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sugar magnolia wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:45 pm
RTH10260 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:51 am Like the fish will now find refuge and shelter near windfarms and swim nowhere else :cantlook: :brickwallsmall:

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It's a choice between energy production and fish, and there's even a question? I believe I'd have to go with energy.
For one, windfarms don't cover the whole coastline but preferred regions with known sustained wind velocities. Windfarms are patches far apart. Coastal local fishery can move just fine around the windfarms. Windfarms are limited on how far they can operate offshore (some sources mention like 20 miles) and to the rim of the continental shelf at most. Highsea fishing operates further out on the open seas. But that's the other issue the British are stuck with since Brexit: they cannot get fishing quotas and operate in the national waters of other EU states, a real limitation in the North Sea.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_powe ... ed_Kingdom
https://www.evwind.es/2021/03/24/buildi ... e-uk/79994
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:30 pm Not for the British tourist to the EU :lol:
New Roaming rules for travellers in the EU: “Roam like at home” for 10 more years

Tomorrow, 1 July 2022, the new improved Roaming regulation enters into force. It extends “Roam-like-at-home” until 2032 – the scheme thanks to which travellers in the EU and the EEA can call, text and surf abroad without extra charges. The new rules will also bring about significant benefits for EU businesses and citizens, who will enjoy a better roaming experience, with the same quality of mobile service abroad as they have at home. The new rules also improve access to emergency communications across the EU and guarantee clear information about services that may be subject to extra charges.

How roaming charges will hit travellers between the UK and EU in 2022
Trips between Europe and the UK and vice versa may well become more expensive for many travellers in 2022 as UK mobile operators bring back roaming charges. However there is some good news for all EU residents.

Published: 5 January 2022 11:17 CET
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UK companies reintroducing roaming charges this year

And now the bad news for travellers to the EU from the UK

Customers of UK mobile phone operators face higher fees when travelling in Europe this year, as some companies are bringing back roaming charges for calls, text messages and data downloaded during temporary stays in the EU.

This is one of the many consequences of the UK withdrawal from the European Union. Because of Brexit, the UK is no longer part of the EU’s “roam like at home” initiative which was designed to avoid shocking bills after holidays or business trips abroad.



https://www.thelocal.com/20220105/how-r ... u-in-2022/
This is exactly why my personal phone in the UK uses an O2 sim, since they are the one major network that doesn't hit with roaming charges on the continent by default.
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It was long time in the making. The UK worked on this even before their 2016 vote to leave the EU :lol:
What Brits Must Know About EU’s €7 Entry Authorization That Becomes Effective on May 2023

June 4, 2022

While the majority of the European Union and Schengen Area member states have removed Coronavirus-related entry measures, it is expected that by next year, all restrictions of this nature will be abolished for travellers.

However, less than a year from now, British nationals will face a new entry requirement in order to be able to enter the EU and Schengen countries.

British travellers will be obliged to apply for a document called ETIAS, which stands for the European Travel and Information Authorization, before taking a trip to the EU and Schengen Area countries, Ireland aside.

Recently, Brits have been ‘bombarded’ with news regarding this document, many British tabloids calling it a visa, an ‘entry fee for Europe’, a ‘strict requirement’ and more, SchengenVisaInfo.com reports.

Following, we are answering some of the most frequent questions asked by British nationals regarding the ETIAS.

Is ETIAS for Britons a Visa?

No, ETIAS is not a visa. It is a travel authorization for which a British national can apply very quickly and completely online. Applying for a visa means collecting a load of documents, attending an interview at an EU/Schengen embassy or consulate, and paying a hefty fee, and this is not the case for ETIAS.

UK nationals already have to apply for a similar travel authorization when travelling to the United States, which is known as the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA).




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once again
Labour shortages leave tonnes of food unpicked on British farms
A lack of seasonal workers, triggered by Brexit and then the invasion of Ukraine, has cost farmers hundreds of thousands of pounds in dead crops.

Paul Kelso Business correspondent
Monday 4 July 2022 22:41, UK

Labour shortages on British farms have left tonnes of food unpicked, costing millions of pounds and pushing food inflation as high as 20% at the farm gate, the agriculture industry has told Sky News.

Farmers say this year's harvest has been hit by a shortfall in the overall number of seasonal worker visas granted by the Home Office, delays in processing those visas and a collapse in the number of Ukrainian workers coming to the UK after the Russian invasion.

