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For those who aren't aware of how widely read the article above will be ... the Metro is a free morning paper that literally gets given away in stacks on every train line, tube line, and bus line in at the greater London metropolitan area.

It's my morning read on the work commute into the Embassy when I feel like my phone can stay in my pocket.
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MEPs endorse Brexit infringements bill

By Benjamin Fox | EURACTIV.com
11 Oct 2022

MEPs on Monday (10 October) backed legislation allowing the EU to impose sanctions on the UK should London breach the terms of its Withdrawal Agreement and Trade and Cooperation Agreement with the bloc.

Lawmakers on the European Parliament’s Trade, Foreign Affairs and Constitutional Affairs Committee voted by 75 MEPs voted in favour, none against and six abstentions to adopt proposals by the European Commission that would allow the EU executive to impose restrictions on trade, investment or other activities if the UK was to breach certain agreed trading conditions.

A final plenary vote on the file will take place in November, with lawmakers hoping to finalise the law by early 2023.

The principal disagreement between the EU and the UK has been over the implementation of the Northern Ireland protocol, which imposed customs checks on goods travelling from Britain to the island of Ireland.

The UK has refused to implement customs checks, and the Westminster parliament is currently scrutinising a bill that would allow Liz Truss’s government to override the terms of the protocol unilaterally.

The EU began infringement proceedings against the UK over the planned bill, while London has already started its own consultations on the Commission’s block on UK membership of the Horizon Europe research and development programme.

“It goes without saying that we certainly would prefer if trade enforcement mechanisms are not needed. However, with the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill, the UK Government has shown its willingness to break international law. So, it is necessary to ensure that the EU can protect itselfm” said Seán Kelly, the lead negotiator on the proposals for the Trade Committee.

He added that “from an Irish perspective, this Regulation is also essential to protect the all-Ireland economy.”




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Sadly, If anything the above video is generally overly optimistic about the long term effects of Brexit; the impacts have only just begun.
I think the only point that is absolutely correct is that pro-Brexit politicians etc will blame anything (else) they can for the slowly increasing decline of the UK economy. As with all decisions it is impossible to state as absolute facts the effects that would not have been incurred had the decision not be made. It is probably fair to say that the current stresses on European and global economies will affect the policies of other governments and exacerbate any/all problems.
Just as with climate change, and other issues, it is future generations that will pay the full price.
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And………
Goodbye Liz Truss…..

Amazing that she resigned as there really wasn’t a mechanism to remove her in the accelerated manner she deserved.

Really great news.
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Danraft wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:46 am And………
Goodbye Liz Truss…..
Amazing that she resigned as there really wasn’t a mechanism to remove her in the accelerated manner she deserved.

Really great news.
Do many countries have such a mechanism? It's in bizarre contrast to what happened in 1975 Australian constitutional crisis when the Governor-General (i.e. the Queen's representative) dismissed the Prime Minister and appointed instead the Leader of the Opposition.

I suspect King Charles theoretically has that power in the UK but he would face problems of he tried to exercise it – the UK claims to have an "unwritten constitution" which probably shares the key property of an unwritten contract: it's not worth the paper it's not written on.
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Good riddance.
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In my wayward youth, a truss was some kinda like, underpants you had to wear if'n you got kicked in the balls really, really hard. I think that's what it was, I never actually saw one, but I heard about such things. :?

This is not only off-topic, it's disgusting, and it's still more fun to read about than the other Truss. :towel:
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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It has that hernia-adjacent meaning in BrE and AmE and probably all varieties of English. It is also a structural engineering term, loosely for a frame whose members act through axial forces, with the joints being effectively pinned (free to rotate, so not carrying bending moments). Presumably the meanings are related, but I haven't checked.
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EU media and leaders blame Brexit for UK political ‘insanity’ as Truss quits
Observers suggest PM’s failure could spell end of ‘wishful thinking’ of a sovereign Britain going its own way

Jon Henley Europe correspondent
Thu 20 Oct 2022 16.41 BST

Six years on from the Brexit referendum, continental observers have become used to Westminster meltdowns – but many see in the latest cataclysm the inevitable finale of a project that was always divorced from reality.

