Spreadnecks: COVIDIOTS, Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
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If I were inclined to profanity, I'd say "fuck him"
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Re: Spreadnecks: COVIDIOTS, Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
If these folks had conscious objections the Pope's permission should wipe that out as their objections are usually voiced as objections to the whole fetal stem thing. They don't have conscious objections, they have political objections and as is normal with some American archbishops right now, they are more interested in playing politics than playing pastor.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:36 am Well that's helpful.Catholic Troops Can Refuse COVID Vaccine, Archbishop Declares
“No one should be forced to receive a COVID-19 vaccine if it would violate the sanctity of his or her conscience,” Broglio wrote.
In his new statement, the archbishop said that while he still encourages followers and troops to get vaccinated, some troops have questioned if the church’s permission to get vaccinated outweighed their own conscious objections to it.
“It does not,” Broglio wrote.
Nobody is forcing them to get the vaccine. They are just being told, they cannot serve in the military without getting it.
Oh and looky at all the current requirements for vaccines to serve in various theaters. It includes NORTHCOM which is essentially, the United States.
https://www.health.mil/MHSHome/Military ... OR#AFRICOM
The COVID vaccine objection in the military is BS. They are not objecting to Polio or the annual flu shot which is also required.
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And yet the Pope has addressed this very clearly.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:36 am Well that's helpful.Catholic Troops Can Refuse COVID Vaccine, Archbishop Declares
“No one should be forced to receive a COVID-19 vaccine if it would violate the sanctity of his or her conscience,” Broglio wrote.
Dec 21, 2020: Note on the morality of using
some anti-Covid-19 vaccines:
"...it is morally acceptable to receive COVID-19 vaccines..."
"All vaccinations recognized as clinically safe and effective can be used in good conscience..."
Jan 11, 2021:
[url]I believe that morally everyone must take the vaccine..."
"It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others."
"...but today people must take the vaccine..."
Sept 15, 2021: Get vaccinated and help others get vaccinated.
Being vaccinated with vaccines authorized by the competent authorities is an act of love. And contributing to ensure the majority of people are vaccinated is an act of love," he said. "Vaccination is a simple but profound way of promoting the common good and caring for each other, especially the most vulnerable."
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Wow, it sounds an awful lot like you are calling the Archbishop of the U.S. Armed Forced immoral.LM K wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:10 pm Jan 11, 2021:
I believe that morally everyone must take the vaccine..."
"It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others."
"...but today people must take the vaccine..."
Sept 15, 2021: Get vaccinated and help others get vaccinated.
Being vaccinated with vaccines authorized by the competent authorities is an act of love. And contributing to ensure the majority of people are vaccinated is an act of love," he said. "Vaccination is a simple but profound way of promoting the common good and caring for each other, especially the most vulnerable."
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Love? Caring for each other? ESPECIALLY THE MOST VULNERABLE??!?Being vaccinated with vaccines authorized by the competent authorities is an act of love. And contributing to ensure the majority of people are vaccinated is an act of love," he said. "Vaccination is a simple but profound way of promoting the common good and caring for each other, especially the most vulnerable.
I think I see the problem here.
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See, I think there should be repercussions for these Archbishops and their elk who contradict the Pope. Like, you want to refuse communion to Biden after the FREAKING POPE said different, you want to deny life saving vaccines after (once again) the FREAKING POPE said different, then how about you find a church that supports your wack-a-doodle beliefs and move on? Or he could call them home for remedial education. I dunno. I'm probably inviting a hijack here (oops) because I Don't Understand How These Things Work, but it really burns my britches that these holy men get away with this and don't get called out on the carpet and corrected to the church's POV.
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Well the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is the descendent of the Roman Inquisition....just sayn'....raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:43 pm See, I think there should be repercussions for these Archbishops and their elk who contradict the Pope. Like, you want to refuse communion to Biden after the FREAKING POPE said different, you want to deny life saving vaccines after (once again) the FREAKING POPE said different, then how about you find a church that supports your wack-a-doodle beliefs and move on? Or he could call them home for remedial education. I dunno. I'm probably inviting a hijack here (oops) because I Don't Understand How These Things Work, but it really burns my britches that these holy men get away with this and don't get called out on the carpet and corrected to the church's POV.
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I was not expecting that.
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Well, I hardly want to be onboard with calling for an inquisition, but screw these ultra-conservative American Archbishops that keep going against the Pope. They certainly aren't helping the church expand or grow. Or helping anything else for that matter, beyond placating a bunch of nutters.