Last year more than 60% of workers on seasonal visas were from Ukraine and 8% from Russia. That number has greatly reduced as adult Ukrainian men are unable to leave the country.

Sky News has also spoken to Russians who say their visa applications have been cancelled without explanation by recruitment agencies, despite there being no explicit ban on Russians working in the UK.




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Scottish hospitality businesses not able to replace staff that used to come from the EU.
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Post-Brexit visa rules a ‘disaster’ for arts, says Edinburgh festival director
Fergus Linehan calls for visa-free travel for British artists to solve logistical problems of touring

Severin Carrell Scotland editor
Sun 10 Jul 2022 14.27 BST

The outgoing director of the Edinburgh International festival has called for the UK’s visa and exports rules to be greatly simplified to allow musicians and artists to travel overseas far more smoothly.

Fergus Linehan, who directs his last international festival next month, said the UK’s post-Brexit visa rules had been a “disaster” for the arts and for artists by stifling collaboration and making it harder for British artists to tour abroad.

In an interview with the Guardian, he urged the UK government to introduce visa-free travel for artists and solve the huge logistical problems affecting companies importing touring equipment into the UK.

He said it was “much more difficult” for Britons to get visas to work abroad than it was for overseas artists to visit the UK, and that freight costs were “crazy just now”. Europeans who once might have applied for British arts jobs were also more hesitant about visas and their right to stay, particularly if they had families, he said.

“Clearly, when musicians go to perform [in another country], they’re not going to set up home. That’s not what it’s about. So visa-free movement for people,” Linehan said. “We’re part of an ecosystem. The idea of discouraging collaboration is a disaster in our industry.

“If there was just one thing, a silver bullet, I would say it would be that.”




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about the pub chain whose owner was pushing Brexit, then complained he could not get his foreigner workforce back
Wetherspoon’s warns of £30m loss as older drinkers stay at home
Sales of draught ales, ciders and lagers drop 8%, with analysts citing customers’ Covid nervousness

Sarah Butler
Wed 13 Jul 2022 12.44 BST

The pub chain JD Wetherspoon has warned of bigger-than-expected annual losses amid rising staff pay and a slow recovery in bar trade as older drinkers continue to stay at home and sales of pints slump.

The group said it was anticipating losses of about £30m for the year to the end of July after investing to attract and retain workers, and ramping up spending on the wider business, including on repairs and marketing.

Underlying sales rose only 0.4% in the 11 weeks to 10 July as sales of draught ales, ciders and lagers – traditionally the pub chain’s biggest-selling lines – dropped 8%, offsetting a boom in sales of cocktails and hotel stays.

Analysts said the lack of demand for pints reflected the greater impact of inflation on older drinkers as well as their nervousness about returning to social activities after the pandemic lockdowns.
I guess that with rising living costs (including taxes) the budget for meals and drinks outside of home will be limited too.
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Well that's just the point. He's not supposed to hire inexpensive foreign workers. He is supposed to raise wages enough to attract British employees. ;)
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British expats living in the EU will not be happy how their government handled the departure and forgot them
EU red tape forces expats to close bank and Premium Bond accounts
Thousands of account closures loom as banks set new deadlines

Jessica Beard
12 July 2022 • 7:00am

Thousands of British expats could be stripped of their UK bank account by the end of the year, which could also mean they are barred from Premium Bond prizes.

High-street banks, including Barclays, have written to British customers who live abroad warning their accounts will be automatically wound down.

Expats also stand to lose their Premium Bond accounts as a result, which in many cases they have held for decades.

National Savings & Investments has written to warn savers that they will be forced to withdraw their money unless they have a UK bank or building society account in their name.

Since Brexit, “passporting” rules that allow financial institutions to provide services across the EU have ended.

Many expats could be left without the bank account they may have used for decades.This could affect income from pensions and rental properties but also leave them failing to make vital payments and direct debits.





