The Hastert Rule, also known as the "majority of the majority" rule, is an informal governing principle used in the United States by Republican Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to maintain their speakerships[1] and limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House.[2] Under the doctrine, the Speaker will not allow a floor vote on a bill unless a majority of the majority party supports the bill.[3]
Under House rules, the Speaker schedules floor votes on pending legislation. The Hastert Rule says that the Speaker will not schedule a floor vote on any bill that does not have majority support within their party—even if the majority of the members of the House would vote to pass it. The rule keeps the minority party from passing bills with the assistance of a minority of majority party members. In the House, 218 votes are needed to pass a bill; if 200 Democrats are the minority and 235 Republicans are the majority, the Hastert Rule would not allow 200 Democrats and 100 Republicans together to pass a bill, because 100 Republican votes is short of a majority of the majority party, so the Speaker would not allow a vote to take place.[4]
The Hastert Rule is an informal rule and the Speaker is not bound by it; they may break it at their discretion. Speakers have at times broken the Hastert Rule and allowed votes to be scheduled on legislation that lacked majority support within the Speaker's own party. Dennis Hastert alleged the rule as being "kind of a misnomer" in that it "never really existed" as a rule.
Origins
The Hastert Rule's introduction is credited to former House Speaker Dennis Hastert; however, Newt Gingrich, who directly preceded Hastert as Speaker (1995–1999), followed the same rule.[5] The notion of the rule arose out of a debate in 2006 over whether Hastert should bring an immigration reform bill to the House floor after it had been passed by the Senate. “It was pretty obvious at that point that it didn’t have the votes to move it out, especially in the Judiciary Committee,” he said later. “It was pretty well stacked with people who weren’t willing to move.”[6]
Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:48 pm
So, Kevin. You saying you cant muster Five Republican votes to pass a clean debt ceiling raise?
Oh right. The Hastert rule. It's amazing how dedicated you are to the rule named after a past Republican speaker, who plead guilty to being a Child Molester.
Thr Hastert Rule?
The rule that the majority of Republicans have to support a bill to bring it to the floor, regardless of whether there is a bipartisan majority that would pass it.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
It's like learning about how pirates treat 'parley'. Only with 40% more piracy, based on analysis of morality.
But the sunshine aye shall light the sky,
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
The issue here is the razor-thin majority that elected McCarthy as speaker is piling the debt-ceiling bill with all of their pony wishes. Poison pills that the Senate won't agree to.
So McCarthy can either ride-and-die with the clowns who gave him the gavel, or compromise with the Democrats to get the legislation actually passed and be rewarded with a motion to vacate.
"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought. To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears… To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies." -Octavia E. Butler
Aaron Rupar @atrupar wrote:
Kevin McCarthy certainly has a way with words
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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:48 pm
So, Kevin. You saying you cant muster Five Republican votes to pass a clean debt ceiling raise?
Oh right. The Hastert rule. It's amazing how dedicated you are to the rule named after a past Republican speaker, who plead guilty to being a Child Molester.
To be fair to Hastert, he plead guilty to structuring banking transactions to circumvent currency reporting to the IRS to bribe those he molested to keep quite. By the time it was revealed the statute of limitations had passed for the assault...
"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:48 pm
So, Kevin. You saying you cant muster Five Republican votes to pass a clean debt ceiling raise?
Oh right. The Hastert rule. It's amazing how dedicated you are to the rule named after a past Republican speaker, who plead guilty to being a Child Molester.
To be fair to Hastert, he plead guilty to structuring banking transactions to circumvent currency reporting to the IRS to bribe those he molested to keep quite. By the time it was revealed the statute of limitations had passed for the assault...
Well that just makes all the difference in the world.
Supreme Commander, Imperial Illuminati Air Force
You don't have to consent, but I'm gonna tase you anyway.
- Said adoptive mothers are not real parents.
- Mocked Mattel for releasing a Barbie with Down syndrome.
- Passed a bill to kick 1M mothers and children off the WIC nutritional assistance program and 300K kids out of child care and Head Start.
I've noted here before I'm adopted. It was never a shameful secret, my older brother and I both knew. I had several friends urging me to find my biological mother but I wasn't interested. I hit the parent lottery and I knew it.
Stop me if you've heard this: My parents said I was a pretty well behaved little kid but the one time they had to punish me had to do with my little brother who was their biological (change of life) baby. He was acting the way little brothers tend to act and I said to him, "Mom and dad chose me, they got stuck with you." *
As for step-parents, I raised D's daughter from the age of 7. Her mother died of cancer when she was 5. Not saying I was the best stepmom, but she was the first kid in her family's generation to not only graduate HS, she graduated with a college scholarship. Neither her mother, maternal aunts or uncle graduated HS either. B wasn't too fond of me in HS. Daddy wanted to be her best friend so I had the role of evil stepmother.
Maybe somewhat OT, but I don't know where else to put it
ACOSTA: People listen to what you said & say it's your job to fix gun violence. Why not?
REP. BURCHETT: I was probably speaking more from a Christian perspective. We need revival in this country
ACOSTA: There's Christianity in other countries & they don't have mass shootings
@davidrlurie
Knoxville was.radically gerrymandered to force this embarrassment on the citizens of that city.
@davidrlurie
McCarthy's debt limit extortion bill was too liberal for this guy. He voted against it. If the bill called for arming all schoolteachers with ARs, that might have changed his vote.
Great question by Acosta. In response to the Congressman who said more adherence to Christianity would bring down rates of shootings, the US actually has some of the highest rates of both Christian belief AND mass shootings in the world. So why hasn't that worked yet?
I'm sure it's somethign to do with the fact that there's too many believers in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912 and not enough in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. I mean, it Emo Philips called it years ago, right?
But the sunshine aye shall light the sky,
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
Ben-Prime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:06 am
I'm sure it's somethign to do with the fact that there's too many believers in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912 and not enough in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. I mean, it Emo Philips called it years ago, right?
"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought. To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears… To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies." -Octavia E. Butler
There is a clear distinction in my mind between Christians like Northland and suranis, and these others. It’s no longer a religion, whatever they might protest, it’s a political block.
"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought. To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears… To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies." -Octavia E. Butler
I was raised Episcopalian. I had three different Catholic girlfriends in long-term relationships. I've known a ton of adult, responsible, not-insane Christians. I still have a lot of respect for the religion itself.
But I also drive up to see my pa quite often, which means I have to drive past the Church on Fire.
.
I don't think those are my kind of Christians.
The more I learn about this planet, the more improbable it all seems.
Foggy wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:48 am
I was raised Episcopalian. I had three different Catholic girlfriends in long-term relationships. I've known a ton of adult, responsible, not-insane Christians. I still have a lot of respect for the religion itself.
But I also drive up to see my pa quite often, which means I have to drive past the Church on Fire.
.
I don't think those are my kind of Christians.
My favorite is "Fullers Temple Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of The Americas" in the Fort Lauderdale area.
But the sunshine aye shall light the sky,
As round and round we run;
And the truth shall ever come uppermost,
And justice shall be done.
- Charles Mackay, "Eternal Justice"
