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"People make mistakes," says Queen, a Memphis hairstylist whose clients often confide those mistakes in her.

She's earned their trust, she says, because she's forthcoming about her own mistakes. That includes an accidental pregnancy decades ago at age 18, which she terminated when abortion was legal in all 50 states.

Today, Queen says distance has become the biggest hurdle to getting the procedure in the southern United States. Hundreds of miles and multiple state lines can separate women from providers, which is why she's an enthusiastic proponent of a new abortion-rights billboard campaign along one stretch of rural Interstate 55 running across eastern Arkansas from Memphis, Tenn., to Southern Illinois.

"Yes!" she shouts when she sees the first billboard, which reads "GOD'S PLAN INCLUDES ABORTION."
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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower

Exclusive: Ashley Caswell, one of a growing number of jailed pregnant women in Etowah county, is suing officials after she was denied care
Sam Levin in Los Angeles

In March 2021, sheriffs in Etowah county, Alabama, arrested Ashley Caswell on accusations that she’d tested positive for methamphetamine while pregnant and was “endangering” her fetus.

Caswell, who was two months pregnant at the time, became one of a growing number of women imprisoned in the county in the name of protecting their “unborn children”.

But over the next seven months of incarceration for “chemical endangerment” in the Etowah county detention center (ECDC), Caswell was denied regular access to prenatal visits, even as officials were aware her pregnancy was high-risk due to her hypertension and abnormal pap smears, according to a lawsuit filed on Friday against the county and the sheriff’s department. She was also denied her prescribed psychiatric medication and slept on a thin mat on the concrete floor of the detention center for her entire pregnancy.

In October, when her water broke and she pleaded to be taken to a hospital, her lawyer says, officials told her to “sleep it off” and “wait until Monday” to deliver – two days away.

During nearly 12 hours of labor, staff gave her only Tylenol for her pain, the suit says, allegedly telling her to “stop screaming”, to “deal with the pain” and that she was “not in full labor”. Caswell lost amniotic fluid and blood and was alone and standing up in a jail shower when she ultimately delivered her child, according to the complaint and her medical records. She nearly bled to death, her lawyers say.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... il-lawsuit

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Fuck those motherfuckers. We are NOT soda can machines that drop products on command. We bleed in childbirth, we suffer, we sometimes die, but she was supposed to "hold it in" for two days. So much for "keeping the fetus safe."

Burn those motherfuckers.
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I often wonder how migrants in s-hole states like Alabama or Arkansas feel when they realize their new home resembles a third-world state like the ones from which they fled?
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I just finished reading the article from The Guardian. It's one of the most appalling things I've ever read. :mad:
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Well, that was gripping. Thanks for that. I will forward it to family members.
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https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... 158c86fb29
WASHINGTON (AP) — The most-watched races in Tuesday’s off-year general election have all been dominated by the ongoing debate over abortion rights.

From a reelection bid for governor in Kentucky to a statewide ballot measure in Ohio to state legislative elections in Virginia, access to abortion has been a frequent topic in campaign debates and advertising, as it has since the U.S. Supreme Court issued its decision in June last year overturning Roe vs. Wade.

Here’s a look at three major races and how abortion has shaped each contest.
Briefly, Kentucky, Ohio, Virginia. Also, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, Rhode Island, and some local offices around the country.
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15 days gestational is likely before many women have...conceived.
New Hampshire Republicans propose '15-day' abortion ban
At 15 days gestational age, pregnancy has most likely not yet medically occurred.

Four Republican legislators in New Hampshire will introduce a bill that would ban abortion at “15 days" gestational age, according to a copy of the bill they prefiled.

The bill, which is unlikely to pass, amounts to an outright abortion ban. Gestational age is calculated from the first day of the woman’s period; at 15 days gestational age, a fertilized egg — if it exists yet — has most likely not implanted in the uterine wall. Implantation is the point when pregnancy begins, according to the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

Doctors often estimate that women ovulate around two weeks after their period begins — at about 14 days gestational age — and fertilization is thought to occur shortly afterward, though these times vary. A fertilized egg is nonviable until it implants on the uterine wall, which is thought to typically occur a week or more after fertilization.

The bill is the latest in a string of abortion restrictions Republicans have pursued since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to an abortion last year. More than a dozen states have banned abortion completely or do not have facilities where people can obtain an abortion, NBC News reported this year.
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I hate it when stupid people are in power.
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Victory, in Texas no less!
Texas Judge Grants Woman’s Request for Abortion
A state court judge said a woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition could legally obtain an abortion despite the state’s bans.

A Texas judge on Thursday granted a request to allow an abortion despite the state’s strict bans, in the case of a pregnant woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition.