“Listened to, perhaps; understood, not really,” said Le Monde of Liz Truss on the news of her resignation. “A terrible orator who could do little more than repeat ‘growth, growth, growth’, seemingly impervious to criticism … she was rejected by both the public and her own party.”

Political leaders politely expressed their regrets. Arriving at an EU summit in Brussels, Emmanuel Macron said it was important that Britain rediscovered “political stability very quickly” in the context of the war in Ukraine. Describing the UK as a friend, the French president added he was “always sad to lose a colleague”.

Ireland’s taoiseach, Micheál Martin, expressed personal sympathy for Truss during what he described as “a very difficult time” for the prime minister – although he, too, pointed a finger at Brexit.

“Issues have flowed from that decision, and since that decision was taken,” Martin said. “Many have not been thought through in respect of what was essentially a political decision, with huge economic and market implications.”

Russia’s foreign ministry was less generous, saying Britain had “never known such a disgrace of a prime minister”. The foreign ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, said Truss would be best remembered for her “catastrophic illiteracy”.

Continental media had few doubts about the cause of the prime minister’s woes. For Libération, there was “decidedly something rancid in the Tories’ tea”. Sonia Delesalle-Stolper said the British government and the Conservative party seemed “on a path to total self-destruction”.


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Rees-Mogg move to axe 2,400 laws is ‘anti-democratic’, say legal experts
Laws that could disappear include ban on animal testing, workers’ rights and environmental protections

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent
Mon 24 Oct 2022 08.02 BST
Leading lawyers have sounded the alarm over Jacob Rees-Mogg’s proposals for post-Brexit legislation that could result in 2,400 laws disappearing overnight – including a ban on animal testing for cosmetics, workers’ rights and environmental protections.

Lawyers including one former UK government legal official who designed the concept of EU-retained law for Theresa May branded the move as “anti-democratic” and “completely barking”.

Swathes of laws including equal pay for men and women, pension rights for same-sex married couples, food standards and aviation safety rules could accidentally disappear or be redrafted poorly, they warn.

The retained EU law (revocation and reform) bill will get its second reading on Tuesday. It was designed in such a way that 47 years of laws devised during EU membership will be switched off on 31 December 2023 under a so-called sunset clause.



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IIRC the UK legislation reads that no product may be "bought into circulation" without the new UKCA approval marking. I have not read anything about the handling of all the parts and products that are sitting in warehouses. Sometime back the discussion was that they would then only become scrap metal value. That products repaired using non-UKCA approved parts would become illegal to operate.
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UK farmers say exports will be hit by post-Brexit regulation
Industry groups urge agriculture minister to reconsider new rule on meat products

Peter Foster in London
OCTOBER 30 2022

The UK meat industry has warned that a new post-Brexit regulation being imposed on farmers by the British government will have a “devastating effect” on producers and their ability to export to the EU.

From December 13 the UK Department for Agriculture will require tens of thousands of farmers to obtain formal attestations from qualified vets about the health of their animals earmarked for slaughter and export.

The department’s new regulation is a big shift from an existing requirement for farmers to certify that vet visits have taken place, according to a letter sent by 14 industry lobby groups to the agriculture minister Mark Spencer, urging him to reconsider or delay the measure.

They said the regulation would have a devastating effect on farmers, auction markets and meat processors by preventing exports to the EU.




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From December 13 the UK Department for Agriculture will require tens of thousands of farmers to obtain formal attestations from qualified vets about the health of their animals earmarked for slaughter and export.

The department’s new regulation is a big shift from an existing requirement for farmers to certify that vet visits have taken place, according to a letter sent by 14 industry lobby groups to the agriculture minister Mark Spencer, urging him to reconsider or delay the measure.
I must confess some confusion about this. If they are already paying for a vet visit, why woudl the attestation cost more? Or is the fact that they only have to *certify* that a visit has taken place meant to be a sly way of saying "these MFers are lying when they say that so now they actually have to spend the money they never were?"
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Same thought. Perhaps I’m missing something, but it doesn’t seem too onerous to have the vet sign a form if they are there anyway.
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Rees-Mogg’s plans to axe all EU laws will cripple Whitehall, says leading Brexiter
MP Theresa Villiers says proposal to axe thousands of laws is unworkable and unnecessary

Helena Horton and Toby Helm
Sun 6 Nov 2022 07.00 GMT

One of the Tory party’s leading Brexit supporters has raised concerns about plans to scrap 2,400 EU laws by the end of next year – as fears grow that the policy will overwhelm the civil service and bring government to a virtual standstill.

