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SuzieC wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:19 pm https://lawandcrime.com/trump/just-cart ... zer-board/

FatDonnie filed this lawsuit today. Another lolsuit for our enjoyment.
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SuzieC wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:19 pm https://lawandcrime.com/trump/just-cart ... zer-board/

FatDonnie filed this lawsuit today. Another lolsuit for our enjoyment.
How does this make him a party to a third parties decisionmaking :think: :confuzzled:
“By ratifying the 2018 prizes awarded to The New York Times and The Washington Post, the Board and its individual members are participating in and perpetuating the absurdly false and defamatory narrative contrived by the President’s political opponents: that he and his campaign somehow colluded with Vladimir Putin and the Russian government to gain advantage in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and thereafter maintained some nefarious connection with Russian elements during the presidential transition and Trump administration (the ‘Russia Collusion Hoax’),” his attorneys R. Quincy Bird and Jeremy D. Bailie wrote.
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northland10 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:28 pm
SuzieC wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:19 pm https://lawandcrime.com/trump/just-cart ... zer-board/

FatDonnie filed this lawsuit today. Another lolsuit for our enjoyment.
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Dear Sir,

I wish to inform you that someone is filing stupid lawsuits in your law firm's name.

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Trump vows ‘free speech’ reform of government, universities, media, tech firms if elected in 2024

PUBLISHED THU, DEC 15 20224:16 PM ESTUPDATED THU, DEC 15 20226:53 PM EST
Kevin Breuninger

KEY POINTS
  • Donald Trump on Thursday announced an aggressive and ambitious plan to undo what he characterized as the suppression of free speech in the U.S. if he is elected president in 2024.
    Trump promised to target government agencies and employees, universities and tech companies with executive orders and policies aimed at their purported censorship of speech and ideas.
    “The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed and it must happen immediately,” said the Republican, who is prone to linguistic hyperbole and over-promising when announcing plans.
Former President Donald Trump on Thursday announced a series of aggressive and ambitious proposals to undo what he characterized as the suppression of free speech in the United States if he is elected president in 2024.

Trump, who lost his White House reelection bid in 2020, promised in a videotaped address that he would target government agencies and employees, universities and tech companies with a series of executive orders and policies aimed at their purported censorship of speech and ideas.

Among other things, Trump vowed to “ban federal money from being used to label domestic speech as ‘mis-’ or ‘dis-information,’” including federal subsidies and student loan support for universities.

“The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed and it must happen immediately,” said the Republican, who is prone to linguistic hyperbole and over-promising when announcing plans.

“When I’m president, this whole rotten system of censorship and information control will be ripped out of the system at large. There won’t be anything left,” he said.

Trump and other right-wing figures have for years claimed they are the victims of efforts to limit their speech by purported “deep-state” actors, mainstream media outlets and social media companies.

CEO Elon Musk called the “Twitter files” to support claims that the company’s prior management handled content moderation in a way that was biased against conservatives. Twitter released the internal communications to a handful of conservative writers, who published a series of tweets detailing the social media company’s decision before the 2020 election to temporarily suppress a New York Post story about the contents of a laptop owned by Hunter Biden, son of President Joe Biden.

Musk has even gone so far as to say that Twitter, which he bought in October, interfered with U.S. elections. Twitter didn’t respond to requests for the records from CNBC and The New York Times.



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He’s not going to make it past the primary. This article from the Christmas Eve edition of the Washington Post says that a crowded field in the primary is an advantage to Trump, but I don’t think so. IIRC, in 2016 a lot of Republicans signaled they would vote for someone else, but voted for Trump. I think this time around the inverse might be true. I hope so, anyway.
Republicans making moves toward entering 2024 primary against Trump

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis just restarted his Google and Facebook ads, targeting a national audience ahead of a state legislative session he believes will highlight causes that will help him in a presidential primary, according to a Republican consultant familiar with his operation.

Former secretary of state Mike Pompeo’s team has reached out to potential staff in early primary states. Former vice president Mike Pence is looking to add fundraising aides. And Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson is talking with donors and gauging his ability to fund a campaign through an “endurance race.”

