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US Senate to vote on Equal Rights Amendment, a century after introduction

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The U.S. Senate is set to vote on Thursday on a measure that could allow the Equal Rights Amendment to be added to the Constitution, though Republican opposition will likely doom the measure to failure.

Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer called the amendment, known as the ERA, crucial since the Supreme Court last year ended the national right to abortion, sparking a wave of new bans on the procedure in Republican-led states.

"Anyone who thinks the ERA isn't necessary at a time like this isn't paying attention to the terrible things happening in this country," Schumer said in a Senate speech on Tuesday. "We need the ERA more than ever, ever before."

It is all but certain to fail because it would require the support of nine Republicans to reach the 60-vote threshold to advance in the Senate where Democrats hold a narrow 51-49 majority.

Days after President Joe Biden launched his reelection bid, the vote highlights how women's rights will likely be an issue in the campaign. Biden voiced his support for the ERA last year.
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Texas House Votes to Remove Elected Prosecutors Who Won't Enforce Abortion Laws

Laura Bassett
Fri, April 28, 2023 at 1:05 AM GMT+2

Texas’s Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday that would allow locally-elected prosecutors to be removed from office if they refuse to enforce anti-abortion laws. The Texas Tribune reports that House Bill 17 “is a response to elected district and county attorneys in Texas’ large, left-leaning counties who have said they will not enforce the state’s abortion laws or pursue election fraud cases.”

“The purpose of this bill is to eliminate politics from prosecution,” State Rep. David Cook (R) said on the House floor Thursday.

Per the Tribune:

Elected prosecutors cannot be impeached by the Legislature or face recall elections. They can be removed only after the filing of a removal petition that accuses the district attorney of “incompetency, official misconduct or intoxication.” If they are found guilty by a jury, a district judge can order them removed from office.

The move comes as Republican state legislatures increasingly use authoritarian tactics to mute their opposition. In Montana, Republican lawmakers have silenced a Democratic trans legislator for the rest of the session because she spoke out against an anti-trans bill. In Nebraska, an attorney filed an ethics complaint against a Democratic lawmaker who filibustered an anti-trans bill, bogusly arguing that she stands to benefit from killing the bill because her son is trans. In Tennessee, Republicans voted to expel two Democratic lawmakers for joining in student protests for gun safety laws following a mass shooting at an elementary school.

Texas prosecutors have said that being pressured to enforce anti-abortion laws vacuums resources away from being able to investigate and prosecute things like mass shootings.

“We are very focused on holding accountable people who commit acts of violence in our community,” Travis County District Attorney José Garza told the Texas Tribune. “Pulling resources away from that to focus on this kind of case would be reckless and endanger the safety of our community.”




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Because of Florida abortion laws, she carried her baby to term knowing he would die

A Florida woman, unable to get an abortion in her state, carried to term a baby who had no kidneys.

Deborah Dorbert’s son Milo died in her arms on March 3, shortly after he was born, just as her doctors had predicted he would.

“He gasped for air a couple of times when I held him,” said Dorbert, 33. “I watched my child take his first breath, and I held him as he took his last one.”

She said her pregnancy was proceeding normally until November, when, at 24 weeks, an ultrasound showed that the fetus did not have kidneys and that she had hardly any amniotic fluid. Not only was the baby sure to die, her doctors told her, but the pregnancy put her at especially high risk of preeclampsia, a potentially deadly complication.

Her doctors told her it was too late to terminate the pregnancy in Florida, which bans nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. The only options were to go out of state to get an abortion or to carry the baby to full term, and Dorbert and her husband didn’t have the money to travel.

What followed was an agonizing 13 weeks of carrying a baby she knew would die and worrying about her own health. It left Dorbert with severe anxiety and depression for the first time in her life.
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I'm sure there is so much more of this going on that we know nothing about. Not everyone is ready to share this kind of thing, nor should they have to.
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Fuckers.
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So, apparently, the Montana Supreme Court is standing fast against Governor Greg Gianforte and his legislative ilk.

