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Where are you seeing this shit?
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ZinWhit wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:50 pm Am spending some time following the money of this movement that coincided with the rise of PRN.

Got this in the mail the other day. Costs money.
Hint: if you wish to have anonymity do not only blamk out name and address but also the delivery bar code. It points directly to your home and can easily decoded by functions on the web.

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RTH10260 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:33 pm

Hint: if you wish to have anonymity do not only blank out name and address but also the deiivery bar code. It points directly to your home.
Yup, it's used to sort directly to YOUR address.
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Ya, I was about to say the same thing. I'd take down that picture and replace it with one with the barcode blanked as well.
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Good to know. Thank you.

It's a "boxholder" Addy, meaning PO. Box for us. It doesn't ID our physical Addy, but I'm glad I now know this.

Thanks again.
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scirreeve wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:27 pm Where are you seeing this shit?
Re: KBasin, see the most recent (Kliewer and his brother have a history). https://www.peoplesrights.org/news_view ... 3178b96735

Re: concealed carry (note it is held at Liberty Hall, the NCCS "War Room.") https://lovingliberty.net/product/james ... rry-class/
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ZinWhit wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:34 pm Before and just after #oregonstandoff JJ MacNab followed me on social media, appreciating some of my work. Then, I pressed both she and her cadre to include a description of a distinct Mormon subset of sovereign citizens that drive much of the indoctrination. I was promptly deplatformed by this cadre, a bigot.
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ZinWhit wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:55 am
scirreeve wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:27 pm Where are you seeing this shit?
Re: KBasin, see the most recent (Kliewer and his brother have a history). https://www.peoplesrights.org/news_view ... 3178b96735

Re: concealed carry (note it is held at Liberty Hall, the NCCS "War Room.") https://lovingliberty.net/product/james ... rry-class/
Yeah - I saw that stuff today - I was late to the party.
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Tidbits.

The Bundy campaign hasn't updated their campaign finance data since 3/8 (where he loaned his campaign another $16k). Curious if they will in the next few days, the monthly reporting deadline.

The recent piece detailing Bundy's campaign paying his business did not include his loans to himself that now are over $100k.

Mentioning pieces,

"They’ve repeatedly shown an ability to mobilize large number of armed far-right activists to threaten, harass, and intimidate public officials,” said Devin Burghart, director of the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights, a non-profit that monitors the far right."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ight-idaho

Curious who "they" are.

Today, for Olmos and Burghardt, it's Bundy.

However, for decades it's been the Sagebrush Rebellion and its ties to militias.

IMO, these pieces and statements have consistently missed the larger, historical movement behind Bundy. His roots are the SAGEBRUSH REBELLION lead by BERT AND KATHY SMITH, seeder of CSPOA and ALC, owner of NFLC and NCCS. For decades they've funded and mobilized "large numbers of armed far-right activists to threaten, harass, and intimidate public officials," seen through '90s USFS bombings, Bucket Brigade, Jarbidge Shovel, Mary Bulloch, Wayne Hage, Bundys, Finicum, Malheur and now PRN.

If anything, beginning in the '80s, the Sagebrush Rebs PIONEERED modern threats to public officials in order to get their way, not Trump, the Proud Boys or the Oathkeepers / III% (Rhodes influenced by Mack). They all learned from Bert Smith and Ron Arnold's Wise Use Movement 90's pre-OKC collaboration when the NFLC newsletter published "Why There Is a Need for a Militia in America."

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... l01356.pdf

Said Demar Dahl in 2012 in a speech celebrating Bert Smith regarding Jarbidge:

"We did it and we stood up to 'em and because we stood up to 'em we held 'em back for awhile."

Well, that's what they've learned, PRN the latest army to stand, no longer held back by newsletters and snail mail, indoctrination and actions still funded by Smith.

And, rest assured. When Ammon is finally jailed the Sagebrush Rebs will find another to replace him, as Kathy Smith has plenty of time, money, is organized and still motivated, a calling from their Mormon God.
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2022 is so 1994.

From that NFLC newsletter.
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ZinWhit wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:15 pm 2022 is so 1994.

From that NFLC newsletter.
One minor detail I've always been fasinated by is how attacheded people are to the idea that 'american troops will not fire on american's!" under the idea that americans will not harm each other, yet they openly talk about harming other americans. Even within this piece there is the idea that troops will rather desert than fire on them, but militia members share no such discomfort.
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Well the US military is governed by laws and are to uphold the constitution.

While the militia are just murderous thugs.
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neeneko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:44 pm :snippity:
One minor detail I've always been fasinated by is how attacheded people are to the idea that 'american troops will not fire on american's!" under the idea that americans will not harm each other, yet they openly talk about harming other americans. Even within this piece there is the idea that troops will rather desert than fire on them, but militia members share no such discomfort.
:o Didn't their history lessons include the events of the early 1860s?
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:25 pm
neeneko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:44 pm :snippity:
One minor detail I've always been fasinated by is how attacheded people are to the idea that 'american troops will not fire on american's!" under the idea that americans will not harm each other, yet they openly talk about harming other americans. Even within this piece there is the idea that troops will rather desert than fire on them, but militia members share no such discomfort.
:o Didn't their history lessons include the events of the early 1860s?
They don't view liberals or Democrats as Americans, hence the "better Russian than Democrat" nonsense, etc. American troops won't fire on REAL Americans, i.e., them.
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An update on Ammo's court stuff.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:25 pm
neeneko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:44 pm :snippity:
One minor detail I've always been fasinated by is how attacheded people are to the idea that 'american troops will not fire on american's!" under the idea that americans will not harm each other, yet they openly talk about harming other americans. Even within this piece there is the idea that troops will rather desert than fire on them, but militia members share no such discomfort.
:o Didn't their history lessons include the events of the early 1860s?
American troops also fired on Americans during the Whiskey Rebellion (1794) and the Bonus Army removal (1932).
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Volkonski wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:13 am
Sam the Centipede wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:25 pm
neeneko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:44 pm :snippity:
One minor detail I've always been fasinated by is how attacheded people are to the idea that 'american troops will not fire on american's!" under the idea that americans will not harm each other, yet they openly talk about harming other americans. Even within this piece there is the idea that troops will rather desert than fire on them, but militia members share no such discomfort.
:o Didn't their history lessons include the events of the early 1860s?
American troops also fired on Americans during the Whiskey Rebellion (1794) and the Bonus Army removal (1932).
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Ammon guilty of contempt.
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What's funny is he could have completed his service at Rodriquez' Freedom Tabernacle.

Here's hoping he gets a week in the clink and PRN goes nuts with their 50-100 people.
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Deep down, a thug.
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Yaass
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And now the threats and protests against the judge begin.
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ZinWhit wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:17 pmYaass
Ten days in jail? He could do that standing on his head. ;)
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Thankfully Idaho is a SYG state. The judge just has to see him in front of her blocking the sidewalk, and she can sentence him to the Mormon celestial eternity. Move his high maintenance self off this plane into the next.
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I imagine LE has a contingency by now. Perhaps, AGs, also.

I submit whatever protests that do occur will be small in size - unless Rodriquez plays it up, which would shine a direct light on their PRN laundry.
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