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Like their evangelical counterparts, thier nutters tend to be both loyal and donate heavily to the church. Like all politicians, they are simply responding to the political realities of their position.. meaning the root of the blame comes down to the congregations and the institutions (like the many hospital systems)raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:00 pm Well, I hardly want to be onboard with calling for an inquisition, but screw these ultra-conservative American Archbishops that keep going against the Pope. They certainly aren't helping the church expand or grow. Or helping anything else for that matter, beyond placating a bunch of nutters.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/202 ... /100533564
Scientists talking about COVID-19 are copping widespread abuse and death threats, survey finds
ABC Science / By Anna Salleh
The survey of scientists in New Zealand, the UK, Germany, Canada, and Taiwan was triggered by a smaller study of Australian scientists by the Australian Science Media Centre, also published in Nature.
Overall, the Australian survey found that 31 of the 50 respondents reported some level of trolling.
And one in five respondents had received death threats and/or threats of physical or sexual violence after speaking to the media about COVID-19.
While the surveys found scientists have had mostly positive experiences with the media, the abuse is having a chilling effect.
About 40 per cent of the Australian scientists and 60 per cent of international scientists say the attacks attacks have impacted their willingness to speak to the media in the future.
Scientists talking about COVID-19 are copping widespread abuse and death threats, survey finds
ABC Science / By Anna Salleh
The survey of scientists in New Zealand, the UK, Germany, Canada, and Taiwan was triggered by a smaller study of Australian scientists by the Australian Science Media Centre, also published in Nature.
Overall, the Australian survey found that 31 of the 50 respondents reported some level of trolling.
And one in five respondents had received death threats and/or threats of physical or sexual violence after speaking to the media about COVID-19.
While the surveys found scientists have had mostly positive experiences with the media, the abuse is having a chilling effect.
About 40 per cent of the Australian scientists and 60 per cent of international scientists say the attacks attacks have impacted their willingness to speak to the media in the future.
Re: Spreadnecks: COVIDIOTS, Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Luis Ewing update. He survived the "biological weapon" and is home.
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Actually, he's right.
COVID-19 *is* a biological weapon.
What he misses is that it is a weapon wielded by nature.
We homo sapiens have spent most of our existence fighting against (and doing great harm to) nature.
COVID-19 *is* a biological weapon.
What he misses is that it is a weapon wielded by nature.
We homo sapiens have spent most of our existence fighting against (and doing great harm to) nature.
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So is the US Court System, which was based on the adversarial system the Inquisition worked by.Frater I*I wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm Well the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is the descendent of the Roman Inquisition....just sayn'....
But on the wider point there is actually very little the church can do when a bishop goes off the rails. The Pope is very much constrained by the bureaucracy of the Vatican, but Bishops run their own little fiefdoms and can basically tell the Pope to take a hike on administrative matters.
The Catholic church is not the Pyramid of Authority like popular belief might indicate, but is more like wheel with different spokes connected by the Pope in the center. People like the LDS Prophet has far more direct control. The only direct control the Pope has is deciding who gets promoted to Cardinal. There are not many direct sanctions the Pope can level.
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Re: Spreadnecks: COVIDIOTS, Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
That crazy Alaska state senator got the covid. Of course she is deworming herself.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-mask ... roven-medsTwo Republican state senators in Alaska have tested positive for COVID-19 and one has been leveraging her platform on Facebook to tout a cocktail of vitamins and ivermectin as a miracle cure while railing against recommendations by public health officials.
“Its my turn to battle Covid head on... game on!” Republican state Sen. Lora Reinbold wrote on Facebook on Tuesday night. “When I defeat it, I will tell you my recipe.”
Sen. David Wilson also tested positive and was managing minor symptoms. A third lawmaker, Sen. Click Bishop, tested negative in a first test after feeling sick, Anchorage Daily News reported.
On Tuesday night, Reinbold complained on Facebook that she was “completely unimpressed” with instructions she’d supposedly been given to take Tylenol after testing positive, alleging it was a “bad recipe” from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Department of Health. (The CDC website says a patient’s supervising doctor might recommend ibuprofen to reduce fever, but the agency does not offer formal instructions on treatment).
She claimed she was taking matters into her own hands and was using a Vicks steamer while downing a slew of vitamins, zinc, aspirin and the parasitic drug ivermectin, which has not been proven to treat COVID.
“I am blessed to have gotten Ivirmectin [sic] the ‘de -covider,’” she added, promising those following along on social media that she would provide periodic updates and stay out of the hospital. “Some of them seem like scary places these days,” she wrote.
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It's a wonder some of these people can put one foot in front of the other each morning.
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Good points, Suranis.Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:55 pmSo is the US Court System, which was based on the adversarial system the Inquisition worked by.Frater I*I wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm Well the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is the descendent of the Roman Inquisition....just sayn'....
But on the wider point there is actually very little the church can do when a bishop goes off the rails. The Pope is very much constrained by the bureaucracy of the Vatican, but Bishops run their own little fiefdoms and can basically tell the Pope to take a hike on administrative matters.