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I haven't read this yet. The title alone pisses me off. Of course it's a logical step in the "Power and Control" Political Playbook.

https://msmagazine.com/2023/05/10/texas ... tic-abuse/
Texas Case Shows How Abortion Bans Facilitate Domestic Abuse
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Conservative judges hear challenge to abortion pill access in controversial lawsuit
Appeals court hears case brought by anti-abortion groups calling on the FDA to suspend decades-old approval of mifepristone

Ramon Antonio Vargas in New Orleans
Wed 17 May 2023 06.00 BST

Three US appeals court judges who have previously favored abortion restrictions prepared to hear oral arguments on Wednesday on the future of the major abortion drug mifepristone.

The case – which has landed before judges Jennifer Walker Elrod, James Ho and Cory Wilson – essentially calls on them to rule on whether the federal government should suspend or scale back the federal Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) approval of mifepristone in 2000, along with later actions that made the pill more widely accessible.

Mifepristone has consistently been found to be safe and effective, and advocates argue that it is safer than the erectile dysfunction medication Viagra and low-level pain reliever Tylenol.

But an emboldened anti-abortion movement set its sights on mifepristone after the US supreme court’s conservative majority last year eliminated federal abortion rights that had been established by the Roe v Wade decision in 1973.

After a coalition of groups brought a lawsuit in November against the FDA’s approval of the drug, Texas-based federal judge Matthew Kacsmaryk in April issued a ruling suspending the FDA’s approval of mifepristone. Joe Biden’s administration appealed, sending it to the appellate court in New Orleans where Elrod, Ho and Wilson sit – and to the supreme court, which indefinitely blocked the suspension as the case proceeds.

The plaintiffs in the dispute are an alliance of physician groups who generally argue they have standing to bring the case because they have members in Texas and elsewhere in the US who have treated women and girls experiencing complications after taking mifepristone for abortions. The Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, the American Association of Pro Life OB-GYNs, the American College of Pediatricians and the Christian Medical & Dental Associations contend that the complications – bleeding and pain – are dangerous, and have trotted out unproven arguments that women who have abortions are prone to suicide and depression.



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Remember when Tricia cotham flipped?

My what timing

What got to her?

NC
ABORTION BAN


North Carolina Has a Brutal New Abortion Ban Thanks to One Woman's Betrayal

A former aide says Rep. Tricia Cotham was mad that Democrats and Planned Parenthood didn't support her enough considering her pro-choice credentials. So she became a Republican.
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It seems to me politicians should not be able to change their party affiliation after an election. She won handily over her republican opponent.
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AndyinPA wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:39 pm It seems to me politicians should not be able to change their party affiliation after an election. She won handily over her republican opponent.
I hope she loses handily the next time around.
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The Republicans won’t like her any better. :lol:
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Deborah Dorbert discovered she was pregnant in August. Her early appointments suggested the baby was thriving, and she looked forward to welcoming a fourth member to the family. It didn’t occur to her that fallout from the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn a half-century constitutional right to abortion would affect them.

A routine ultrasound halfway through her pregnancy changed all that.

Deborah and her husband, Lee, learned in late November that their baby had Potter syndrome, a rare and lethal condition that plunged them into an unsettled legal landscape.

The state’s ban on abortion after 15 weeks of gestation has an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities. But as long as their baby’s heart kept beating, the Dorberts say, doctors would not honor their request to terminate the pregnancy. The doctors would not say how they reached their decision, but the new law carries severe penalties, including prison time, for medical practitioners who run afoul of it. The hospital system declined to discuss the case.
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AndyinPA wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:44 pm https://wapo.st/41UYPVo
Deborah Dorbert discovered she was pregnant in August. Her early appointments suggested the baby was thriving, and she looked forward to welcoming a fourth member to the family. It didn’t occur to her that fallout from the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn a half-century constitutional right to abortion would affect them.

A routine ultrasound halfway through her pregnancy changed all that.