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/b ... -accounts/
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Does anyone admit to having voted for Brexit now?
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Sure, he is over there with the one guy who voted for Nixon.
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The Sun wrote:FARM-AGEDDON Fish and chips will surge in price ‘because of offshore wind farms’
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:43 pm For one, windfarms don't cover the whole coastline but preferred regions with known sustained wind velocities. Windfarms are patches far apart. Coastal local fishery can move just fine around the windfarms. Windfarms are limited on how far they can operate offshore (some sources mention like 20 miles) and to the rim of the continental shelf at most. Highsea fishing operates further out on the open seas. But that's the other issue the British are stuck with since Brexit: they cannot get fishing quotas and operate in the national waters of other EU states, a real limitation in the North Sea.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_o ... ed_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_powe ... ed_Kingdom
https://www.evwind.es/2021/03/24/buildi ... e-uk/79994
Not to mention the fish in 'fish and chips' are imported, apparently mostly from Russia. You don't get a lot of cod in UK waters.
https://www.seafish.org/about-us/news-b ... ply-chain/

Honestly, Brexit is like the Mad Hatter's Tea party, when the Hatter announces he wants a clean cup and demands everyone move round one seat. He's happy, the hare goes along because he's stupid and gets screwed, the doremouse goes along because he's asleep. Alice is ignored. Why they didn't say "Just grab the next place setting" is a mystery.

ETA You do get herring in UK waters, so it's a green light for kippers!
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Azastan wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:30 pm Does anyone admit to having voted for Brexit now?
Only the ones who thought the leopard wouldn't eat their particular faces.
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The costly failures of implementing Boris Jonson's Brext deal
Portsmouth’s £25m border post stands empty after minister’s imports U-turn
At least £450m of taxpayers’ money has been spent on facilities to handle post-Brexit checks, now delayed

Joanna Partridge
Tue 5 Jul 2022 20.20 BST

Next to the container terminal at Portsmouth International Port, just a few hundred metres from the water’s edge, stands a new hi-tech border control post.

Built over the past 18 months at a cost of £25m, a cost shared by the taxpayer and the port’s owner, Portsmouth city council, the high-specification facility should be in its inaugural week of use, handling post-Brexit checks on imports of animal, plant and forestry products arriving from the EU.

The building stands empty and silent, however, following the government’s decision in April to delay, probably for good, the introduction of physical inspections of fresh meat, fruit, vegetables and plants from the EU.

The facility was completed before the government’s previous and much-delayed start date of 1 July for the new border measures.

The government is now working on a new operating model for imports – due to be published in the autumn and come into effect at the end of 2023 – following the announcement by the Brexit opportunities minister, Jacob Rees-Mogg, at the end of April that all checks and paperwork at the border would be digitised.

The decision has left ports such as Portsmouth counting the cost and wondering what to do with their impressive but redundant multimillion-pound white elephants.

The British Ports Association (BPA), a lobby group for the industry, calculates that at least £450m of taxpayers’ money has been spent on these now mostly unwanted new border control facilities. This includes the £200m government fund for buildings at ports, as well as an estimated £250m spent by the government on building 10 inland border facilities, in places such as Dover and Holyhead where there is not space for a checkpoint next to the terminal. These buildings will be difficult to repurpose.



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To note that thevUK is by WTO rules bound to implement import checks and cash in on tariffs, not discriminate against other countries by not assessing tariffs on EU goods. Smugglers United will thank Boris while they have the chance to cover the island with goods not conforming to the British standards.
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Pro-Brexit UK regions more dependent on EU for exports, report finds
Research also reveals EU remains ‘overwhelmingly dominant’ destination for UK manufacturing exports

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent
Mon 18 Jul 2022 00.23 BST

Brexit-supporting regions in the UK are becoming increasingly dependent on the EU for their manufacturing exports, research by the trade body Make UK has found.

The report, based on quarterly manufacturing outlook data measuring performance in output, orders, employment and investment intentions, also found the EU remains the “overwhelmingly dominant” destination for UK manufacturing exports.

Analysis of 2021 data by the business advisory firm BDO shows that 49% of British exports go to the 27-nation bloc.

Northern Ireland, which voted against Brexit but has access to the single market courtesy of the Northern Ireland protocol, is most heavily reliant on the EU, with 63% of all exports going across the border to the Republic of Ireland and the continent.

Some of the UK regions that voted for Brexit registered the biggest increases in the share of their manufacturing exports that went to the EU.

For Wales, the figure increased from 58% to 60% between 2020 and 2021, north-east England reported a rise from 56% to 58%, the east Midlands was up from 48% to 51% and the east of England rose from 46% to 48%.

Wales is second most reliant on the EU for exports of goods overall, followed by north-east England and Yorkshire and Humber.

“Despite the talk of global Britain, history shows that geography is always the main determinant of trade,” said Verity Davidge, the director of policy at Make UK.



