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Foggy wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:58 am When science is outlawed, only outlaws will have science.
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I have a stack of bumper stickers that say exactly that.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:53 pm I have a stack of bumper stickers that say exactly that.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr @RobertKennedyJr wrote: Huge victory as Kennedy v Biden is consolidated with Missouri v Biden. My case is a class action suit on behalf of individuals censored by the White House, who were harmed and whose rights were infringed by not hearing our messages. As Frederick Douglass pointed out, every act of censorship has two classes of victims; the speakers and the listeners!
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Suggesting Kennedy's whine about being denied Secret Service protections is (1) a lie; and (2) a racist dogwhistle.
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Wow, that 14/88 reference coupled with his antisemitic covid claims are pretty damning. No wonder the Rs like him so much.
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That 14/88 seemed to be pulled out his butt, and it was!
ClearingTheFog @clearing_fog wrote: We all knew RFK Jr was just signaling to Nazis when he used 14 and 88.

Now it’s confirmed.
JJ in DC @JJintheUS wrote: It was 57 days from the date on RFK Jr’s letter requesting Secret Service protection to the date on this formal response from DHS.

57 days. Not 88 days. 🤨
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Sad, really.
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I'm done. The above, plus this right here, kills my sympathy. The arrogance of the ignorant plus the ceaseless cherry-picking. Idiot.

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Robert F Kennedy Jr’s campaign bankrolled by Republican mega-donor
Super Pac affiliated with anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist received $5m from Trump backer Timothy Mellon

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A Super Pac affiliated with Robert F Kennedy Jr, the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist running for president as a Democrat, owes half its cash to a longtime Republican mega-donor and Trump backer, according to campaign finance reports filed on Monday.

The group, American Values 2024, reported receiving $5m from Timothy Mellon, a wealthy businessman from Wyoming, according to NBC News and Politico. It registered with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) in April, days before Kennedy officially launched his campaign, according to FEC records.

Mellon, 81, is the grandson of Andrew Mellon, a former US treasury secretary who made his fortune in banking. The Texas Tribune reported that Mellon, a top donor to Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election effort, supported controversial immigration laws and was responsible for 98% of the contributions to the Texas governor Greg Abbott’s fund to build a border wall. Mellon, who twice gave $10m to the Trump-aligned America First Action Super Pac in 2020, also used racist stereotypes to describe Black people in an autobiography he self-published in 2015.

“The fact that Kennedy gets so much bipartisan support tells me two things: that he’s the one candidate who can unite the country and root out corruption and that he’s the one Democrat who can win in the general election,” Mellon said in a press release by the Super Pac circulated ahead of the reporting deadline.

Kennedy’s campaign attracted a considerable amount of support from Republican donors in the weeks since he announced his run in April. A political watchdog found that Kennedy has a “long history” of antisemitism, racism and xenophobia.

The Super Pac, which described federal policies aimed at containing Covid-19 as “draconian”, received nearly all of the rest of its funding from another billionaire donor, Gavin de Becker, an author and security specialist associated with Jeff Bezos. De Becker has given to both Republican and Democratic candidates, according to FEC records, more recently including Ron Johnson, a Republican senator of Wisconsin, and businessman and the failed 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang.

Together, Mellon and De Becker account for about 97% of total donations to the Super Pac.




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To be fair, democrats also engage in this kind of ratfucking.*

The only thing surprising is the amount of money being pissed away. But less for the generals.


* The technical term for funding your opponent's opponents.
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neonzx wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:52 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:42 pm It's forking Tenpenny! If you haven't heard of her, suffice to say that she has been an antivax loon for A Long TIme.
OH NOES.

The vax makes you magnetic. I am sure I shared my story of my Qanon conspiracy neighbor when she ran up to me at a small outdoor gathering. She knew I had been vaxxed. She came to me where I had received the shot. I showed her, pulled up my sleeve and she tries to make a metal trinket stick on my arm. It just fell off. :biggrin:
Tenpenny just lost her license :lol:
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC wrote: The Ohio State Medical Board has suspended the medical license of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny after hundreds of people reported her for claiming at a committee meeting that vaccines cause people to become magnetic, with spoons sticking to them.

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Thanks for the info on Sherri Tenpenny's defrocking and disbarment. About time too.

I don't know much about USA medical education, so I don't know how signficant - or not - it is that Sherri Tenpenny studied to be an DO, a doctor of osteopathic medicine, rather than the more traditional MD medical doctor. Wikipedia says DOs receive a real evidence-based medical education and are fully recognized as mainstream doctors, but they have an extra dollop of osteopathy. Of course osteopathy in the sense of treating problems in the body's musculoskeletal systems is fine, but I wonder how much of it is closer to chiropractic nonsense, the idea that every ailment stems from the spine and bones, and fluxions (that's not the right word, is it? it's a word with a similar shape I think?) of the spine are super-important and great cures can be effected by manipulation of the spinal column associated with the expenditure of serious amounts of cash.