Deborah and her husband, Lee, learned in late November that their baby had Potter syndrome, a rare and lethal condition that plunged them into an unsettled legal landscape.

The state’s ban on abortion after 15 weeks of gestation has an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities. But as long as their baby’s heart kept beating, the Dorberts say, doctors would not honor their request to terminate the pregnancy. The doctors would not say how they reached their decision, but the new law carries severe penalties, including prison time, for medical practitioners who run afoul of it. The hospital system declined to discuss the case.
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10-year-old Ohio girl’s abortion prompts discipline hearing against Indiana doctor
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — An Indiana board is set to hear allegations Thursday that an Indianapolis doctor should face disciplinary action after she spoke publicly about providing an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from neighboring Ohio.

The Medical Licensing Board’s hearing comes after Indiana’s Republican attorney general accused Caitlin Bernard of violating state law by not reporting the girl’s child abuse to Indiana authorities. She’s also accused of breaking federal patient privacy laws by telling a newspaper reporter about the girl’s treatment.

Bernard and her attorneys maintain that the doctor followed Indiana’s child abuse reporting requirements as the girl’s rape was already being investigated by Ohio authorities. Bernard’s lawyers also say she didn’t release any identifying information about the girl that would break privacy laws.

The Indianapolis Star cited the girl’s case in a July 1 article that sparked a national political uproar in the weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last June, putting into effect an Ohio law that prohibited abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Some news outlets and Republican politicians falsely suggested Bernard fabricated the story until a 27-year-old man was charged with the rape in Columbus, Ohio.

Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita’s complaint asked the licensing board to impose “appropriate disciplinary action” but doesn’t specify a requested penalty.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... na-doctor/

How the fuck could anyone force a 10 year old child to carry a rapist's baby :crying:
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It was gawd's will, doncha know?
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Civil liberties groups got replies from 71 local governments that said they were sharing license plate data with anti-abortion states.

Civil liberties groups told police in 71 California communities Thursday they must stop sharing automated license plate information with law enforcement agencies in other states that could use the data to track people seeking or providing abortions.

Providing license plate data to out-of-state police agencies has been barred by law in California since 2016 and has become more hazardous since last June, when the Supreme Court repealed the constitutional right to abortion that it had declared in 1973, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the American Civil Liberties Union said in letters to the local governments. Eleven of the police agencies targeted by the groups are in the Bay Area — eight in Contra Costa County, two in Marin County and one, Gilroy, in Santa Clara County.

It was the latest in a series of actions by reproductive-rights supporters and state lawmakers to make California a haven for abortion-seekers in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling last June.

State laws enacted since the ruling provide abortion funding for women traveling to California for reproductive care and prohibit enforcement of subpoenas from other states seeking information on abortions in California. Another new law, AB1242 by Assembly Member Rebecca Bauer-Kahan, D-Orinda, prohibits law enforcement agencies in the state from providing information to an agency in another state about a legal abortion in California.

In Thursday’s letters, the advocacy groups said police in other states who use license plate data to find vehicles in California “may seek to use that information to monitor abortion clinics and closely track the movements of abortion seekers and providers. This threatens even those obtaining or providing abortions in California, since several anti-abortion states plan to criminalize and prosecute those who seek or assist in out-of-state abortions.”

“Sharing (automated license plate reader) data with law enforcement in states that criminalize abortion undermines California’s extensive efforts to protect reproductive health privacy,” said Jennifer Pinsof, a lawyer with the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/ar ... 119527.php
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Indiana disciplines doctor in 10-year-old rape victim’s abortion

By Kim Bellware and Dan Rosenzweig-Ziff
May 25, 2023 at 3:06 p.m. EDT

Indiana’s medical licensing board decided late Thursday night to discipline a doctor who made headlines last year for performing an abortion for a 10-year-old Ohio rape victim. The board gave the doctor a letter of reprimand and ordered her to pay a $3,000 fine for violating ethical standards and state laws by discussing the case with a reporter.