Potential Republican rivals to Donald Trump are ramping up their 2024 maneuverings, reflecting a growing sense in the party that the former president is far from the inevitable nominee after a midterm election in which he was blamed for many of the party’s woes. “You never know when that early front-runner is going to stumble,” said Hutchinson, who is urging the party to move on from Trump and said it’s too soon to say who else will catch on.

So far, Trump is the only major candidate who has officially announced his 2024 bid. But both publicly and behind the scenes, major Republican figures are laying the foundations for potential campaigns, according to a review of their activities and interviews with people familiar with the planning, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal strategy.

Many operatives said they see benefits to sitting back and methodically preparing while Trump deals with growing problems. The former president faces several investigations; criticism of his associations, including a widely condemned dinner he had with antisemites; and growing calls in the party to go in a new direction.

“Trump is certainly not who he used to be,” said Mike Dennehy, a longtime GOP consultant in New Hampshire.

While he was first out of the gate, Trump has not generated overwhelming enthusiasm for his candidacy, with polls showing he is not unstoppable, many prominent Republicans declining to endorse him, and many others becoming more outspoken in their criticism of him. Trump has not held a campaign rally since announcing his campaign at his Mar-a-Lago estate in mid-November. A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to a request for comment.

The coming months will be critical for rivals working to staff up, build their profiles in key states and finance a grueling campaign, strategists said. DeSantis is the most talked-about potential candidate, but the Florida governor has yet to announce a run or rule it out.

Numerous potential candidates have said they will make a decision on 2024 this winter or spring, and quasi-campaign events are expected to ramp up quickly after the holidays, as they flock to early states for meet-and-greets and fundraiser Lincoln Day dinners.

Potential contenders are well into laying groundwork for campaigns, as more than a dozen have signaled interest or have declined to rule out a run amid speculation. Yet it’s unclear how many will actually take the plunge. A crowded field could play to Trump’s advantage, as it did in 2016 when the rest of the party did not unite around a single alternative as Trump won key early contests with a plurality of the vote.

“We figured by the first quarter next year, we need to be hard at it if we’re going to do it,” said Pompeo in a recent Fox News interview. Pompeo’s political action committee did not respond to a request for comment.

Nikki Haley, the U.N. ambassador under Trump, said at a recent event that she will take the holidays to evaluate whether to run. Pence will have his full family together in Indianapolis for the holidays for the first time in three years as he weighs his options, an aide said.
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The former vice president, who is at odds with Trump and his allies over his refusal to attempt to overturn the 2020 election loss, will continue his book tour next month with visits to megachurches, the aide said, starting Jan. 15 with First Baptist Church of Dallas and its pastor, Robert Jeffress, a longtime evangelical ally of Trump.

Jeffress declined to immediately endorse Trump when he announced a third White House bid in November, even as the pastor called him a “great president” — one of many signals that Trump, while still formidable, has hardly consolidated the party’s support.

Trump leads in many 2024 polls, but DeSantis has started to outpace him in some head-to-head surveys, and congressional allies are not rushing to endorse the former president. Former members of Trump’s administration are trying to stake claims to key parts of his coalition, with Pence appealing heavily to the religious right and centering his opposition to abortion.

In some states, governors are preparing for legislative sessions early next year that could provide new platforms for a presidential pitch. In Florida, where new GOP supermajorities will give DeSantis even more power to enact his agenda, Republicans expect to tackle abortion, data privacy and “constitutional carry” for firearms, according to a Tallahassee lobbyist familiar with the plans, as well as the use of “environmental, social and governance” (ESG) criteria in investing — a practice increasingly vilified on the right as liberal excess. State officials have started to preview some of that agenda.

DeSantis’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

DeSantis is fresh off a resounding reelection win while the rest of his party fell short of making the big gains it had hoped for in the midterms. He has waged high-profile legislative battles over the past two years — pushing to curtail coronavirus vaccine mandates; banning classroom discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity for younger elementary school students; and stripping Disney of its special tax status in Florida after the company criticized DeSantis’s policies, among other things.

