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They aren't even hiding it anymore, they are coming for our birth control.
CALL TO ACTIVISM @CalltoActivism wrote: Trump suck up Senator Marsha Blackburn just called the Supreme Court decision Griswold v. Connecticut - “constitutionally unsound” - That is the 1965 Supreme Court ruling that legalized birth control.

What do you say to her?

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Next thing you know they'll be saying that the constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote is unconstitutional!
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I'd say that one person will say anything to get into the Newspapers and get people clicking on her.

And, just one person saying something is not a "They" coming for anything. Call me when a number of people greater than zero say they agree with her.

And before anyone says anything about me saying that as a foul Catholic, I've actually read Humanae Vitae, and Birth control is alcoved in cases of Medical need. Yes, I know that "reading it" is more than some Catholics have done, but hey...

https://www.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/ ... vitae.html
Lawful Therapeutic Means

15. On the other hand, the Church does not consider at all illicit the use of those therapeutic means necessary to cure bodily diseases, even if a foreseeable impediment to procreation should result there from—provided such impediment is not directly intended for any motive whatsoever. (19)

(19) See Pius XII, Address to 26th Congress of Italian Association of Urology: AAS 45 (1953), 674-675; to Society of Hematology: AAS 50 (1958), 734-735 [TPS VI, 394-395].
In addition, I have said on the forum before that I don't actually agree with the Church blanket ban on Birth control and think its incomparable with the Church teaching for responsible family sizes.

So, I guess that showed you, huh?
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This is hardly the first time I've heard this, nor is it the only person who has espoused it. I'm not going to go hunting for other examples at this time, but I suspect plenty will organically appear in the coming months.

ETA: except this that I just randomly ran across
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:04 pm This is hardly the first time I've heard this, nor is it the only person who has espoused it. I'm not going to go hunting for other examples at this time, but I suspect plenty will organically appear in the coming months.
But some guy in some other country with some other opinion who has read some stuff disagrees with you, so you're obviously wrong and Blackburn is the only one who has ever said it.
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now that I'm actively not looking for it, it's all over my twitter feed
Abigail Spanberger @SpanbergerForVA wrote: This week, Governor Youngkin refused to sign a bill to protect access to contraception. Instead, he gutted the bill’s protections for IUDs, birth control, and emergency contraceptives.

As the next Governor of Virginia, I will defend the right to contraception for all Virginians.
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Yeah, tell me again how it’s God‘s will that women conceive year after Year, free from medical or pharmaceutical interference but as soon as ED enters the picture, Viagra is a must-have and God‘s will is immediately forgotten.

(And I’m not knocking Viagra. Just noting the hypocrisy.)
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:09 pm Yeah, tell me again how it’s God‘s will that women conceive year after Year, free from medical or pharmaceutical interference but as soon as ED enters the picture, Viagra is a must-have and God‘s will is immediately forgotten.

(And I’m not knocking Viagra. Just noting the hypocrisy.)
In 1864, when Arizona wrote that bill, 325 children out of 1000 did not live to age 5. That's how God handled birth control.
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I know I said I wouldn't do this, but they keep popping up.
Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ wrote: Q: Everything going on with Roe right now, they’re saying you’re coming after gay marriage and birth control next?

Trump-endorsed candidate: Sex ought to be between one man and one woman in the confines of marriage. Birth control should not be legal
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Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ wrote: Q: Do you support any restrictions on a person’s right to contraception?

Trump: We’re looking at that
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Trump says he will ‘never advocate’ for contraception restrictions after earlier saying he’s ‘looking at’ them

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/2 ... n-00159118
Donald Trump insisted in a social media post Tuesday that he has “never, and will never advocate imposing restrictions on birth control or other contraceptives,” after an interview released hours earlier included Trump saying he’s “looking at” restrictions on contraception.

The post came after Trump said in an interview with a local TV station in Pittsburgh that he plans to share a policy on contraception “very shortly,” without providing details.

“We’re looking at that, and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly and I think it’s something that you’ll find interesting,” Trump told KDKA political analyst Jon Delano when asked if he supported any restrictions on a person’s right to contraception.

KDKA declined to tell POLITICO when the interview was recorded, but the Biden campaign released video of the exchange on Tuesday.

Trump added in the interview, “you will find it very smart. I think it’s a smart decision.”

In his social media post later Tuesday afternoon, Trump denied ever suggesting that he would impose restrictions on birth control.
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Gee, what to believe? Was tfg at first telling the truth, but now lying? Or was tfg lying at first, but telling the truth now? One might should not bet their reproductive health on him.
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Volkonski wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:16 pm Trump says he will ‘never advocate’ for contraception restrictions after earlier saying he’s ‘looking at’ them
:snippity:
The "We are looking at that" is his escape clause when he does not want to commit to anything in an interview. Here of course he steps right into the puddle :violin:
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RTH10260 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:41 pm
Volkonski wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:16 pm Trump says he will ‘never advocate’ for contraception restrictions after earlier saying he’s ‘looking at’ them
:snippity:
The "We are looking at that" is his escape clause when he does not want to commit to anything in an interview. Here of course he steps right into the puddle :violin:
One of the things I have always found amazing about his political 'appeal' is that the man famously can't commit to ideas, and yet is believed to be so decisive. He simply waffles and pushes back and uses weasel words and yet, "Wow, such a take-charge leader."
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His cult doesn't care.
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AndyinPA wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:05 pm His cult doesn't care.
They do care. They want to model something like the Lebensborn program of the 1940s.
Largo al factotum.
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So, Louisiana christofascists know better than medical professionals?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lo ... rcna153052

The measure, which has drawn support from anti-abortion groups and alarm from medical professionals and reproductive rights advocates, would add the medications mifepristone and misoprostol to Schedule IV of the state’s Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law. Abortion — both medical and surgical — is illegal in Louisiana, so it is already illegal to prescribe the medications to terminate pregnancies, except in very limited circumstances.
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Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ wrote: Top Trump supporter Marsha Blackburn says Griswold v. Connecticut is “constitutionally unsound”

(Griswold v. Connecticut is the 1965 Supreme Court ruling that legalized birth control)
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I guess anyone with a BS degree in Home Economics from Mississippi State would be in a position to know that Griswold v. Connecticut is bad law it would be her.
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The Biden campaign is leaning into the birth control issue.
Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ wrote: Left: Trump operative Charlie Kirk saying Trump needs to go after birth control because he says it “screws up female brains”

Right: Trump now saying he is “looking at” banning contraception including birth control
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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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Wait a minute, infertile people, older people, et. al. aren't supposed to have fun? Including ACB? (Presumably she's past child-bearing age.)
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raison de arizona wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:19 pm The Biden campaign is leaning into the birth control issue.
Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ wrote: Left: Trump operative Charlie Kirk saying Trump needs to go after birth control because he says it “screws up female brains”

Right: Trump now saying he is “looking at” banning contraception including birth control
Of course he is because he and scumbags like him will always have abortions available for their mistresses.
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I'd say something about Gilead here, but it might trigger sensitive mansplainers.
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If birth control is outlaw then only outlaws will use birth control.
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