Indiana’s Republican Attorney General Todd Rokita for nearly a year pursued punishment for Caitlin Bernard, an OB/GYN and an assistant professor at the Indiana University School of Medicine who performed the abortion in June 2022, less than a week after Roe v. Wade was struck down, enacting trigger laws.

Bernard broke patient privacy laws by telling an Indianapolis Star reporter about the patient’s care, the board decided Thursday night following a roughly 14-hour hearing that ended shortly after 11:30 p.m. Bernard’s lawyers argued she properly reported the incident to an IU Health social worker and did not run afoul of privacy laws when she discussed the patient’s case in a general and de-identified manner that is typical for doctors.

Records obtained by The Washington Post last year show that Bernard reported the girl’s abortion to the relevant state agencies ahead of the legally mandated deadline, which the board agreed with Thursday night, clearing her of a charge related to that issue.

Attorneys for Bernard did not immediately make a statement following the board’s late-night decision. Rokita, meanwhile, issued a statement praising the board’s decision to discipline Bernard.

“Like we have said for a year, this case was about patient privacy and the trust between the doctor and patient that was broken,” he said.

Bernard’s lawyers refuted Rokita’s allegations as baseless and politically motivated. The seven-member board of governor appointees could, by a majority vote, have either taken no action against Bernard or imposed a range of disciplinary measures up to and including the immediate termination of Bernard’s medical license.



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I want to stress in the Indiana case that AFAIK, the doctor's license to practice is still intact. Not that it makes the situation okay, but makes it survivable.
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AFAIK, she never used the patient's name.
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A judge halts South Carolina's new abortion law pending state Supreme Court review

May 26, 20235:27 PM ET
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COLUMBIA, S.C. — A judge put South Carolina's new law banning most abortions around six weeks of pregnancy on hold Friday until the state Supreme Court can review the measure, giving providers a temporary reprieve in a region that has enacted strict limits on the procedure.

Judge Clifton Newman's ruling that put the state's abortion law back at roughly 20 weeks came about 24 hours after Gov. Henry McMaster signed the bill into law without any notice, which had left dozens of people seeking abortions in limbo and created the potential for a legal abortion becoming illegal as a doctor performed it.

"It's extraordinarily difficult not only for the women themselves, but for their doctors — not just the doctors at Planned Parenthood — but hospitals all across the state who need to understand what to do in an emergency," said Vicki Ringer, a spokesperson for Planned Parenthood in South Carolina.

The developments in South Carolina are a microcosm of what has played out across the country since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade a year ago, allowing states to decide their abortion laws and leaving patients scrambling to find care wherever they can in situations where weeks or even days can make a huge difference.

The South Carolina measure joins stiff limitations pending in North Carolina and Florida, states that had been holdouts in the South providing wider access to the procedure, threatening to further delay abortions as appointments pile up in the region.



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Judge Newman was the presiding judge in the Alex Murdaugh case. I read an interview taken of him when he earned an award recently. He explained he never took notes in law school. He needed all of his sensed to absorb the information. He didn’t let the jury takes notes during the trial.
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Tennessee Woman Denied Abortion for Ectopic Pregnancy Was Left Infertile

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Wed, May 31, 2023 at 5:50 PM GMT+2

A Tennessee woman who was denied an emergency abortion for her life-threatening ectopic pregnancy ultimately became infertile and was forced to have an emergency hysterectomy to save her life, ABC reported on Wednesday. The woman, Mayron Hollis, gave birth prematurely through a cesarean delivery, but for the last several months now, her infant has been in and out of the hospital as Hollis’ staggering medical bills continue to pile up.

Last summer, Hollis and her husband learned she was pregnant shortly after she’d just given birth to their first child in February 2022. The pregnancy concerned doctors, as she’d had a cesarean delivery and become pregnant again in a short amount of time, increasing the risk of a cesarean scar pregnancy—a type of ectopic pregnancy in which the embryo implants in the cesarean scar from a previous C-section.