The coming session is expected to continue clashes with corporations, with Republicans trying again to pass a DeSantis-championed bill on the unauthorized use of consumer data and taking aim at ESG by setting new rules for the investment of state funds. Florida officials recently said they would pull state assets from ESG proponent BlackRock, a major asset-management firm, which denounced the move as political.

Florida’s current 15-week ban on abortion is less restrictive than many other Republican-controlled states’ policies, and DeSantis has been vague in public about what further restrictions on abortion he would support — a potential vulnerability in a GOP primary. At a news conference this month, however, DeSantis expressed openness to a “heartbeat bill” ban at roughly six weeks of pregnancy.

While Trump has drawn plenty of direct and implicit criticism from governors, their allies and others who might enter the race, some are also looking to differentiate themselves from DeSantis. One adviser to South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem contrasted her with DeSantis while noting that, late last month, Noem became the first governor to ban the social media app TikTok on state devices while citing national security concerns. Other states soon followed.
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The Noem adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share private planning, said the governor expects to visit Iowa early next year. Ian Fury, a spokesman for Noem, said she has invitations to numerous Lincoln dinners coming up, including in Iowa, but has not yet committed. She believes the message that won her reelection in November “should be shared with the rest of the country,” Fury said.

In Virginia, Gov. Glenn Youngkin — who shot to stardom last year while flipping the state — has proposed tax cuts for residents and corporations that could run up against opposition in the Democratic-controlled state Senate, though the state legislature approved $4 billion in tax cuts earlier this year. Virginia’s legislative session, which starts in mid-January, could give the governor more achievements to run on.
The wealthy former executive of a private equity investment firm faces less pressure to raise money ahead of a potential 2024 bid — but Youngkin has also been courting donors and this fall held a retreat that some involved described as a way to gauge 2024 support.

Youngkin said at the event that he did not know what would happen but invited donors to go on a “journey” with him, according to an attendee who took note of the open-ended language.

In New Hampshire, Gov. Chris Sununu has echoed worries about a repeat of 2016, when a crowded field split the vote and helped hand Trump the nomination and eventually the presidency. But he also has not ruled out a run of his own. Despite declaring in a recent CNN interview that he is focused on New Hampshire, Sununu recently launched Facebook ads targeted to Iowa and South Carolina, as first reported by FWIW News, which tracks online ads closely.

FWIW News spotted two other candidates restarting their Facebook ads recently: DeSantis and Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.), both fresh off winning reelection. Scott ran ads in swing states this year, released a book and spoke this fall at a Republican Jewish Coalition meeting that served as a showcase of potential 2024 candidates.

In Maryland, term-limited Gov. Larry Hogan amped up his fundraising late last month with an event that promoted a federal political action committee and raised more than $1.2 million. He has said he will not announce his plans until he leaves office early next year.

Another prominent governor discussed as a possible contender, Greg Abbott of Texas, has done little to show movement toward a presidential run this cycle. New Hampshire-based GOP consultant Dave Carney, who advises Abbott, said the governor is focused on the southern border and the coming legislative session and “will take time to thoughtfully look at what the options are” in June, after the session ends.

Other potential candidates include Sen. Rick Scott (Fla.), former New Jersey governor Chris Christie — who once chaired Trump’s transition team but now sharply criticizes the former president — and Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.), the runner-up for the GOP nomination in 2016.
“There’s a lot of good people that are considering the race,” said Hutchinson, the Arkansas governor, who said he stands for taking “the theatrics” out of governing. “Is my message unique? Is my skill set and tone and leadership what is right for America at this particular time?”
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I hate to say this, but trump's competition is playing it smart.
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Let the former guy swear bullets while he observes the many potential candidates to counter. They will drastically drain his campaign funds when he needs to attack each one.
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Too also: It actually is unusual for a candidate to officially declare before June. So anyone not declaring now is being typical.

Of course, now is the primary before the primaries (before the primaries): wooing patrons to pay for the folly.
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Something that I am chewing on:

After the release of the Jan. 6 Commission's findings last week, a journalist asked 6-8 lawyers/law professor types what they thought about potential criminal charges against tfg and how they thought the trials would go.