Former environment secretary Theresa Villiers, who backed Brexit in 2016, told the Observer that the proposals would take up vast amounts of civil service time and would involve undoing legislation that, in many cases, was broadly popular and good for the country.

Other senior Tories are growing concerned that the EU retained law bill, championed by Jacob Rees-Mogg before Rishi Sunak sacked him on becoming prime minister, is in danger of becoming an ideological millstone.




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Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:47 am

I must confess some confusion about this. If they are already paying for a vet visit, why would the attestation cost more? Or is the fact that they only have to *certify* that a visit has taken place meant to be a sly way of saying "these MFers are lying when they say that so now they actually have to spend the money they never were?"
I never could find the exact reference about the vet attestation being required, although apparently it's necessary to use 'official' vets for export of meat animals (and there aren't enough of those to go around).

I did, however, pick up a bit of trivia yesterday, about how Brexit is affecting people in unanticipated ways--to wit, the annual Al Khamsa convention is taking place this weekend (online) and one of the Irish breeders mentioned that due to the Arabian horse registry of England being in charge of registering Arabians in Ireland, Greece, and Malta, that somehow her purebred Arabian would not be able to be registered as an Arabian, but would need to be registered, in Ireland, as an Irish pony!

However, one of the convention participants is German, and let her know that WAHO (World Arabian Horse Organization) knew about this issue and had come up with a solution.

I can't begin to imagine what a nightmare this must be for all the people who suddenly run up against these problems and don't know how to get around them.
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UK plan to scrap all EU laws suffers new setback
Discovery of 1,400 more pieces of legislation makes huge bureaucratic task even harder

George Parker in London
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A plan by ministers to review or repeal all EU laws on the UK statute book by the end of 2023 has suffered another setback after the discovery of 1,400 additional pieces of legislation.

Rishi Sunak has started backing away from his ambitious proposals to scrub Britain’s statute book of unwanted EU laws, by abandoning his promise to complete the exercise within 100 days.

Now ministers, in conjunction with the National Archives, have discovered the large bureaucratic task has got even bigger and that instead of 2,400 EU laws to review or repeal, officials may have to trawl through 3,800.

Grant Shapps, the new business secretary, is said by allies to be keen to slow down the review of EU laws after being warned that hundreds of extra staff across Whitehall would be needed to complete the task.

“We will slow things down to a sane pace,” said one ally of Shapps. The business department declined to say whether it was still wedded to completing the task by the end of 2023.

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the former business secretary, had promoted a retained EU law (revocation and reform) bill as a flagship piece of legislation to maximise what he said were the “opportunities of Brexit”.

Rees-Mogg’s legislation aims to complete the review of 2,400 pieces of retained EU law by the end of next year. Sunak, in his first bid for the Tory leadership this summer, claimed it could be completed within 100 days.

But Rees-Mogg’s allies said that last month it emerged that 1,400 pieces of EU law, much of it long forgotten, had been found by researchers at the National Archives. They have not been verified by the government.

Senior civil servants have warned that reviewing each piece of EU legislation to see if it is still needed in the UK — or can be improved — will be a huge task, often involving external legal advice and consultation with business groups.

Theresa Villiers, a pro-Brexit former Northern Ireland secretary, said the intention behind the Rees-Mogg bill was good but that it would be “very difficult” to complete the task by the end of next year.

“It doesn’t surprise me that more legislation has been found,” she added. “Inevitably when you have 50 years of regulation, it’s going to take time to carry out this exercise.”

However David Jones, a former Brexit minister, said he “absolutely” believed the exercise could be completed by the end of 2023 and that he would be “very unhappy” if there was a delay.




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‘Not the Brexit I wanted’: Next boss calls for more foreign workers in UK
Leave backer Lord Wolfson says UK must let in much-needed overseas workers to plug chronic labour shortages

Kalyeena Makortoff
Thu 10 Nov 2022 09.39 GMT

Simon Wolfson, the chief executive of the clothing and homeware retailer Next, has urged the government to make it easier to allow foreign workers into the UK and said this is “not the Brexit I wanted”.