The Catholic church is not the Pyramid of Authority like popular belief might indicate, but is more like wheel with different spokes connected by the Pope in the center. People like the LDS Prophet has far more direct control. The only direct control the Pope has is deciding who gets promoted to Cardinal. There are not many direct sanctions the Pope can level.
I'm absolutely not arguing that there should be sanctions.
I think it's brilliant that Pope Francis and the Vatican has repeatedly encouraged that the faithful get vaccinated and help other get vaccinated.
Protestants don't have an official hierarchy of leadership. Catholicism has an elaborate leadership structure.
Pope Francis has been so consistent about covid vaccines. If vaccination is an act of love, a morally responsible act, life affirming, etc, why are there so many Catholics opposed to vaccination?
Essentially, Pope Francis and the Vatican are encouraging the faithful to avoid the greater evil ... dying unnecessarily and spreading a potentially fatal disease.
I don't want to go down the abortion rabbit hole here. My thoughts are about the role of the Pope and responsibilities the faithful to following the Pope.
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The more time Reinhold spends pooping is less time she spends governing.scirreeve wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:19 pm That crazy Alaska state senator got the covid. Of course she is deworming herself.https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-mask ... roven-meds
“I am blessed to have gotten Ivirmectin [sic] the ‘de -covider,’” she added, promising those following along on social media that she would provide periodic updates and stay out of the hospital. “Some of them seem like scary places these days,” she wrote.
Give that woman as much Ivermectin as possible!
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That is completely false. The US Court System is NOT descended from the "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition" AND the the inquisition worked by (wait for it...) the "inquisitorial system". Frater's comment is true but only if by "descendant" you mean the exact same thing in all particulars other than the name.Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:55 pmSo is the US Court System, which was based on the adversarial system the Inquisition worked by.Frater I*I wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm Well the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is the descendent of the Roman Inquisition....just sayn'....
If you are unclear about the differences between the adversarial system as used in the United States, and the inquisitorial system as used in the Roman Catholic Church, you might try this link : https://moodle.pmaclism.catholic.edu.au ... p?id=13369 (a moodle learning page from a Catholic School: MacKillop College, Port Macquarie, New South Wales, Australia)
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Well, that was a whole load of Froth and spittle.
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Another one bites the dust.
UPDATE 3 (10/12/21); Rob's Flat Earther fans have an update on Rob Skiba:
#coronavirus #BrianStaveley
Rob Skiba In Critical Condition Brian Staveley Thinks It's Fake
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Video costs $2.00, no way. Will see if it ends up somewhere else.*
* ETA: This is a "pre-Rofkin" video on YouTube. Wow, there are a LOT of videos about this. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... %253D%253D
RIP - A Farewell Message to Rob Skiba - Rose777, Karen B, Jason and Me. IMPORTANT INFO!
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Full post at https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/ro ... with-covidRob Skiba, 52, Dallas, TX, Author, Evangelical Flat-earther, Anti-vaxxer, dead from COVID.
UPDATE (10/14/21): Rob Skiba has passed away from COVID. More below.
Original Post (9/27/21):
According to social media posts, Rob has COVID and is in the ICU on a ventilator. Rob is author and is seen as a leader in the evangelical flat-earth society. So, OF COURSE, he's an anti-vaxxer. Most conspiracy theorists theories don't come back to haunt them which is the nice thing about being a conspiracy theorist - "no harm, no foul", right? This time there was harm, and thus a foul. This is Rob Skiba, you can google him to find all kinds of quotes on various weird subjects. I had to google "Nephilim", in which he is a self proclaimed expert. To get a sense of this guy's thought process you should check out this short video on his flat earth model: https://fe2018.com/speakers/rob-skiba/ So Rob's understanding of physics and astronomy is a bit sketchy. Ok so what about his views on COVID, masks, and vaccines?
UPDATE 3 (10/12/21); Rob's Flat Earther fans have an update on Rob Skiba:
#coronavirus #BrianStaveley
Rob Skiba In Critical Condition Brian Staveley Thinks It's Fake
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Video costs $2.00, no way. Will see if it ends up somewhere else.*
LAST UPDATE (10/14/21): Rob Skiba has died of complications from COVID and he was an extreme anti-vaxxer. You'd think his community would get a wake up call and change their position on vaccines, however being christian flat-earthers I guess evidence and facts are beyond their grasp. "I absolutely HATE hospitals and their 'protocols'":
Here is a link to a video of some of more his hardcore compatriots discussing his death and their take on hospitals: https://rokfin.com/stream/9955/RIP--A-F ... wsource=cl
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Bet he didn't.I know when he reached those heavenly gates he heard, "Well done son. I'm so please(sic)"
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So true:
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What shape did Ron Skiba believe Heaven to be? Flat, spherical, ellipsoidal, or, like his brain, a nullity?