But how can anyone with any sort of medical or scientific education be sucked into an idiotic claim that vaccines make the injected person magnetic? Claiming vaccines cause problems to the immune system would have some vague plausibility, but how could a vaccine possibly induce magnetism in the inherently non-magnetic human body? Especially when the idea that cutlery is attracted to vaccinated people is so easily testable and demonstrably false.

Again per Wikipedia, she engaged in wild anti-semitic and conspiracy-laden rants, so perhaps the lesson is that education cannot guarantee that the recipient won't become a nasty crackpot.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:59 pm Thanks for the info on Sherri Tenpenny's defrocking and disbarment. About time too.

I don't know much about USA medical education, so I don't know how signficant - or not - it is that Sherri Tenpenny studied to be an DO, a doctor of osteopathic medicine, rather than the more traditional MD medical doctor. Wikipedia says DOs receive a real evidence-based medical education and are fully recognized as mainstream doctors, but they have an extra dollop of osteopathy. Of course osteopathy in the sense of treating problems in the body's musculoskeletal systems is fine, but I wonder how much of it is closer to chiropractic nonsense, the idea that every ailment stems from the spine and bones, and fluxions (that's not the right word, is it? it's a word with a similar shape I think?) of the spine are super-important and great cures can be effected by manipulation of the spinal column associated with the expenditure of serious amounts of cash.
My doctor is a DO and there's been no chiropractic nonsense from him at all. He's never suggested any of my problems are spine-related or that I need any kind of "adjustments" to fix me.
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Thanks Kriselda. I think Wikipedia gave some numbers for DOs in the US and there are clearly a lot of them, and enough accredited courses that they must generally be sound.

Apart from my usual skepticism (yeah, that's me!) I think I am influenced partly by the stories of Britt Marie Hermes, who trained and qualified as a naturopath with serious mainstream prescribing etc. privileges before becoming apostate and transferring to the scientific and rational side of medicine.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:59 pm
But how can anyone with any sort of medical or scientific education be sucked into an idiotic claim that vaccines make the injected person magnetic? Claiming vaccines cause problems to the immune system would have some vague plausibility, but how could a vaccine possibly induce magnetism in the inherently non-magnetic human body? Especially when the idea that cutlery is attracted to vaccinated people is so easily testable and demonstrably false.

My paternal grandmother couldn't stick spoons to her face (as far as I know) but she couldn't wear a watch either, unless it had a leather band that went between the watch and her wrist. If the back of the watch was touching her wrist, it went dead in a matter of hours. She had "too much electricity" in her body.
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I have a friend like that.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:29 pm I have a friend like that.
My dad was like that, at least according to him. He always used a pocket watch.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:14 pm My paternal grandmother couldn't stick spoons to her face (as far as I know) but she couldn't wear a watch either, unless it had a leather band that went between the watch and her wrist. If the back of the watch was touching her wrist, it went dead in a matter of hours. She had "too much electricity" in her body.
OK, I love the stories about your sooper interesting fambly, Sugar, but that's metaphysically absurd, man. Your paternal grandmother's watches, for most of her life, were mechanical. You had to wind them up every day.

They didn't run on electricity, they ran on a high-quality steel spring. I need a mechanical engineer to help me out here. Where's V?

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Foggy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:41 am
sugar magnolia wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:14 pm My paternal grandmother couldn't stick spoons to her face (as far as I know) but she couldn't wear a watch either, unless it had a leather band that went between the watch and her wrist. If the back of the watch was touching her wrist, it went dead in a matter of hours. She had "too much electricity" in her body.
OK, I love the stories about your sooper interesting fambly, Sugar, but that's metaphysically absurd, man. Your paternal grandmother's watches, for most of her life, were mechanical. You had to wind them up every day.

They didn't run on electricity, they ran on a high-quality steel spring. I need a mechanical engineer to help me out here. Where's V?

I is confuzzle. :confuzzled:
They had batteries. I spent summers with them from the early 60s into the 80s and saw her search for the bands constantly, too. She tried to keep at least one extra at all times because they were hard to find and she was a florist, so they stayed wet half the time and broke fairly often.
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My dad never had a battery watch either. He claimed his body 'electricity' magnetised the spring.

But he was a diesel mechanic. I reckon he had a heck of a lot more magnets around him than his wrists. And I reckon he would have taken his watch off his wrist while banging around in the engine compartment of a city bus or a 100-ton ore hauler or washing his hands and wrists in solvent. He had LOTS of opportunities to wreck a wristwatch without invoking electric auras in his body.
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A florist? Perhaps the moisture seeped into the watch movement.

When I was a boy I would get cheap watches as Xmas gifts. None of them lasted very long.

Then in high school I won a good quality Swiss watch in a Boston area science competition. I wore that watch until retired.

I remember an episode of the "Mr. Novak" TV series which aired when I was in high school in which the principal, played by Dean Jagger, mentioned that his school's clock system was malfunctioning because it showed the wrong time compared to his watch which he had had for 20 years. I found that unbelievable. ;)
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Oh man, I gotta boost my electricity in my body. Hmm ... :think:

I think maybe I'll start small, like maybe a few AAA batteries instead of sausage links.
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