The Conservative peer and Brexit supporter said the government was blocking much-needed workers from entering the UK, even though firms were desperate for labour.

“We have got people queueing up to come to this country to pick crops that are rotting in fields, to work in warehouses that otherwise wouldn’t be operable, and we’re not letting them in,” Lord Wolfson said in an interview with the BBC.

“In respect of immigration, it’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted,” he added.

Wolfson said it was still worth incentivising businesses to hire local workers in the UK, and said this could be achieved by making sure firms pay a 10% tax to the government on salaries of foreign hired labour.

“It would automatically mean that businesses never bought someone into the company from outside if they could find someone in the UK,” he said. “But if they genuinely can’t, they’ll pay the premium.




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RTH10260 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:44 pm
Simon Wolfson, the chief executive of the clothing and homeware retailer Next, has urged the government to make it easier to allow foreign workers into the UK and said this is “not the Brexit I wanted”.

The Conservative peer and Brexit supporter said the government was blocking much-needed workers from entering the UK, even though firms were desperate for labour.
So he and his colleagues were looking for the kind of Brexit that would shred EU human rights, labor, and related standards, but still allow them to import that now less-protected, low-wage labor if they were willing to pay a surcharge. Got it.
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Cheesemaker sells firm to overcome Brexit barriers after losing £600,000 in sales
Cheshire Cheese Company bought by Joseph Heler Cheese, which has maintained EU presence

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent
Tue 15 Nov 2022 05.00 GMT

A British cheesemaker has sold his business to a larger rival to regain access to customers in the European Union after Brexit left him with an estimated £600,000 black hole in lost EU sales.

Simon Spurrell, who made headlines when he highlighted prohibitive export costs after the UK’s exit from the single market, will remain managing director of the Macclesfield-based Cheshire Cheese Company and retains a stake in the business.

Its new owner, fellow family-run north-west England producer Joseph Heler Cheese, has maintained a presence in the EU as a result of its larger operations and distribution hub in the Netherlands, which Spurrell hopes will make supplying European customers viable again.

Spurrell said he was thrilled to be returning to the continent after an absence of two years but still cannot believe how the government wrecked small firms like his with their decision to go for a hard Brexit.

“The sad thing is that small businesses like ours cannot have access to the EU,” he said. “Selling the company is a great solution … it secures the future of the company with a historical cheesemaker.

“But I still feel very let down and bitterly disappointed by the fact I’ve had so many conversations with the Department for International Trade and government ministers and nothing happens.




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UK’s planned post-Brexit quality assurance mark delayed again
Unpopular scheme to replace EU’s CE certification scheme now due to start in 2025 after renewed industry pressure

Peter Foster in Brighton
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The UK government has bowed to renewed pressure from industry and announced another postponement to the introduction of a new post-Brexit “UKCA” product safety mark — the third delay in less than two years.

After Brexit, the UK government said it wanted to create a British rival to the EU’s “CE” quality mark which assures the safety of electronic, industrial and consumer goods, with an original implementation date of January 2022. The latest delay means the scheme will now come into force at the start of 2025.

Industry groups have repeatedly rejected the UKCA mark as burdensome, expensive and impractical. They welcomed the latest extension, but warned it was creating further “cliff edges” and uncertainty.

Stephen Phipson, the head of Make UK, the manufacturers’ lobby group, said the latest delays raised serious questions about the point of the UKCA mark, calling for the UK to agree a long-term mutual recognition agreement on industrial standards with the EU.




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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:03 am
Cheesemaker sells firm to overcome Brexit barriers after losing £600,000 in sales

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... 0-in-sales
Maybe this is just a me thing, but having searched on this guy's name, I find that in none of the interviews with him since last year -- since he became something of a minor industry celebrity over this -- has he *ever* mentioned how he voted on Brexit, and I find that curious.

ETA: At least that I've found, and I've searched the first 5 screens of hits against his name + Brexit. So if it's out there, it's been ... de-emphasized strongly, at a minimum
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