born in 1946.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cliven+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Er, yes

I meant his father (Roy?), and it might have been 1948.

[ZinWhit]

"What nobody’s really seen before are the financial documents and information relating to how Mr. Bundy is paid and compensated by PRN, and how the money moves between Bundy and PRN and his governor’s campaign,” Stidham said.

Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/loc ... rylink=cpy

[poplove]

Scir has the latest! If you go to the last two minutes of the video, you will hear the plans on how they are going to protect ammo.

Ammonia bloviates in his shop after his BBQ. Same old nonsense and he forgotted his Skousen. He neglects to mention that he pleaded guilty for his STAND. He is all wound up. #oregonstandoff

He took his silly hat off when the poots laid hands on the Holey Profit. Sovcit weirdo Lee was there.

[Dave from down under]

“The time for violence is not yet”

Oh FFS - just arrest all the domestic terrorists.

[scirreeve]

No - that was Bryan Bowermaster.

Deputies: professional
Ammon: unhinged pottymouth

Am I getting the right message here?

Was Gaylord the guy who rode a bike around shirtless screaming at people trying eat lunch al fresco?

I remember that guy but I don't remember if it was Gaylord (and too lazy to go looking). Scirreeve would know.

Sorry to clog this thread with observations.

Don't apologize, I read every post with great interest even if I don't comment.

Sorry to clog this thread with observations.

Here's another.

IMV, Finicum "crossed the Rubicon" when interviewed under the blue tarp. Afterward, it was put up or shut up.

Bundy has had several similar moments and - up until now - hasn't really had a put up or shut up moment.

The Pettinger interview with shotgun threats might have become Ammon's blue tarp moment, while acolyte Gaylord is doing his best today to remind Ammon and his followers of past words demanding action.

It's a dangerous time for Ammon, his acolytes and those in LE.

I still need to watch the videos (lack of time thing more than anything right now) but I don't know. He could have had a rubcon moment at the police stop where Finicum ran but he gave himself up. I don't know if Ammon realized then he would be able to beat the rap so if he was at his moment, he could of ran, but didn't. I'm not sure.

[ZinWhit]

Shane is a want to be pundit, starting in 2020. He even has stuff for sale. He did some Bundy promo stuff during the campaign, and it seems he's the new minister of propaganda.

https://shanetalkspolitics.com/

Watching his vid,

* They are crazy as fuck.
* They had a good turnout.
* Can they sustain it?
* What's this guy's name again? He's no Captain O.

[Jerry Mander]

Great article unmasking Ammhole and his grift:


https://www.politicalpotatoes.org/ammon ... -language/

[scirreeve]

Shane is a want to be pundit, starting in 2020. He even has stuff for sale. He did some Bundy promo stuff during the campaign, and it seems he's the new minister of propaganda.

https://shanetalkspolitics.com/

Watching his vid,

* They are crazy as fuck.
* They had a good turnout.
* Can they sustain it?
* What's this guy's name again? He's no Captain O.

I don't know who that guy is. Pettinger "interviewed" Shane today after Shane edumucated the Sheriff. I'm sure you saw that.

[RVInit]

Great article unmasking Ammhole and his grift:


https://www.politicalpotatoes.org/ammon ... -language/

This is an excellent article, and it points out the fact that Bundy's followers are often Bundy's biggest victims. People really need to be educated about the false arguments he presents, and just as important the fact that he uses fallacies because his actual position is not supportable.

[pipistrelle]

The flip side is we need to understand why people want to believe patent fallacies. Which I can't wrap my head around.

[RVInit]

The flip side is we need to understand why people want to believe patent fallacies. Which I can't wrap my head around.

I think they truly do not recognize they are being fed these deceptive arguments. It goes back to education IMO. It is becoming critically important for our children to be taught how to recognize deceptive arguments and how to think critically. There is too much right wing nonsense out there, and it appeals to the emotion. It's easy to fall prey to these arguments if you don't recognize them as fallacy.

[ZinWhit]

John Nunez is the dude's name.

He's a retired police officer.

Perfect.

[ZinWhit]

Lol.

Nunez lives in Emmett.

A perfect fit.

"Count I of the indictment charged Nunez with racketeering in violation of I.C. § 18-7804(c) through a pattern of racketeering consisting of forty separate acts of theft which occurred between 1990 and 1995, by committing the burglary of the Tri-County and Magic Valley Drug Task Force offices on or about January 30, 1995, and in the presentation of fraudulent accounts.   Count II charged Nunez with the misuse of public money, which money was either missing and unaccounted for or used for unauthorized purpose.   Counts III and IV charged Walden and Nunez respectively with falsifying public records as police officers.   Four additional counts charged Nunez with separate sales tax violations, and the final count charged Nunez with conspiracy to destroy, alter, or conceal evidence, alleging the burglary of the drug task force offices as one of two, specified overt acts committed in furtherance of the conspiracy.   The indictment was twice amended before trial."

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/id-su ... 00665.html

[raison de arizona]

Only the best people.

[Foggy]

Wait, how does Nuñez fit in? Is he the same person as Shane?

It rained on my scorecard again, everything is all foggy blurry.

[ZinWhit]

Nunez is not Shane.

Nunez has been with Bundy for years, since PRN began. He appears to be Bundy’s security guy, and while protesting at St Luke's and while Bundy was on the campaign trail would act in such fashion, sometimes questioning people while gatekeeping. As an old man, I forgot his name earlier.

Shane is a relative new comer, much younger, appearing mid-way through the campaign.

This is Nunez.

[ZinWhit]

Robert Jones- who went to jail for disturbing the peace at St. Luke's while Ammon took a plea deal - says he's the "gatekeeper" at Bundy’s compound.

[raison de arizona]

written on back window re: inverted US flag
in distress
not disrespect

[ZinWhit]

Pettinger is a piece of shit, using homophobic slurs toward several folks as he helps Jones gatekeep.

And, he thinks he's a journalist, the Idaho Dispatch thinks it's journalism. Obviously, neither is the case.

[curmudgeon]

It took me a while to get around to watching it, but the 4/18 episode of FBI: Most Wanted (CBS) was centered on a Bundy-like standoff and even mentioned the profit by name.
FBI: Most Wanted: S4 Ep18
https://www.showbizjunkies.com/tv/fbi-m ... pisode-18/

[ZinWhit]

Bundy believes that episode airing on that day was a conspiracy.

[bob]

I've heard this story before. Twice.

[raison de arizona]

https://twitter.com/CheriSpeakBlog/stat ... 8705794048
I've heard this story before. Twice.

Boy that Ammon Bundy is going to have to do a whole heck of a lot more than this iffin' he wants to get arrested. In the meantime, at least he's taking a bunch of nuts off the street to "stand watch" at his property.

[poplove]

Gee, I wonder where kkkarl and the mighty AMFF are? Shirley their services are needed along with a shofar blower.

[RVInit]

Bundy learned long ago that all he has to do is surround himself with zealots with guns and law enforcement will stand down.