Two of them brought up that a possible defense that tfg might implement would be the old "state of mind" defense. It would be up to his defense to hammer home that his state of mind was such that he did not think that he was doing anything criminal. (Guess sorta like ole Ammo and his Pals up in Malheur.)

If we ignore whether the jury buys this putative defense or not, it seems to me that by advancing this argument in his criminal trials, that he is admitting that he is unfit for office. Yes/no?
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Yeah, but I wish we could trust the voters more. :roll:
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humblescribe wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:27 pmIt would be up to his defense to hammer home that his state of mind was such that he did not think that he was doing anything criminal.
People have noted the Jan. 6 committee's final report noted his tweet saying (roughly), "Pence knew what he should have done." Which suggests a certain criminal intent, i.e., knowing he was pressuring Pence to do something not authorized by the Electoral Count Act. This is especially so when coupled with the evidence of various people telling him pre-Jan. 6 that Eastman and his elk's plots were just bunk illegality.
If we ignore whether the jury buys this putative defense or not, it seems to me that by advancing this argument in his criminal trials, that he is admitting that he is unfit for office. Yes/no?
No; it won't move anyone's needle at this point. Those already inclined to vote for him will parrot his line that the ECA did authorize Pence to reject electoral votes.
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bob wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:09 pm Too also: It actually is unusual for a candidate to officially declare before June. So anyone not declaring now is being typical.

Of course, now is the primary before the primaries (before the primaries): wooing patrons to pay for the folly.
A pre-premature declaration? :biggrin:
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:26 am
bob wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:09 pm Too also: It actually is unusual for a candidate to officially declare before June. So anyone not declaring now is being typical.

Of course, now is the primary before the primaries (before the primaries): wooing patrons to pay for the folly.
A pre-premature declaration? :biggrin:
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Mikey just threw his fedora into the ring, premature declaration or not. I wonder if he received permission from Mother.
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humblescribe wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:03 pm Mikey just threw his fedora into the ring, premature declaration or not. I wonder if he received permission from Mother.
Nope.
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Oh, of course it's fake news. That makes perfect sense and is totally metaphysically absurd, man. I am not living in a sane Universe, but I can enjoy the surrealism while I can still pretend I'm breathing air.

If there was just one little thing missing from the week between Christmas and New Year's in the year of our lord 2022, it was a fake story that Mike Pence had filed paperwork to run for president.

Yep. :rockon:

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sugar magnolia wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:05 pm
humblescribe wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:03 pm Mikey just threw his fedora into the ring, premature declaration or not. I wonder if he received permission from Mother.
Nope.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 955343002/
Damn! Sucked into the vortex of fake news. :doh:

I'ma gonna dust off my vinyl of The Who: "Won't Get Fooled Again."

Thank you, SM, for pointing out my gullibility. :kiss:
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humblescribe wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:00 pm I'ma gonna dust off my vinyl of The Who: "Won't Get Fooled Again."
I had Alexa play that yesterday morning, and I still like it.

Then I told her to play Going Mobile.



WHAT? I was just about to start a 6 hour road trip! :towel:
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Trump promotes article encouraging him to run as third-party candidate if GOP doesn't nominate him

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December 28, 2022

Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday promoted an editorial suggesting that he run as a third-party candidate if the Republican Party does not make him its 2024 presidential nominee.

On his Truth Social website, Trump posted a link to an editorial from MAGA publication American Greatness in which author Dan Gelernter compared Trump to the late President Teddy Roosevelt, whose unsuccessful third-party bid in 1912 handed the White House to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

Gelernter concedes that Trump running as a third-party candidate in 2024 would likely also hand Democrats the White House, but he suggests it would be worth it to teach the Republican Party a lesson about defying its base.

"I have no intention of supporting a Republican Party that manifestly contravenes the desires of its voters," he writes. "The RNC can pretend Trump isn’t loved by the base anymore, that he doesn’t have packed rallies everywhere he goes. But I’m not buying it: Talk to Republican voters anywhere outside the Beltway, and it is obvious that he is admired and even loved by those who consider themselves 'ordinary' Americans."




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That’s right!

Teach those RINOs a lesson!!!
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