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Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:48 am Was that a boo-boo on Cannons part? Or deliberate? I’m SO confused.
Deliberate in the way that she is totally clueless. No idea what she’s doing. Incompetent and insane.
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I'm going to be charitable and assume that Judge I, Loose Cannon stuck those two provisions because she found the reasoning of the appeals court persuasive and voluntarily corrected her error.
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Wow, you're really generous. I think realist is right, she ain't rowin' with all her oars in the water. :crazy:
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realist wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:17 pm
Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:48 am Was that a boo-boo on Cannons part? Or deliberate? I’m SO confused.
Deliberate in the way that she is totally clueless. No idea what she’s doing. Incompetent and insane.
I just have been wondering about the clueless part, is this the first time something went to the appeal court in her short 18 months career as judge? Is she ignorant that it does not work like as with a teacher at school where you replace the bad part to get good notes? Eg that she doesn't recollect that the appeal court ruling just invalidates the paragraphs and she doesn't have to to anything further but mentally incorporate the ruling in the future of this proceedings? :cantlook:
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Gotta say, that’s what I was thinking. WK is writing with a wink.
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Foggy wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:43 am What Akiva is saying is, now Trump CAN'T appeal to the Supremes.
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New Turtle wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:03 pm Maybe she granted jurisdiction with her mind.
Trump told Hannity that he could declassify documents "just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it," last night. Hannity failed to ask:

"Well it's been reported that one of the documents contained nuclear secrets of one of America's allies. What ally was that, and what can you tell us about their nuclear secrets now that you declassified all that stuff? That's not secret any more, it's declassified, amirite? Was it Israel? Did you consult with anybody in Israel before you declassified all their nuclear secrets? Anything you declassified can be published in the failing NY Times now, amirite?"

Boy, Hannity missed an opportunity there.
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Is there a link to the loose cannons latest misfire?
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reporting about their projection that Dearie would be likely to side with them because of a narrow and specific issue in his decades-long career
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New Turtle wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:03 pm Maybe she granted jurisdiction with her mind.
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"He was stung badly by that. The people in the Justice Department lied to him."
"And he's a Republican! Of course he's going to do whatever my lawyers tell him to do, just like Judge Cannon!" :daydreaming:

But now, sadly, Judge Dearie is not really going to order the United States of America to return everything they RANSACKED from Trump's home during the BREAK-IN at Mierda Lardo, and he's not going to tell the FBI that they are really mean people who are just no damn good. He's not going to take off his shoes when he reads the stuff the FBI found in Trump’s bedroom! He's probably not going to return anything at all, and he's not going to prevent Trump or anybody else from being indicted on criminal charges, and he just wants to look through all Donald's stuff without giving it back, so what good is he now?

No good at all, that's who. Get rid of him. Out.




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Chilidog wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:36 pm Is there a link to the loose cannons latest misfire?
The new order, haven't read it yet.

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OK, not long, and it left her abuse of discretion intact.

What in the world? Did she not comprehend that the 11th Circuit said she had no jurisdiction? :confuzzled:
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Trump: There’s a lot of speculation because of the severity of the FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago, were they looking for the Hillary Clinton emails…
Hannity: Wait, you’re not saying you had it
Trump: No, they may have thought that it was in there
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This is the glorious thing about litigating your case on Fox News - you get to say anything you want, and nobody will call you on your bullshit, and millions of people see you and agree.

Yeah, the "raid" was so severe because they thought he had Hillary’s emails that he wishes he had, and they were desperate to prevent him from disclosing the emails that would put Hillary in prison that he would have published immediately if he had them.

Which is whack :crazy: but what are you gonna do?

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He took a WHOLE bunch of Adderall before that interview! Fast talking, the set of his mouth, his furrowed brow… he has many tells.

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Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:51 pm He took a WHOLE bunch of Adderall before that interview! Fast talking, the set of his mouth, his furrowed brow… he has many tells.

I’m not wrong.
Imma thinking Don Jr. is his hookup for the drugs.

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Put up or shut up. :boxing:
Brad Heath @bradheath wrote: The Mar-a-Lago special master is telling Trump's lawyers to say once and for all whether they really think the FBI planted evidence during its search, as the former president has publicly alleged.

Link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .106.0.pdf
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Kendra wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:21 pm https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1572790894834913280
Trump: There’s a lot of speculation because of the severity of the FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago, were they looking for the Hillary Clinton emails…
Hannity: Wait, you’re not saying you had it
Trump: No, they may have thought that it was in there
:o NARA is a leftist organization? And documents one gives them disappeear into nowhere? Never to be seen again? :cantlook: :brickwallsmall: :doh:


re looking for Hillarys emails:
who would believe that this old guy would have them and would be quiet about them, never to speak about them :brickwallsmall:
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Is there an outstanding appeal by the DOJ to remove Cannon from the case or did the DOJ get what they wanted and probably won't worry about the SM doing what the FBI has to do anyway, make sure no personal, client/attorney stuff has been taken>
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:13 pm Put up or shut up. :boxing:
Brad Heath @bradheath wrote: The Mar-a-Lago special master is telling Trump's lawyers to say once and for all whether they really think the FBI planted evidence during its search, as the former president has publicly alleged.

Link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .106.0.pdf
Holy smackdown Batman!

The way I read the events of the past couple of days, culminating in this latest missive from the special master is that this ploy has backfired in pretty much the most spectacular way possible. Rather than the delaying tactic that Trump sought, the classified documents are now being freely used by the DoJ and Trump has to justify EVERYTHING he wants to claim regarding the rest of the docs. Too. also, he has to pay for all of this mishegoss in a timely fashion, or else.

The record being created is both stunning and unprecedented with the wide array of unethical and criminal behavior that is being documented. One starts to feel like Trump’s last line of defense (which will be tested) is the belief that, even in DC, a jury cannot be empaneled in a criminal trial that doesn’t include at least one member that will refuse to convict Trump no matter what. If that turns out to be the case, and Trump is able to rally his base and win the 2024 election as a result, then, in my opinion, the rule of law will have well and truly been broken down and the Republic will have been lost. The Trumpist party will take control of the government and use its power to silence dissent and persecute its enemies and there will be no institution capable of resisting it.

We’re all playing for the highest stakes imaginable and Trump has gone all in. It’s time for everyone to decide what principles or interests they are willing to risk losing everything to defend or fold. Personally, I say given me accountability or give me death. It’s time to call the authoritarian bluff.
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