By August, Hollis learned she did have a cesarean scar pregnancy, that her pregnancy was already bulging out of her uterus, and that she had a placenta accreta—a life-threatening pregnancy complication that occurs when the placenta grows too deeply inside the uterine wall, and part or all of the placenta remains attached to the uterine wall even during delivery. According to the Mayo Clinic, the condition can result in severe blood loss after delivery as well as infertility, as there’s only a narrow window for pregnancies with placenta accreta to be terminated without requiring a hysterectomy.

It was a crushing diagnosis for Hollis and her husband, who had wanted to have another child, prompting them to take time to determine their next step. By the time the couple determined that the risk to Hollis’ life was too significant, Tennessee’s trigger abortion ban had taken effect after the fall of Roe v. Wade last summer. Hollis would need a complex procedure requiring multiple physicians from varying specialties to terminate her placenta accreta without removing her uterus. But as a result of the state’s abortion laws, which at the time featured no exceptions, not enough physicians were willing to provide the care Hollis needed, fearing criminalization. (ABC notes that at the time, an exception to save the life of the pregnant person or prevent permanent bodily injury “only [came] into play when a physician is defending themselves in court,” after they’ve already been charged with a felony for providing abortion care.)

Doctors recommended that Hollis travel to Pittsburgh to get the procedure she needed, but she wasn’t able to, citing her husband’s and her demanding work schedules and inability to afford to take time off. Ultimately, because of Tennessee’s laws, Hollis learned she simply had to continue with her pregnancy, as it didn’t pose an immediate threat to her life. “Because of everything that was going on, they didn’t know what was the right thing to do was. So the only way to save me was for something bad to happen to me,” Hollis told ABC.

As Hollis’ pregnancy progressed, it eventually attached to her bladder, and her accreta progressed to placenta percreta, growing beyond her uterine wall and attaching to surrounding organs, creating the risk that her uterus could rupture. By December, around the 25th week of Hollis’ pregnancy, she experienced severe bleeding and was hospitalized for four days before being released. Hollis told ABC that some doctors she’d spoken to feared “they were gonna have to reconstruct my bladder.” She explained, “They didn’t know if it was gonna touch any other organs—if they could even stop the bleeding if I did start to hemorrhage.”




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:torches:

Don't know what to say. Cruelty is the point here.
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We can only hope. :pray:

A new poll shows how abortion could be a potent issue for Dems in 2024
A surge in support for abortion rights could spell trouble for the GOP.


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... ce=twitter
A major new poll shows a significant long-term surge in support for abortion rights across America, with strong majorities locking into place in key battleground states. As the public anxiously awaits a ruling from a federal judge who could ban the abortion pill mifepristone nationwide, it’s a reminder that the fight to win back abortion rights could be a powerful tool to mobilize a blue wave in the 2024 presidential election.

According to the Public Religion Research Institute poll, which surveyed over 20,000 people in all 50 states last year, 64% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases. That’s nearly 10 percentage points higher than it was in 2010. And the percentage of people who said abortion should be illegal in all cases more than halved, from 15% in 2010 to 7% in 2020. The polling data shows that a bigger shift in favor of abortion rights started emerging in 2020, a couple of years before Roe v. Wade was overturned last year.

My NBC News colleagues who write the “First Read” newsletter dug up some even more politically potent data points from the poll:

"Majorities of residents in 43 states and D.C. think abortion should be legal.

That includes the presidential battlegrounds of Arizona (where 62% say it should be legal in all or most cases), Georgia (57%), Michigan (66%), Nevada (80%), Pennsylvania (61%) and Wisconsin (64%).

It also includes the key 2024 Senate states of Montana (64%), Ohio (66%) and West Virginia (57%)."

In other words, in key contests for control of the Senate and the White House, there is widespread support for abortion rights. Republicans looking over these stats should be nervous about their 2024 prospects in these conditions. After all, look what happened in 2022.
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