State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
The best thing would be for the "Trump" "brand" to become worthless. He always uses that as a main part of his "worth" when talking about how rich he is. It's true that brand name does have a value when you're doing financial statements (although how you'd monetize that is a mystery to me), but I gotta think his is taking a hit. Maybe it will hit its nadir before the election. Idk how people around the world feel...staying in a "Trump" branded hotel can't have the same cachet it once did. I'm sure oligarchs and mob folks don't care what name is slapped on the building of a property they use to park money.
Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain
State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
It IS largely worthless. The fact that he talks it up is meaningless. He would be loudly talking it up if bank managers were laughing in his ear 5 minutes before. He would still be boasting about how wealthy he is if he was on the street outside Marry Lardo with his luggage all around him, and his staff shouting at him that they haven't been paid in a month.
Just because he boasts about it does not mean there is any wealth there.
Just because he boasts about it does not mean there is any wealth there.
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I think that a trump-branded hotel screams “Park it here!”
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Can't we just rename it the Tish Mahal?Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:21 pmor Turnip Tower.Dave from down under wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:57 pm of course you would change the name to..
The Former Guy Tower
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LOVE IT!!!!!!
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I just can't quit twitter.
Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain
State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
to me it screams “Get your bedbugs here!”Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:23 am I think that a trump-branded hotel screams “Park it here!”
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In general, unless specified otherwise, court deadlines occurring on a non-work day (i.e., weekends and holidays) automatically are bumped to the next working day.Uninformed wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:10 am So as to not over-anticipate the outcome of the upcoming deadline for payment to pause enforcement action, can anyone confirm that the payment must be made by the end of today (Sunday 24th March) not by the end of (working?) day tomorrow?
So, for example, a court deadline for today would not kick in until COB tomorrow (Monday).
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Thanks Bob.
If you can't lie to yourself, who can you lie to?
State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
It's almost Monday!!! Everyone have their seatbelts at hand and ready to fasten for a wild ride?
State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
What? OH NO!!!
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State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
Here's some follow-up on this matter posted by Volkonski, an article in The Guardian. I've noticed that Trump is increasingly called "Idiot Trump" in news articles, a trend I'd like to see continue.Volkonski wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:12 am
Trump claims he has $500 million in cash, undercutting lawyers' claims on bond money
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna144614
Former President Donald Trump claimed early Friday morning that he has "almost" $500 million in cash, undercutting his lawyers' claims that he would not be able to comply with the $464 million judgment against him and his co-defendants in the civil fraud case brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James.
Trump claims to have ‘almost $500m in cash’ despite inability to pay bond
This is a fatal admission that devastates any attempt to get an appeals court to stay the seizing of his assets pending appeal. Unbelievably idiotic, and probably further evidence of dementia.Donald Trump claimed on Friday to have at his disposal “almost $500m in cash”, despite having complained about a $454m bond his lawyers say he cannot pay as he appeals a New York civil fraud judgment.
In an all-capitals, early morning post to his Truth Social platform, the former president said: “Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost $500m in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president.”
The judge in his New York fraud case knew this, Trump claimed, and therefore came up with a penalty which, with interest, amounts to around $454m.
Trump’s lawyers have said it is a “practical impossibility” for Trump to meet that bond by its 25 March deadline. In turn, the New York state attorney general, Letitia James, reportedly took steps towards seizing Trump-owned properties.
One legal analyst called Trump’s Friday morning rant “the dumbest thing he could possibly have done”.
“That is a direct admission by him that he has the money,” Nick Akerman, a former assistant US attorney in the southern district of New York who was a prosecutor during the Watergate scandal that brought down Richard Nixon, told CNN.
“Keep in mind, even with this operating money or cash that he supposedly has, if he doesn’t pony up and put up a bond, Letitia James is going to be able to go in and basically put restraining orders on all of his bank accounts. Everything that relates to him and all of that money is going to be tied up and frozen.
“So if he’s really got that money, he’s got to put it up.”
Somebody was lying. Tomorrow's events may reveal who.
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the claim is that the former guy has all that money for his campaign. May it mean that his PACs and SUPERPACs have that kind of money ready to spen on the campain for Teh Donald, but it is not in his name for the bond. Could he technically loan himself such moneys to pay the bond (and then lose it)?
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Regarding Trump’s claims that he has the cash, despite his lawyers previously saying he does not: Kirschner believes 1 – the lawyers are telling the truth; trump does not have the money. 2 – Trump is telling the truth; he does have the money. His lawyers are lying. (not likely). and 3– they’re both telling the truth. At the time his attorneys made the statement, that was the truth. But soon afterwards, somebody, perhaps Putin, perhaps Saudi Arabia, gave him the money. I guess we’ll learn tomorrow.
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Another possibility - they’re both telling the truth (sort of), because when trump says he “has” the money, he means he has access to PAC money for his campaign.
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State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
Another possibility: Turnip transferred every cent he and other people have into his personal account for 10 minutes, so he could make that statement and technically not lie.
Which wold be insane, but I repeat myself.
Which wold be insane, but I repeat myself.
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State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
Doesn't sound like he's coming up with the money today
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State of New York vs Trump, et al - the civil fraud case against the Trump Organization
He said in 2015/16 that he wouldn't owe anything to anyone because he's so rich he'd self-fund his campaign. I'm pretty sure he did not. Am I remembering correctly?
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Appeals court lets Trump off the hook: bond lowered to $175 million. (MSNBC)
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Relevant verbiage....
It is ordered that the motion is granted to the extent of staying enforcement of
those portions of the Judgment (1) ordering disgorgement to the Attorney General of
$464,576,230.62, conditioned on defendants-appellants posting, within ten (10) days of
the date of this order, an undertaking in the amount of $175 million dollars; (2)
permanently barring defendants Weisselberg and McConney from serving in the
financial control function of any New York corporation or similar business entity; (3)
barring defendants Donald J. Trump, Weisselberg and McConney from serving as an
officer or director of any New York corporation for three years; (4) barring defendant
Donald J. Trump and the corporate defendants from applying for loans from New York
financial institutions for three years; and (5) barring defendants Donald Trump, Jr. and
Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation in New
York for two years. The aforesaid stay is conditioned on defendants-appellants
perfecting the appeals for the September 2024 Term of this Court. The motion is
otherwise denied, including to the extent it seeks a stay of enforcement of portions of the
judgment (1) extending and enhancing the role of the Monitor and (2) directing the
installation of an Independent Director of Compliance.
It is ordered that the motion is granted to the extent of staying enforcement of
those portions of the Judgment (1) ordering disgorgement to the Attorney General of
$464,576,230.62, conditioned on defendants-appellants posting, within ten (10) days of
the date of this order, an undertaking in the amount of $175 million dollars; (2)
permanently barring defendants Weisselberg and McConney from serving in the
financial control function of any New York corporation or similar business entity; (3)
barring defendants Donald J. Trump, Weisselberg and McConney from serving as an
officer or director of any New York corporation for three years; (4) barring defendant
Donald J. Trump and the corporate defendants from applying for loans from New York
financial institutions for three years; and (5) barring defendants Donald Trump, Jr. and
Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation in New
York for two years. The aforesaid stay is conditioned on defendants-appellants
perfecting the appeals for the September 2024 Term of this Court. The motion is
otherwise denied, including to the extent it seeks a stay of enforcement of portions of the
judgment (1) extending and enhancing the role of the Monitor and (2) directing the
installation of an Independent Director of Compliance.