The judge, Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County district court, sided with the woman, Kate Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, issuing a temporary restraining order to permit her doctor to perform an abortion without facing civil or criminal penalties under the state law. The judge, a Democrat, agreed with Ms. Cox’s lawyers that the procedure was necessary to protect Ms. Cox from a potentially dangerous birth, and to preserve her future fertility.

The ruling applied only to Ms. Cox, whose case was believed to be among the first attempts to seek a court-approved abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year and allowed states to enact their own abortion restrictions.

“The idea that Ms. Cox wants desperately to be pregnant, and this law might actually cause her to lose that ability, is shocking, and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” the judge said at the conclusion of a roughly 30-minute video hearing. “So I will be signing the order, and it will be processed and sent out today.”

Ms. Cox’s fetus was found to have trisomy 18, a genetic condition that in all but very rare cases leads to miscarriage or stillbirth, or to the infant’s death within the first year. Her lawyers said she had visited the emergency room four times because of pain and discharge — including once after her suit was filed on Tuesday — but that doctors had told her that under Texas law, she had to continue her pregnancy.

Ms. Cox, 31, could be seen wiping away tears from her eyes as she watched the judge issue the decision in the video proceeding with her husband, Justin. She said in an interview on Tuesday that she and her husband, who live in the Dallas area and have two young children, hoped for a big family and never planned on having an abortion.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/us/t ... ption.html
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:00 pm Victory, in Texas no less!
Texas Judge Grants Woman’s Request for Abortion
A state court judge said a woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition could legally obtain an abortion despite the state’s bans.

A Texas judge on Thursday granted a request to allow an abortion despite the state’s strict bans, in the case of a pregnant woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition.

The judge, Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County district court, sided with the woman, Kate Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, issuing a temporary restraining order to permit her doctor to perform an abortion without facing civil or criminal penalties under the state law. The judge, a Democrat, agreed with Ms. Cox’s lawyers that the procedure was necessary to protect Ms. Cox from a potentially dangerous birth, and to preserve her future fertility.

The ruling applied only to Ms. Cox, whose case was believed to be among the first attempts to seek a court-approved abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year and allowed states to enact their own abortion restrictions.

“The idea that Ms. Cox wants desperately to be pregnant, and this law might actually cause her to lose that ability, is shocking, and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” the judge said at the conclusion of a roughly 30-minute video hearing. “So I will be signing the order, and it will be processed and sent out today.”

Ms. Cox’s fetus was found to have trisomy 18, a genetic condition that in all but very rare cases leads to miscarriage or stillbirth, or to the infant’s death within the first year. Her lawyers said she had visited the emergency room four times because of pain and discharge — including once after her suit was filed on Tuesday — but that doctors had told her that under Texas law, she had to continue her pregnancy.

Ms. Cox, 31, could be seen wiping away tears from her eyes as she watched the judge issue the decision in the video proceeding with her husband, Justin. She said in an interview on Tuesday that she and her husband, who live in the Dallas area and have two young children, hoped for a big family and never planned on having an abortion.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/us/t ... ption.html
Cruelty is the point. But you can bet your mortgage that any Texas politician/Judge/GOP donor who impregnates their side girlfriend can get all the abortions they want.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... VANp8brvYA
More matricide in Texas. Ken Paxton swoops in to forbid abortion, threatening the woman, her doctor, and the judge.
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SuzieC wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:52 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... VANp8brvYA
More matricide in Texas. Ken Paxton swoops in to forbid abortion, threatening the woman, her doctor, and the judge.
:nope: I'm no scab, I'm not crossing that picket line! Will have to read it tomorrow.
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SuzieC wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:52 pm https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... VANp8brvYA
More matricide in Texas. Ken Paxton swoops in to forbid abortion, threatening the woman, her doctor, and the judge.
I'd heard this was the case but I can't see how he'd have a leg to stand on. What am I missing? Or is he just making verbal fart noises in the hopes of intimidating the medical staff?
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Oh, Paxton's lying out his ass. Pure intimidation.
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What happens if she quietly flies/drives to New Mexico and gets the procedure? She seems to have the means, which a lot of women don't. I realize this wouldn't be as easy to do now with all the coverage.
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She's already had to go to the ER four times, it's risky to make the trip.
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:05 pm She's already had to go to the ER four times, it's risky to make the trip.
Thanks. I don't know how I missed that. Maybe because I'm absolutely infuriated over this.
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No worries, I've dug into it a bit more than is necessarily linked on Fogbow
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Paxton looks determined to make this woman suffer, and possibly kill her. Betcha he'd make his mistress get an abortion if knocked her up.
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Oh, it's even worse than that. He is determined to instill fear in all doctors and hospitals if they even think of performing an abortion if a pregnant person isn't actively dying. This woman is merely the means to that end.
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There's a special place in hell just for Ken Paxton.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:40 pm There's a special place in hell just for Ken Paxton.
Agreed.
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It's all about how cruel you can get.
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