Fogbow

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:29 pm**

There is a bumper crop of Trump books, but one caught my eye: "Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers" by John Dean and Bob Altemeyer. Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, wrote a pre-Trump book that I found insightful, "The Authoritarians" (that you can download for free).

I'll leave my impression when I finish it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:59 pm**

DrConspiracy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:29 pm There is a bumper crop of Trump books, but one caught my eye: "Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers" by John Dean and Bob Altemeyer. Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, wrote a pre-Trump book that I found insightful, "The Authoritarians" (that you can download for free).

I'll leave my impression when I finish it.

You have likely found a winner. I will look for it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:26 pm**

I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:40 pm**

SuzieC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:26 pm I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?

Yep. He has written several books on authoritarians, at least one with Altemeyer. Well worth the reads.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:36 pm**

I’ve mentioned this before:

John Dean holds a special place in my heart. When I was at FireDogLake, we read his book ‘Conservatives Without a Conscience’ and he came online to do a book salon with us. What started out as an hour-long discussion turned into 2.5, until he absolutely had to go. We weren’t done, though.

We kept submitting questions after he left and he answered them all later that night. In all he spent about 5 hours with us dirty fucking hippies and our great questions. Emptywheel was there, as I remember.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:25 pm**

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:36 pm I’ve mentioned this before:

John Dean holds a special place in my heart. When I was at FireDogLake, we read his book ‘Conservatives Without a Conscience’ and he came online to do a book salon with us. What started out as an hour-long discussion turned into 2.5, until he absolutely had to go. We weren’t done, though.

We kept submitting questions after he left and he answered them all later that night. In all he spent about 5 hours with us dirty fucking hippies and our great questions. Emptywheel was there, as I remember.

Very cool!

I've read Conservatives Without a Conscience over and over.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:05 pm**

Boy, was he right. He said they’d keep coming and here they are.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:52 am**

SuzieC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:26 pm I read Altemeyer's summary of Trump's coup attempt. Excellent. In a nutshell, he concludes that Trump's coup failed because he is too stupid to plan an effective coup.

And we are talking about John Dean of Watergate fame, I assume?

Yes, it's that John Dean.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:55 am**

This is the SECOND EDITION of the book with post coup material. August 25, 2020.