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RTH10260 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:03 pm
Wales is second most reliant on the EU for exports of goods overall, followed by north-east England and Yorkshire and Humber.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... port-finds
I wasn't sure what "Humber" was, other than an estuary/river. Apparently, the reference was to the statistical region of "Yorkshire and the Humber." (A name not unlike "Benny & the Jets.") I liked it better when they called it "Humberside."
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Minister admits: USA doesn’t want to negotiate a free-trade deal with the UK
In news that will come as a surprise to no one, another Brexit promise has just gone up in flames.

Jack Peat
2022-07-18 11:41

The Secretary of State for International Trade has admitted there is no appetite for a free-trade deal in the USA until at least after the midterms in a shocking blow to the Conservative’s post-Brexit pledges.

Appearing on LBC with Nick Ferrari, Anne-Marie Trevelyan said the government has been forced to pursue state-by-state opportunities as hopes for a wider deal are slashed.

The UK signed its first trade agreement with Indiana in May as officials looked to strike agreements with about 20 states.

But progress on a UK-US trade deal has been slow, with many casting doubts over whether it will ever happen.




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Slightly unusual in diplomacy that a minister of a foreign government contracts with particular states within another nation :brickwallsmall:
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jcolvin2 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:14 pm
RTH10260 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:03 pm
Wales is second most reliant on the EU for exports of goods overall, followed by north-east England and Yorkshire and Humber.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... port-finds
I wasn't sure what "Humber" was, other than an estuary/river. Apparently, the reference was to the statistical region of "Yorkshire and the Humber." (A name not unlike "Benny & the Jets.") I liked it better when they called it "Humberside."
You sure this isn't it?

Wikipedia: Humber Limited
Historic Car Brands: Humber
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keith wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:48 am You sure this isn't it?

Wikipedia: Humber Limited
Historic Car Brands: Humber
The only reference I can recall to the Humber automobile was in a song by the Who called One at a Time, which was on their 1982 album, It's Hard. It was not terribly memorable, as it was written by bassist John Entwistle, whose songs paled by comparison to those penned by Pete Townshend.
Call her up right away
You've got her number
And I promise not to pick up the phone
You can pick her up in your clapped out Humber
I just hope it can get you home
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In February 1964 the owners of the minority holdings in Humber Limited (and Tilling-Stevens and Singer Motors) sold their holdings to Rootes Motors Limited taking in exchange shares in Rootes Motors. Humber and its two subsidiaries now became wholly owned subsidiaries of Rootes Motors Limited.[26]

A last major activity of, by then, Lord Rootes, was to open sale negotiations with Chrysler Corporation. He died in December 1964. Chrysler took control in 1967.[24]

The last of the traditional large Humbers, the series VA Super Snipe (fitted with twin Stromberg CD 100 Carburettors) were sold in 1968, when Chrysler ended production. Several V8 models had been in pre-production at this time, but were never publicly sold. Several of these test examples survive today.

Humber's and Rootes' last new car was the second generation of Humber Sceptre, a variant of their Rootes Arrow model. The marque was shelved in 1976 when all Hillmans became badged Chryslers.

The Hillman Hunter (another Arrow model) badged Chrysler until production ceased in 1979 when Chrysler's European division was sold to Peugeot and the marque renamed Talbot. The Talbot marque was abandoned at the end of 1986 on passenger cars, although it was continued on vans for six years afterwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Limited

At the big Chrysler car show this past weekend, there was a rootes-built Plymouth Arrow
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Holiday traffic stuck in the British port of Dover amidst new passport control procedures. And the French authorities for whatever reason are operating only with half of possible staffing.


but remember also too this fun fact (it has not been rectified):
Dover awarded only £33,000 for extra passport kiosks
The port had requested £33 million for new facilities to handle customs requirements after the Brexit transition period ends

Alan Tovey,
17 December 2020 • 12:10am

Dover's request for £33 million to ­create extra passport booths post-Brexit has been snubbed with the Government awarding the port just £33,000 instead.

The amount was requested from the £200 million Port Infrastructure Fund for new facilities to handle customs requirements after the Brexit transition period ends.

However, the much smaller award could result in long delays at the port for passengers struggling to get through border controls.

Dover applied for £33 million to ­double the number of French government passport booths from five to 10 in anticipation of more rigorous requirements for entering the country.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... rt-kiosks/
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Ahem - blaming the French will not entice them to speed things up. Nor will threats to suspend the exit agreement help.
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